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PST posted:Zeb+Chopper+AP-5 felt like a filler until the end, but then fell into the typical Thrawn 'just as planned' type resolution. Also nice to see the imperial droid transform and go all terminator mode. I actually liked the logic Thrawn used at the end. Felt like a pretty good resolution that made a lot of sense.
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I like that by stopping the timer on the bomb, they ended up speeding up the timer on Thrawn finding them.
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DancinBrud posted:I like that by stopping the timer on the bomb, they ended up speeding up the timer on Thrawn finding them. 
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I laughed pretty hard at Chopper almost-certainly blooping out "I have a bad feeling about this" as Zeb started dragging the droid back to base.
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tribbledirigible posted:It was also a nice homage to the Mcquarrie concept art for C-3PO. The whole episode was a bunch of homage to McQuarrie's concept art having a wacky adventure together, starting with with proto-C3PO fighting the spider monsters.
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And Filoni saying he wished they could have used the K2 model for the droid instead if the episode had of come later in the production cycle.
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Jan 15, 2017 10:44
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Also, a big chunk of the beginning of this episode was an homage to the opening of ESB, right down to shots and lines that were copied almost exactly.drunkill posted:And Filoni saying he wished they could have used the K2 model for the droid instead if the episode had of come later in the production cycle. It definitely felt like those droids were intended to be K2 units. I do have to wonder, though, why the Empire would send out bipedal, humanoid droids to investigate possible Rebel bases on random planets throughout the galaxy. It seems like standard probe droids would do a better job, what with being able to float above rough terrain and dangerous organisms and all that. Finally, have to say that I dislike Thrawn's flagship featuring a huge decal on it. That just doesn't feel very Imperial...
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MeinPanzer posted:Also, a big chunk of the beginning of this episode was an homage to the opening of ESB, right down to shots and lines that were copied almost exactly. Yeah but everyone knows what a probe droid is and does, and they didn't have Vader with them to determine on the fly from long lens photos that it was definitely the Rebels, and not a smuggler outpost.
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NTRabbit posted:Yeah but everyone knows what a probe droid is and does, and they didn't have Vader with them to determine on the fly from long lens photos that it was definitely the Rebels, and not a smuggler outpost. Telling some anxious officer that the images picked up aren't the Rebel base they were looking for had to be like 90% of Vader's day job.
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Roach Warehouse posted:I laughed pretty hard at Chopper almost-certainly blooping out "I have a bad feeling about this" as Zeb started dragging the droid back to base. Yeah, I had to watch that twice to make sure it was what I thought it was. Normally I'm not the biggest fan of the Chopper voice effect - it sounds too close to someone literally saying "wahp waaahp wahp wahp waahp" into a microphone, but this one time it worked out nicely.
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Dave Syndrome posted:Yeah, I had to watch that twice to make sure it was what I thought it was.
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But Thrawn's whole thing is he sees war through the prism of art and psychology, having artwork as a totem or banner on his ship makes sense.
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MeinPanzer posted:Also, a big chunk of the beginning of this episode was an homage to the opening of ESB, right down to shots and lines that were copied almost exactly. They were called infiltrator droids, so I got the impression they were supposed to actually sneak onto the base and catalog personnel, weapons, defenses, etc. This droid only went psycho because it was found out.
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the way the infiltrator droid works reminds me of how the Terminator robots were supposed to be until James Cameron was like "sure, Arnold is terrifying and these killbots should be terrifying too". Also this episode was amazing, just because of AP-5's snark 
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Jan 16, 2017 00:22
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Snape Bot remains awesome. I loved the references to the opening of ESB, and the Aliens like shots when Chopper was looking for the Infiltrator.
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Aces High posted:the way the infiltrator droid works reminds me of how the Terminator robots were supposed to be until James Cameron was like "sure, Arnold is terrifying and these killbots should be terrifying too". yeah, much more Lance Henrikson Terminator. Also, Rickman droid is great as always.
