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Gonkish posted:Do we have any info on the release dates/prices on ASUS' Z270 ITX boards? I'm intrigued by the twin m.2 slots on the Strix Z270i, primarily for future expansion if needed. I'm wondering if that trickles down to the less "bling" boards or not. I somehow doubt Asus will be the only company to put out a dual m.2 mITX motherboard. Just sit tight, I'm sure something cheaper will show up.
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What do we even need dual M.2 for again? Samguns 960s are out in 1 and 2 TB which is plenty, Raid 0 is not going to made a perceivable speed difference whatsoever, Raid 1 is kind of pointless because these drives don't exactly fail on a regular basis, I dunno.
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Zero VGS posted:What do we even need dual M.2 for again? Samguns 960s are out in 1 and 2 TB which is plenty, Raid 0 is not going to made a perceivable speed difference whatsoever, Raid 1 is kind of pointless because these drives don't exactly fail on a regular basis, I dunno. Buy and install a drive you can afford now. In a couple years, when $∕bit plummets, install another drive in the second slot.
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Zero VGS posted:What do we even need dual M.2 for again? Samguns 960s are out in 1 and 2 TB which is plenty, Raid 0 is not going to made a perceivable speed difference whatsoever, Raid 1 is kind of pointless because these drives don't exactly fail on a regular basis, I dunno. The same reason we need >1 SATA port
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Platystemon posted:Buy and install a drive you can afford now. Or clone the original drive on to the new drive and sell the old drive... I guess two slots is better than one but it hardly seems like a killer feature. edit: by the way, I have a m.2 960 Evo 1TB, it is really loving good and comes with Watch___Doge2 Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jan 10, 2017 |
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Zero VGS posted:What do we even need dual M.2 for again? Samguns 960s are out in 1 and 2 TB which is plenty, Raid 0 is not going to made a perceivable speed difference whatsoever, Raid 1 is kind of pointless because these drives don't exactly fail on a regular basis, I dunno. It's not a requirement by any means, but pretty much this: Platystemon posted:Buy and install a drive you can afford now. It's mostly just a convenience thing. If the price is too high then I won't lose any sleep over it, but it's interesting regardless.
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Zero VGS posted:What do we even need dual M.2 for again? Samguns 960s are out in 1 and 2 TB which is plenty, Raid 0 is not going to made a perceivable speed difference whatsoever, Raid 1 is kind of pointless because these drives don't exactly fail on a regular basis, I dunno. Games are getting so big you need 512gb minimum these days, if not 1TB. The second m.2 would be good for a storage SSD, so you can run an extremely clean SFF PC. Currently I have a 1TB m.2 850 evo with a SATA adaptor and an old 840 evo 1TB. Just thinking about what I'd want in the future.
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VulgarandStupid posted:I somehow doubt Asus will be the only company to put out a dual m.2 mITX motherboard. Just sit tight, I'm sure something cheaper will show up. But will i be able to rice the poo poo out of whatever someone else brings out? If my thermaltake core v1 isn't glowing like the tesseract then I don't really see the point
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Zero VGS posted:What do we even need dual M.2 for again? Samguns 960s are out in 1 and 2 TB which is plenty, Raid 0 is not going to made a perceivable speed difference whatsoever, Raid 1 is kind of pointless because these drives don't exactly fail on a regular basis, I dunno. Two m.2 slots opens up the possibility of using a NVMe NAND SSD for storage and a smaller Optane SSD as a cache drive.
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Salted_Pork posted:But will i be able to rice the poo poo out of whatever someone else brings out? If my thermaltake core v1 isn't glowing like the tesseract then I don't really see the point If the gods themselves aren't fighting over possession of my rig then I have dishonored my ancestors.
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Two M.2 slots means you can put two M.2 drives in your rig.  Seriously though, anything that means less cables is good.
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The idea of having a tiny computer with a buttload of fast storage in it is just intriguing to me.
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I don't see why we can't just have a whole bunch of M.2 slots on the back of the board. There's also a DIMM > M.2 adapter in one of the CES vids, I think. Strange days!
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well why not posted:I don't see why we can't just have a whole bunch of M.2 slots on the back of the board. There's also a DIMM > M.2 adapter in one of the CES vids, I think. Strange days! That's not really a DIMM>M2 adapter, ASUS just wired up a bunch of PCI-E lanes to a repurposed DIMM socket on one of their motherboards and included an adapter to break it out to M2. It wouldn't work in any other board.
