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magnum_valentino
Apr 18, 2013
Why? What's the context of this?

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GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

magnum_valentino posted:

Why? What's the context of this?

On mobile so I can't embed tweets but Bubba Ray tweeted that there's no such thing as a six-star match because stars don't mean anything, only money does.

DM Punk
Aug 24, 2004

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Goddammit wrong thread sorry

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

I mean, is anyone particularly shocked that Bubba Ray Dudley thinks this though?

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Nothing better than an art vs money debate. Both opinions get to be treated as actively harmful to the other sides way of life without any evidence, both groups therefore get to treat the other as subhuman garbage for "hurting," them, and nobody can ever win because the reality is that two have inexorable links and can't exist without the other, as has been the case for all of recorded human history. Hooray!

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Like, I kinda get Bubba's point but NJPW World subscriptions are up by quite a lot since WK11 because of the buzz around the match, which probably wouldn't have been as much if Big Dave had just given it 5 stars. And Okada/Omega was the main event in the Tokyo Dome, not some high school gym. I doubt they're hurting for money.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

RealFoxy posted:

Megumi Kudo still does that move better than both of them and she's only wrestled like twice in the last 2 years :v:

I mean, she invented that poo poo, you can't mess with that.


KungFu Grip posted:

that's probably the safest vertebreaker i've ever seen.

See, it's fine, do more vertebreakers, Seth. :getin:

Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around


:swoon:

You'd never know she was so ripped under those awful bodysuits she wears.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Dad https://twitter.com/WWEGable/status/821199908271259648

Solus
May 31, 2011

Drongos.

Please don't bring your kinks into the public sphere Rovert. I will kinkshame you

Evil Badman
Aug 19, 2006

Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

Solus posted:

Please don't bring your kinks into the public sphere Rovert. I will kinkshame you

What if being kinkshamed is his kink

AMReese
Jan 31, 2011

I'm driving with my mind!
https://twitter.com/dannyodwyer/status/821244540019294208
For the sake of being on-topic:
https://twitter.com/Maffewgregg/status/821397350178586625

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Yeah 'cause people aren't still (rightfully) jizzing over WK11 or anything. Nope. Not a bit.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
I don't care about UK tournament or any of the jobbers in it sorry... The belt looks wonderful of course.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


LORD OF BOOTY posted:

I mean, is anyone particularly shocked that Bubba Ray Dudley thinks this though?

Meltzer agrees with him. Bubba's tweeted about how he'd rather have a big payday than have a five-star match, some idiot tweeted it to Dave going "Look at this idiot!", and Dave went "Bubba's right."

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Well the good wrestlers have good matches and makes good money. Dont see whats the problem.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

rare Magic card l00k posted:

Meltzer agrees with him. Bubba's tweeted about how he'd rather have a big payday than have a five-star match, some idiot tweeted it to Dave going "Look at this idiot!", and Dave went "Bubba's right."

yeah i mean Dave's the first to admit that workrate isn't really that much of a draw historically (I think the example he pulls is that the Steamboat/Flair program didn't do that well at selling tickets) so I imagine he'd agree with Bubba there

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Omega Okada was really good but they fell into the more recent flawed routine of a bunch of huge moves that should have ended the match only to end with a far less devastating looking finisher just because it was the guy's finisher.

Dilbert Fanclub President
Oct 21, 2015

by Reene
I'm sure real artists can make good money commissioning lovely anime furry porn, but it's probably more fulfilling to make art they enjoy making.

There's some middle ground, obviously. Daniel Bryan and Kevin Nash are both practitioners of the same art, but their motivations and natural tools differentiate them.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Dilbert Fanclub President posted:

I'm sure real artists can make good money commissioning lovely anime furry porn

Uh what

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Dilbert Fanclub President posted:

I'm sure real artists can make good money commissioning lovely anime furry porn,

Thank you for contributing to the arts I guess

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

You done hosed up now, Callihan :black101:

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003




AW HELL YEAH

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

By the same logic there is no such thing as art as there is only the value of money ascribed to a product or a brand. We might as well pump out mediocre filth so long as it makes more money than something with any real emotion or beauty within it. Film, wrestling, painting, music, it's all on the same level as toilet paper.

But I think what Bubba meant to say is "Nobody is talking about me and my last run in the WWE stank."

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
Bubba should know that the true meaning of happiness in life is to shorten your lifespan by 30 years by repeatedly landing on your head in front of a crowd chanting "this is awesome"

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
You'd have a point if Bubba Dudley wasn't Bubba Dudley.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Alain Post posted:

Bubba should know that the true meaning of happiness in life is to shorten your lifespan by 30 years by repeatedly landing on your head in front of a crowd chanting "this is awesome"

A crowd implies you charged money. A true artist would never care about money, lest their 'art' be reduced to something of a monetary value just like toilet paper.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
Nothing is more bougie than demanding that workers find fulfillment in work itself, rather than their wages.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

rare Magic card l00k posted:

A crowd implies you charged money. A true artist would never care about money, lest their 'art' be reduced to something of a monetary value just like toilet paper.

Bubba worked in TNA longer than he worked in the WWE.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Alain Post posted:

Nothing is more bougie than demanding that workers find fulfillment in work itself, rather than their wages.

marx was work you mark

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Alain Post posted:

Nothing is more bougie than demanding that workers find fulfillment in work itself, rather than their wages.

When you think about it, TNA was the biggest celebration of wrestling as an art, between not paying artists, charging no money for entry to their premier art studio, and actively deterring people from giving them money for PPVs.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

rare Magic card l00k posted:

When you think about it, TNA was the biggest celebration of wrestling as an art, between not paying artists, charging no money for entry to their premier art studio, and actively deterring people from giving them money for PPVs.

Paul Heyman is basically a patron saint of the arts.

King Bahamut
Nov 12, 2003
internet internet lama sabacthani
Bubba will also wax rhapsodic at times about how he cares about the business, people who don't shouldn't be there, etc so I think he's playing whatever side is convenient for calling marks marks that day.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

King Bahamut posted:

Bubba will also wax rhapsodic at times about how he cares about the business, people who don't shouldn't be there, etc so I think he's playing whatever side is convenient for calling marks marks that day.

Yeah like when Kevin Nash says that stuff I'll see where he's coming from but when you're Bubba Dudley, a guy who worked for ECW and talked about how much he loved the creative freedom, worked for WWE doing stupidly dangerous matches and then worked for TNA in front of handfuls of people I get the feeling he's just being a jealous old dick.

Also I may be very wrong on this but I think I remember Bubba being one of the people who called people who wouldn't take unprotected chairshots pussies. May be mixing it up with Raven.

Edit: I know he got mad the Motor City Machine Guns wouldn't blade with them.

Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jan 17, 2017

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/realellsworth/status/821465234267312128

Frankston
Jul 27, 2010



Well I bought a Kenny Omega t-shirt because I enjoyed the hell out of his 6-star match

I haven't ever bought a Dudley Boyz t-shirt

keevo
Jun 16, 2011

:burger:WAKE UP:burger:
It's too bad we won't get a Ride Along of Carmella and Ellesworth.

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Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Nostalgia draw is the only thing keeping Bubba relevant in 2017 and acting like that's not the most significant thing puts him out to pasture. Basically he's self serving, which has always been Bubba.

That's why passion and cult acclaim mattered most when that's all Bubba had.

Nobody cares when Nash says it because Nash has always said that.

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