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I am so loving confused by that mirror, was it a stud issue?
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quote:My amazing boyfriend helping me hang a shower rod. I couldn't find an l-shaped rod I liked so we ran a 2x4 along the ceiling, and that's what the rod goes to. This was after he helped me texturize and repaint the bathroom. He's the best ???? http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zenna-Home-Rustproof-66-in-Aluminum-L-Shaped-Shower-Rod-in-White-for-Corner-Tubs-33941WW/205602187 ?
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Jan 10, 2017 21:59
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I didn't see any sort of vapor barrier, just cement board with tile adhered directly to it. And an old section of roof on the other side of that uninsulated wall. No idea what that's going to do. The tilework is obviously bad, they didn't use any sort of spacers and all of the flat tiled surfaces are uneven to boot. It's going to crack easily and moisture will get through the cracks. Obviously there's not enough room adjacent the bathtub. There's no shower curtain at the end of the tub. The poster claims no water gets that far, which is bullshit of course. I didn't see any sort of vent, and there's also no window, which makes it not up to code in the US. There's going to be severe moisture problems in that room, maybe mold issues, sooner rather than later. No idea if the tub is properly supported. Entirely possible that, when full, there's too much weight for whatever is under it. They're definitely on a second or higher story since the old closed-in roof is adjacent to the bathroom, so there's lots of room to fall down! ...I actually don't mind the mud-based flower sculpture thing. It's decorative. Probably won't last, but who knows. It's the least of the problems really.
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Jan 10, 2017 22:00
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I have a flower thing like that in my 70s house but it's just part of the awful wallpaper
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Jan 10, 2017 22:04
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Holy Jesus that tiling. It looks like someone built a wall lengthwise through a regular bathroom.
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Jan 10, 2017 22:05
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Should have built the room out of cinder blocks
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Jan 10, 2017 22:07
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I can't pick out my favorite part of the whole mess, but one of the candidates is that it took 6 months to do that stupid garbage bathroom
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Jan 10, 2017 22:07
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moist turtleneck posted:http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zenna-Home-Rustproof-66-in-Aluminum-L-Shaped-Shower-Rod-in-White-for-Corner-Tubs-33941WW/205602187 Even if this product didn’t exist, bending a tube isn’t rocket science.
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Jan 10, 2017 22:08
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Jan 10, 2017 22:08
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What that guy needs is professional building materials before making stalls in his bedroom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTZemp8Yoaw
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Jan 10, 2017 22:19
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Gegil posted:What that guy needs is professional building materials before making stalls in his bedroom. Hahaha, per the youtube comments they used 600 blocks. A 26 pack is $154. You're looking at $3,600 or more in construction legos there. Even slumlords subdividing places illegally don't spend that much, and their results actually look better.
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Jan 10, 2017 22:53
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canyoneer posted:That's electrical planning by grover Y'know, I installed two outlets within 4' of each other into my workshop and briefly thought of Grover. But this is a workshop, dammit, there are valid safety concerns to having cords strung across gaps or running along my benchtop. Plus I don't really care about the aesthetic implications of having outlets everywhere. (Also, it wasn't intentional, exactly, I just put outlets on adjacent walls near the corner and they ended up being close together)
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Jan 10, 2017 22:59
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Lots of outlets is the one thing I can’t fault Grover for.
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canyoneer posted:Hahaha, per the youtube comments they used 600 blocks. It does have the upside of not violating your lease if you're a renter. I'm sure there are better, cheaper options, however.
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Jan 10, 2017 23:12
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Synthbuttrange posted:
3/4" gaps are no problem for grout. Just backfill the space with some old newspapers and grout right over it.
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Jan 10, 2017 23:44
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canyoneer posted:Hahaha, per the youtube comments they used 600 blocks. I'm the seductive swoosh at 0:32
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knowonecanknow posted:Grover? The Abode That Shall Not Be Named
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Jan 11, 2017 00:19
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What's the minimum clearance in front of a bathtub again?
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kid sinister posted:What's the minimum clearance in front of a bathtub again? At least three insulated-stair-step widths. Or 4 inches, assuming you can sign off on it yourself by being a Professional Engineer.
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Jan 11, 2017 00:37
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That's great. Were there any pictures of all the outlets?
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Jan 11, 2017 00:57
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knowonecanknow posted:That's great. Were there any pictures of all the outlets? Here is a general galery, but you can't see the outlets due to furniture: http://imgur.com/gallery/tI8ys  Here you can see he has at least three outlets above the kitchen cabinets. I have 3 outlets in my whole kitchen, and none of them are above the top cupboards.
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Doesn't look that bad to me. Did he have his own thread buried somewhere in archived? The  cracks me up now.
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He couldnt get any electricians to sign off on his work so he went to get himself certified to sign his own lovely work off!