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I'm interested in multiple m.2 slots for the sake of dual booting different OSes without having to play as much in grub or parted. I'm willing to pay money for convenience even though I'm a cheap bastard because not doing menial labor has a price for me. Oh, and from a reliability perspective dual boot drive options is handy for certain recovery scenarios. But I think in consumer sector most will use dual m.2 for RAID0 shenanigans.
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The Sentry indiegogo is now live. The price is $195 plus $27 shipping to the US. I'm trying to decide between this and the A4, but this is certainly cheaper. The A4 cases arrived at Dan's house and he is starting to ship them out. Overclocker.co.uk will have additional stock up soon but I'm unsure of the cost, but they'd be available sooner.
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By the time you're in the market for a cheap M.2 drive, Optane will be the thing to get.
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Gonkish posted:If the gods themselves aren't fighting over possession of my rig then I have dishonored my ancestors. We know very well you've dishonored them many times over already. 
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Wistful of Dollars posted:We know very well you've dishonored them many times over already. I'm just really, really into midget porn, ok? GOD DAMMIT! 
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Apparently Silverstone was showing off an RVZ-03 last week. It's like the old Ravens, but the front is more angley, and it has room inside for 4 2.5" drives. When I went looking for information about it, I came across this page in french: https://www.cowcotland.com/news/56146/silverstone-rvz03-enchaine-ftz01-e-ml07-e.html It looks like the ML07 and FTZ01 are both getting -E revisions, just like the RVZ01. That probably means no slot loading disc drive, but more room inside for drives, and enough space for a smallish ATX PSU. http://www.overclockers.com/ces-2017-silverstone-shows-cases-psus-and-more/ Here's an english page that says the new cases have room for 12" video cards. It also looks like they got rid of the logo that was printed on the front of the FTZ01, which is great, because why would you even put that there when the case is probably going to be turned sideways. Maxwell Adams fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jan 14, 2017 |
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Maxwell Adams posted:Apparently Silverstone was showing off an RVZ-03 last week. It's like the old Ravens, but the front is more angley, and it has room inside for 4 2.5" drives. ... Did they set up an exhibit in a regular hotel room? Seriously, the cases are on the coffee table in front of the sofa and the PSUs are just in front of the TV!
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:... Did they set up an exhibit in a regular hotel room? Yeah, that’s not unusual at electronics conventions.
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Can you lovely ITX-knowledgable folks let me know if the case (NZXT manta mini ITX) should be sufficient for these parts? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/polymetric/saved/sbQRBm
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an skeleton posted:Can you lovely ITX-knowledgable folks let me know if the case (NZXT manta mini ITX) should be sufficient for these parts? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/polymetric/saved/sbQRBm
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an skeleton posted:Can you lovely ITX-knowledgable folks let me know if the case (NZXT manta mini ITX) should be sufficient for these parts? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/polymetric/saved/sbQRBm Christ, that case really messes with my mind - I keep thinking the photos are shot with a fisheye lens, even when I know it's not.
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an skeleton posted:Can you lovely ITX-knowledgable folks let me know if the case (NZXT manta mini ITX) should be sufficient for these parts? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/polymetric/saved/sbQRBm Everything should fit, but you should probably get Kaby Lake (7-series stuff) and a Z270 motherboard at this point. Generally MicroCenter has good prices, if you have one near you.
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an skeleton posted:Can you lovely ITX-knowledgable folks let me know if the case (NZXT manta mini ITX) should be sufficient for these parts? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/polymetric/saved/sbQRBm
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Thanks for the input, y'all. If you have any suggestions on an alternative case that i can basically interchange with the Manta, that would be great. I will say that I am new to building PCs and if fitting everything into a tiny case means I am going to gently caress things up, maybe I should just go with the Manta?VulgarandStupid posted:Everything should fit, but you should probably get Kaby Lake (7-series stuff) and a Z270 motherboard at this point. Generally MicroCenter has good prices, if you have one near you. Will changing to these affect anything else?
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jeeze at the size of the manta you might as well get a matx case
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Photex posted:jeeze at the size of the manta you might as well get a matx case do you have any recommendations for smaller cases? i really dont even know where/how to begin looking. i like the construction/look of the manta, so anything in a similar vein (but smaller) would be nice.
