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Space Hamlet posted:Speaking of expeditions, do unstable environments exist in any form in Generations? There's still the food skill that refers to 'em... That just refers to quests where's there's a chance of another monster spawning I assume, so yeah they still exist.
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Space Hamlet posted:Speaking of expeditions, do unstable environments exist in any form in Generations? There's still the food skill that refers to 'em... Yeah. The quest info will tell you whether or not the environment is unstable
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Jan 17, 2017 05:21
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Wamdoodle posted:Ah OK. I thought I remember seeing something about that. I'm still working through MH4U anyway. I can wait. Thanks IIRC their exact quote was that there wasn't going to be a MHXG. Correct by technicality 
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Jan 17, 2017 05:40
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Just fought Nerscylla for the first time. Maybe a great sword wasn't the most appropriate weapon for that fight.
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Jan 17, 2017 06:33
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Just fought Nerscylla for the first time. Maybe a great sword wasn't the most appropriate weapon for that fight. I wouldn't worry about it. Greatsword kinda underperforms in games that aren't Generations until you can get Focus on your armor.
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dragon enthusiast posted:IIRC their exact quote was that there wasn't going to be a MHXG. Correct by technicality Naw, it wasn't even that much. It was more like "currently, we have no plans for a G-rank version of MHX". Probably true, especially if that was still a 2015 interview! But then they did have plans and it exists.
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Just finished the mission where they introduce Mizutsune and welp, that sure is a hell of a way to introduce a monster. 
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Jan 19, 2017 20:37
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Jade Rider posted:Just finished the mission where they introduce Mizutsune and welp, that sure is a hell of a way to introduce a monster. Soap dragon best dragon. It is known. (I really tried to beat Mizutsune there, but even though I made it flee several times, I couldn't seal the deal before fainting a third time. The later encounter seemed a lot easier. Mizutsune didn't show up the 2nd time I attempted that particular mission, so either it's random or it's scripted to go off once?)
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:Soap dragon best dragon. It is known. All the fated four are scripted, yeah. And they all have like 4x Thier normal HP. You're meant to just run from them. You can kill them though, it will just take most of your allotted time.
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I finally got my beloved Anat set again, and I can't believe that back in 4U I forgot the chakra pieces existed. I was tossing the EX Gore waist on to round it out before, and in searching the armory for waist pieces that wouldn't clash too hard with the rest of the set, I realized "oh right, there's this invisible piece with three slots". gently caress me, that's the best thing for fashion, how did I not notice that sooner? It may not be the best set ever, but gemming in enough for HG earplugs and Latent Power +2 is still handy, and the whole set looks so loving cool. I wish they made an Anat figure to go with the Rage figure that came out a while back. I guess now I don't have much excuse to not go after Alatreon and Amatsu. Still haven't beaten either, but aside from the metal Raths, that's about it. Just in time to cool down for MHXX, I guess, whenever that comes out.
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Bananasaurus Rex posted:All the fated four are scripted, yeah. And they all have like 4x Thier normal HP. You're meant to just run from them. You can kill them though, it will just take most of your allotted time. Ah, that jives with my experience. I did end up running from the last two since I figured that was the gimmick.  Is it wrong to want to murderhobo much stronger critters?
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:Ah, that jives with my experience. I did end up running from the last two since I figured that was the gimmick. You get quests to fight them for real later on. Astalos in particular is probably one of my favorite fights in the game. Mizutsune is up there, too.
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deadly_pudding posted:You get quests to fight them for real later on. Astalos in particular is probably one of my favorite fights in the game. Mizutsune is up there, too. Yeah, I just wanted to murder them back then, too. I actually liked the Mizutsune fight the best. Astalos felt familiar already, and Gammoth was just kind of frustrating -- not due to difficulty, but just because his scale kinda defied the mechanics.
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Killing Zynogre the first time you see it was a rite of passage for my group. I don't remember if he has inflated health though.
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Is there any chance they'll bring back more subspecies for XX? I miss Stygian Zinogre, but I also miss his baller armor set that's practically made for greatsword. Focus and evasion built into one neat package, and you get a free damage boost via unscathed for not getting hit for as long as possible while styling on monsters. It owns. I'm mostly just waiting for XX at this point, Gen turned out to not be my cup of tea and I burned out after uncapping my hr.
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Wrist Watch posted:Is there any chance they'll bring back more subspecies for XX? Almost no chance. They specifically went into MHX with "no subspecies allowed", designing deviants as alternatives to them. I'd expect more deviants rather than the inclusion of subspecies. They also made R series armor to fill in the gap left by no U series armor and I expect that to continue with G-rank.
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Decus posted:Almost no chance. They specifically went into MHX with "no subspecies allowed", designing deviants as alternatives to them. I'd expect more deviants rather than the inclusion of subspecies. They also made R series armor to fill in the gap left by no U series armor and I expect that to continue with G-rank. They also said that MHX wouldn't get a G-version, so who knows at this point.
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Neo_Crimson posted:They also said that MHX wouldn't get a G-version, so who knows at this point. Only they didn't say that ever. They said "there are currently no plans" in like 2015.
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Decus posted:Almost no chance. They specifically went into MHX with "no subspecies allowed", designing deviants as alternatives to them. I'd expect more deviants rather than the inclusion of subspecies. They also made R series armor to fill in the gap left by no U series armor and I expect that to continue with G-rank.  I would say I hope he's in MH5, but I'm pretty sure Capcom has an actual real life desire sensor and I'm afraid of jinxing it.