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twistedmentat posted:Snape Bot remains awesome. This and some other observations about these newer episodes makes me wonder... Do you think the writers and show-runners are beginning to aim a little higher on the age demographic as they go along? I think they might. Introducing a character like Thrawn almost requires that you don't sugarcoat how badass he is, and as a result the sense of "stakes" feels higher recently. It's still aimed much lower than the movies are/were, but it does feel like it's pulling fewer punches lately.
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The Disney Star Wars group is very comfortable with violence in Star Wars, even the kid stuff.
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woodch posted:This and some other observations about these newer episodes makes me wonder... Do you think the writers and show-runners are beginning to aim a little higher on the age demographic as they go along? I think they might. Introducing a character like Thrawn almost requires that you don't sugarcoat how badass he is, and as a result the sense of "stakes" feels higher recently. I think so. Rebels early on was very tame compared with were Clone Wars left off in terms of killing and maiming. Now it's pretty much right up there, with Sabine blowing up Stormtroopers by the dozens with TDs and fools getting sabred and stomped.
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woodch posted:This and some other observations about these newer episodes makes me wonder... Do you think the writers and show-runners are beginning to aim a little higher on the age demographic as they go along? I think they might. Introducing a character like Thrawn almost requires that you don't sugarcoat how badass he is, and as a result the sense of "stakes" feels higher recently. Maybe they're ageing the stories along with whoever would have first started watching the show; i.e. S1 was aimed at 10-year-olds, S2 at 11-year-olds, S3 at 12-year-olds.... That said, I think the problem is more that kids today aren't exposed to things that really wouldn't bother them. I got hooked on anime watching Robotech and Thundersub on first-run broadcast TV, and being blown away by the idea of serialized stories, character deaths, and not shying away from the horrors of war, even if keeping them relatively tame. It was quite the thing watching GI Joe, where the only thing ever blown up is vehicles, then watching Roy strumming that guitar.....
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PST posted:Zeb+Chopper+AP-5 felt like a filler until the end, but then fell into the typical Thrawn 'just as planned' type resolution. Also nice to see the imperial droid transform and go all terminator mode. It would be nice, if just once before the Thrawn rebel show down, that he suffer just one set back. And not the "Yes Yes they get this but I get something more" I guess you could argue is all he does is test them and hence doesnt care if they get away. But gently caress for once lets see him pissed off.
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That one idiot at Hera's house pissed him off, does that count? 
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Ups_rail posted:It would be nice, if just once before the Thrawn rebel show down, that he suffer just one set back. But then he'd cease to be a writer's pet, and we can't have that.
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Ups_rail posted:It would be nice, if just once before the Thrawn rebel show down, that he suffer just one set back. I dunno, I tend to think that Rebels Thrawn is mostly spinning things after the fact. Chopper Base has, what, a handful of A-Wings and the Ghost? If you jumped in and blew the whole thing up (presuming the rebels don't pull a Hoth and escape) that's a blow, sure, but it doesn't end the rebellion. So now you just lost an Imperial class Star Destroyer (even if she's just damaged that's at the very least months of yard time, so that ship is out of action for the foreseeable future, and she might have been totally destroyed) and all you got out of it was the supposition that there's a rebel outpost on one of 94 planets? Yeah, you've narrowed it down, but that's an expensive way to do it. I'd call that a setback, no matter how much Thrawn wants to call it a win.
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VolticSurge posted:But then he'd cease to be a writer's pet, and we can't have that. To be totally fair, I think the resolution of this episode was probably the most reasonable example of this kind of thing so far. The rebels being damned if they do, damned if they don't follows pretty naturally from the set up. They still "won" in the sense that they got the best possible outcome from a bad situation. Thrawn still "lost" because his best outcome was the droid reporting back in.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:That one idiot at Hera's house pissed him off, does that count? "Hmm, my boss just spent a full minute monologuing about how much he loves art... I know! I'll advocate burning an irreplaceable artwork right in front of him, that's sure to impres-ACK MY NECK!"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqCYb3fmgEI Kanan going full on Blind Master with his training.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dprfufVXR8k Looks like that takes place after this one maybe?