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I thought I should update on my Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX-480 replacement. I got the new one installed today and it has put up with all my bullshit so far. I am actually surprised. Given all the issues with the RX-480 demanding more power than the spec allows, I assumed this would just be the second round in a battle that would get into all kinds of NewEgg shenanigans. Nope--it works fine. I have inevitably jinxed myself, but it's better I get it out of the way now.
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an skeleton posted:Thanks for the input, y'all. If you have any suggestions on an alternative case that i can basically interchange with the Manta, that would be great. I will say that I am new to building PCs and if fitting everything into a tiny case means I am going to gently caress things up, maybe I should just go with the Manta? No, they are just the latest generation of processors from Intel. They are a little bit faster and cost essentially the same right n ow.
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an skeleton posted:do you have any recommendations for smaller cases? i really dont even know where/how to begin looking. i like the construction/look of the manta, so anything in a similar vein (but smaller) would be nice. the Silverstone SG13's are pretty good, you can also check out Bitfenix and Fractal Design. I'm personally waiting for the Metis Plus to become available in the USA, I was told 2-3 weeks. http://www.raijintek.com/en/products_detail.php?ProductID=54
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an skeleton posted:do you have any recommendations for smaller cases? i really dont even know where/how to begin looking. i like the construction/look of the manta, so anything in a similar vein (but smaller) would be nice. Keep in mind that if you choose a smaller case you'll probably need to swap that PSU out for a smaller model. Larger mITX cases like the NZXT Manta and Bitfenix Prodigy are built to accomodate full sized ATX PSUs like the one you selected on pcpartpicker. The OP of this thread has some solid choices for SFX and SFX-L PSUs. If you're OK with the size of the NZXT Manta and don't really need or want something smaller you might also look into a mATX build. Fun fact: the Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 is just about the same size as the NZXT Manta (210x405x484mm vs 245x426x450mm, respectively [WxHxD]) Dr Cheeto fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Jan 16, 2017 |
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an skeleton posted:do you have any recommendations for smaller cases? i really dont even know where/how to begin looking. i like the construction/look of the manta, so anything in a similar vein (but smaller) would be nice. Get a fractal Nano S IMO. beautiful case. check my previous posts for my build using one
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an skeleton posted:Thanks for the input, y'all. If you have any suggestions on an alternative case that i can basically interchange with the Manta, that would be great. I will say that I am new to building PCs and if fitting everything into a tiny case means I am going to gently caress things up, maybe I should just go with the Manta? I would get a Thermaltake Supressor F1, its a cube case and about 30*30*30 cm. It should fit everything youre getting. I would go to Kabylake, because Kabylake mobos have madd leds on them, plus more common support for M2 drives. The Strix mitx mobo has a heat sink on its M2, and whoch should help prevent throttling i guess, since most other mobo have M2 on the bottom of the board. its a fair bit more then what you're looking at though. Also Z270 boards tend to have water pump headers, which i assume is a good thing even if you're using an AIO
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AEMINAL posted:Get a fractal Nano S IMO. beautiful case. Also a comically large ITX case.
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Fractal Nano S, Phantext Evolv Itx, NZXT Manta are all in the weird category of 'giant ITX'. Actual small ITX cases you can buy in stores include Silverstone Sugo series (sg13 is the 'best') Rajintek Metis, Coolermaster Elite and Thermaltake's subwoofer-looking thing. I honestly can't recommend ITX if it's your first ever build. I'd recommend you get a small mATX system, unless you 100% need a tiny box. mATX is cheaper and easier to work with.
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an skeleton posted:Thanks for the input, y'all. If you have any suggestions on an alternative case that i can basically interchange with the Manta, that would be great. I will say that I am new to building PCs and if fitting everything into a tiny case means I am going to gently caress things up, maybe I should just go with the Manta? I think you just need to figure out what you want. You're not going to gently caress anything up as long as you don't try to go super-small; maybe stay away from the very small cases for a first-time build. If you really like the aesthetics of the Manta and you don't care that it's pretty big for an ITX case, just go with it. If you want something a little smaller that's still big enough to comfortably work in without having any real restrictions, grab the Fractal Nano.
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