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As far as I can tell, code does not limit how many outlets you can have on one circuit to prevent idiots from plugging stuff into all the outlets at once and overloading the circuit. Circuit design is supposed to take into account things like potential voltage drop, but there's no hard rule about numbers of receptacles exactly. Code actually requires a certain number of outlets per room, because you're not supposed to have in most room types any spot on a wall that is more than six feet from an outlet. That means one outlet per 12 feet of wall (if you put it exactly in the middle). I think this requirement is to reduce the amount of cords running everywhere, which are tripping hazards in addition to fire hazards. Code also requires a certain number of independent circuits in kitchens, because there are multiple appliances that are supposed to have dedicated circuits. From a random website citing 2010 code: quote:In the kitchen and eating areas every counter space wider than 12 inches must have a GFI protected plug, in general all kitchen counter top plugs should be GFI protected. Countertop receptacles shall be installed so that no point along the wall is more than 24" measured horizontally from a receptacle outlet in that space. Peninsular bars and islands 12" or wider shall have at least one receptacle. Exception: Tennessee Code in dwelling unit’s section states, “The installation of receptacles for island counter spaces and peninsular counter spaces below the countertop shall be optional. So you need at least two circuits; but if you have built-in appliances like a dishwasher or disposal, that takes at least a third. Lighting would not be on any of those circuits, so your kitchen lights should be on a third or fourth circuit. And you are supposed to have a lot of outlets along the countertops, with no maximum, although the minimum on a long counter would be one in the center of every four-foot section. Three or even four on a long counter is totally fine and actually quite useful to have a bunch of stuff plugged in, like a coffee maker, microwave oven, toaster, waffle iron, etc. Groverhaus was dumb and bad in a lot of ways, but having a lot of outlets wasn't really one of them. At least, it wasn't against code. National code. I have no idea what his local code might have been, and he might have violated local electrical codes for all I know.
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Leperflesh posted:I didn't see any sort of vapor barrier, just cement board with tile adhered directly to it. And an old section of roof on the other side of that uninsulated wall. No idea what that's going to do. I think that was my favorite part. Shove a bunch of insulation under the tub, but don't bother to put any in the wall leading to the roof.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Here you can see he has at least three outlets above the kitchen cabinets. I have 3 outlets in my whole kitchen, and none of them are above the top cupboards. That actually used to be a thing in kitchens in the 1950s-70s. There would be a single recessed outlet mounted in the soffit above the kitchen cabinets. You win a cookie if you can figure out what it was for.
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kid sinister posted:That actually used to be a thing in kitchens. There would be a single recessed outlet mounted in the soffit above the kitchen cabinets. You win a cookie if you can figure out what it was for. Clock?
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kid sinister posted:That actually used to be a thing in kitchens in the 1950s-70s. There would be a single recessed outlet mounted in the soffit above the kitchen cabinets. You win a cookie if you can figure out what it was for. Christmas lights?
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devicenull posted:Clock? Bingo! Plug in clocks fell out of favor once alkaline batteries came on the market and could hold over 10 times as much power as the older zinc-carbon batteries, and so did their specialized outlets. vvv that too kid sinister fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Jan 11, 2017 |
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kid sinister posted:Bingo! Plug in clocks fell out of favor once alkaline batteries came on the market and could hold over 10 times as much power as the older zinc-carbon batteries, and so did their specialized outlets. More importantly, quartz oscillators. Even if you had batteries with infinite energy, counting mains cycles is by far the most attractive timekeeping method before the quartz revolution, so they would have plugged in regardless. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Jan 11, 2017 |
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Leperflesh posted:As far as I can tell, code does not limit how many outlets you can have on one circuit to prevent idiots from plugging stuff into all the outlets at once and overloading the circuit. Circuit design is supposed to take into account things like potential voltage drop, but there's no hard rule about numbers of receptacles exactly. I haven't looked at the actual code, but I was doing some research on this awhile back and found a rule of thumb of a) counting each outlet as a 1.5A draw, and b) stopping when you'd hit 80% of the capacity of the circuit. So a 20A circuit could have at most 10 outlets on it (10 * 1.5 = 15, less than .8 * 20).
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Not bad as a rule of thumb, and I've seen others like that, but not a matter of code where you'd fail inspection because you had 12 outlets on one branch or something. You can overload a circuit with a single outlet if you plug in enough draw to it.
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I willfully added outlets above my kitchen cabinets at my last house, which was built in '06. But, I tied them into the switch for the light over the sink and put in under-cabinet lighting, and made the outlets half-switched, and didn't install them every 4.5" or whatever like Groverhaus. Instead, I had just one over each block of cabinets, and had them down low so they aren't visible at all unless you're tall or go looking for them. It worked out fantastically well and said lighting was a major attractive feature for the eventual buyers. A+ would install outlets over cabinets again. But how many do you fuckin' need, for real, sheesh.
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Oh man, there are people with real knowledge ripping her apart in the Reddit thread and then the rest of the comments are just "man you guys are so negative" Also she said she plans on tearing it down in 5 years so she doesn't care if it falls apart. quote:[–]Siray 273 points 10 hours ago* quote:[–]Thecardinal74 70 points 10 hours ago https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY/comments/5n45po/i_remodeled_my_tiny_bathroom_and_its_now_my/
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canyoneer posted:Center the mirror over the sink? Naah, let's put it centered between the sink and toilet. Literally form over functionality.
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Looking for education here, not vindication - When people are criticizing the lack of moisture barrier in that bath, are we talking about vapor barrier on the exterior wall, or a product like Redgard on every wall of the shower? Because while redgard certainly isn't a bad idea, it doesn't strike me as like, a disaster not to use. I've demolished more bathrooms in my life than I can count, and have literally never seen Redgard in the wild.
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