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woodch posted:This and some other observations about these newer episodes makes me wonder... Do you think the writers and show-runners are beginning to aim a little higher on the age demographic as they go along? I think they might. Introducing a character like Thrawn almost requires that you don't sugarcoat how badass he is, and as a result the sense of "stakes" feels higher recently. Thrawn is a poo poo character aimed at precocious 4th graders. His presence brings the whole show down and the closer they hew towards the book Thrawn the more "putting the 'young' in 'young adult'" this show gets.
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TBH,Thrawn is starting to show signs of being a Villain Sue. Only way they can salvage him in my eyes is if the season finale is him executing his GRAND FLAWLESS PLAN which almost succeeds,only for the dominoes to spill all over the place due to something he failed to account for,such as,say, Kulani's droid troops showing up to help. Then he loses his poo poo and blames his subordinates for the screwup, because he's NEVER WRONG according to himself. That's why I like Rogue One's villain more,honestly-he's losing his poo poo,he's desperately trying to cover his rear end,and the threat is less of his BRILLIANT STRATEGY,and more of the overwhelming military power he commands. I'm not saying they should make Thrawn into a bumbling idiot. Just make him less...what's a good word? Omnipotent? All-knowing?
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At least he's not using art to deduce his strategy all the time anymore? 
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Someone on reddit painted their Armada miniatures and assembled Pheonix Squadron: https://imgur.com/a/tvpg1 They just need to add the Hammerhead and Quasar Fire carrier to the game now. Edit: I just noticed almost all the A-Wing squads are only on 1 health, hah. drunkill fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Jan 19, 2017 |
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drunkill posted:Edit: I just noticed almost all the A-Wing squads are only on 1 health, hah. Such attention to detail! Clearly the A-Wing squad with 2 health is Wedge's squad 
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Did they say why they needed an actual base when they have that giant hanger ship. I assume that thing is still floating about somewhere with the hammerheads since the only thing we see on the ground are A-wings and CR90s.
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Shbobdb posted:Thrawn is a poo poo character aimed at precocious 4th graders. His presence brings the whole show down and the closer they hew towards the book Thrawn the more "putting the 'young' in 'young adult'" this show gets. How is this different from R2D2 and C3P0? More characters designed for children. And everyone knows by now Star Wars is full of poo poo characters, it's just accepted because its Star Wars. Thrawn is cool. Just not as cool as Chopper.
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I have no particular love for the character, but I don't see how the Rebels version of Thrawn could inspire such red hot hate. He's practically a minor character, and he's barely done anything--which is its own complaint, but certainly nothing new for the antagonists in this series. He's also probably one of my favorite voice performances in the show.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Did they say why they needed an actual base when they have that giant hanger ship. I assume that thing is still floating about somewhere with the hammerheads since the only thing we see on the ground are A-wings and CR90s. Why do we need naval bases, and air strips when we have aircraft carriers?
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I think a lot of Thrawn's viability as a good villain hinges on the outcome of his big plan to expose and destroy the Rebels; if the main cast ends up escaping in the end with minimal losses ("minimal" being, in this instance, possibly the Quasar Fire and some of the fleet), then it essentially defangs him in a style not at all dissimilar to what happened with Kallus and the Inquisitors. To avoid that, I have an inkling that Bendu's going to kick the bucket (I mean, he's a mentor archetype and everything). There's also a moderate chance of Sato biting it (pairs well with the ep with his brother's kid earlier in the season) and a slight possibility of Kanan or Zeb, the latter of which would probably piss me off because it'd feel like wasted potential. Sabine's gotta live because she's got an ongoing arc, Ezra because something something audience surrogate, the rest because of Rogue One. inb4 touching AP-4 death scene
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