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Wrist Watch posted:desire sensor No.
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Oh my gawd my little palicoes made a tank and attacked the Tigrex like a silly little Godzilla movie. Why doesn't Generations have that?
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Palico tanks are still around in Generations. You just need to unlock the skill, and most people don't run with it.
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Allarion posted:Palico tanks are still around in Generations. You just need to unlock the skill, and most people don't run with it. Palicos are way more  in Gen, to be fair. I just got an array for Meownster Hunter and left it at that.
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Haquer posted:Palicos are way more There's a bunch of little things like this that have given me a hankering to go back to 4U now. I got more done in Gen than I have in any other MH game, but that means that although I now have good sets of pretty much all the weapons I like in Gen I've still never experienced G Rank stuff, and there's tons of variants I have never fought or fought like one time in 4U before I stopped near the beginning of High Rank. I know people still run G Rank stuff on 4U but is there any community for anything else?
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I'm running through 4U right now. Haven't used online yet though
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ReWinter posted:There's a bunch of little things like this that have given me a hankering to go back to 4U now. I've played 3U, 4U, X and Gen and 4U is definitely my favorite out of the lot so far. I do like the different styles but a bunch of the other things that were added in X/Gen are just pains in the rear end. Also gently caress variant farming.
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I'm playing 4U at the moment and I think the palico system in Generations is wayyy better. Generations improved upon so many small things (and some not so small things, like weapons) that 4U already feels kinda dated to me. Still a very fun game though, and from what I've gathered it had more longevity than Gen when it came to really high level play (G rank, basically). 
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G-rank is good, but 4U's was not. When a monster isn't fun to fight in low or high rank it doesn't magically become more fun to fight in G-rank, is the thing. Most of the actually good 4th gen and 3rd gen monsters and most of the good gen 2 stuff like Tigrex are too sparse compared to the bad. 3U is great though. I can't think of a single bad fight in the entirety of its G-rank outside of the "most elder dragons are bad no matter the game" caveat but at least they are all actually at the tailest of ends so you can skip them without locking yourself out of anything other than their gear/weapons whereas there's an entire tier of them required to continue progressing in 4U. It's not that elder dragons are hard or anything--they just aren't as well put together as other fights. MHXX should be fine as well--its monster selection is more wheat and less chaff compared to 4U--so long as they don't build an entire tier of the worst fights in the series, like a Loa-Shan Lung, Yama Tsukami, Jhen Mohran, Dalamadur tier that's required to get to more deviants or hyper fights.
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Decus posted:G-rank is good, but 4U's was not. When a monster isn't fun to fight in low or high rank it doesn't magically become more fun to fight in G-rank, is the thing. Most of the actually good 4th gen and 3rd gen monsters and most of the good gen 2 stuff like Tigrex are too sparse compared to the bad. Underwater combat can eat my entire rear end in a top hat.
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What are these awful monsters in 4U? I thought they were all pretty fun.
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I hope MHXX brings back Jaggi's extended family.
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Wrist Watch posted:What are these awful monsters in 4U? I thought they were all pretty fun. The only monsters I don't like in 4U are ones that I hate in FU and X as well: Yian Kutku and Garuga. gently caress those chickens.
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Countblanc posted:I hope MHXX brings back Jaggi's extended family. Same. I think as raptor clones go the -aggis are better designed and way more fun to fight than the -dromes. I don't know what the appeal is for Velocidrome over Great Jaggi at all unless folks get some kind of nostalgia out of it.
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Meldonox posted:Same. I think as raptor clones go the -aggis are better designed and way more fun to fight than the -dromes. I don't know what the appeal is for Velocidrome over Great Jaggi at all unless folks get some kind of nostalgia out of it. Yeah, agreed. Great Jaggi was fun to fight and I like Great Wroggi's design way better than Iodrome's. The 'dromes are ugly and dumb.
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Haquer posted:The only monsters I don't like in 4U are ones that I hate in FU and X as well: Yian Kutku and Garuga. I completely forgot about them. I'm pretty sure they're not in any G rank keys though, so I just pretended they didn't exist. I used to hate gravios and kushala until I tried gunning them and now they're my favorite fights to use bowguns on.
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I'd be okay with those chickens if they didn't SCREAM all the time holy poo poo the screaming, my ears.  The 'dromes aren't mechanically interesting fights; Great Maccao was much better.
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Wrist Watch posted:What are these awful monsters in 4U? I thought they were all pretty fun. What everybody else has said with Gravios, Khezu, Basarios and Cephadrome added. You can solo bow Black Gravios in 15-20 minutes, but it's not going to be 15-20 minutes of an interesting fight so much as 15-20 minutes of chore. Ditto for Khezu, Basarios and Cephadrome though thankfully faster. Added together with the birds and the dromes and the elder dragons it's a significant amount of monsters that just aren't fun compared to newer stuff, like Gigginox vs. Khezu or Barroth vs. Gravios/Basarios. It's like how Gen is too full of gather quests. Sure, you can ignore them to a point but it still would have been a better experience without them. 4U G-rank would have been better if it was built toward a length such that every new monster was a key. Instead, only subspecies are keys most of the time and of all things they often made Gen 2 monsters have 2 keys, one for main and one for subspecies.
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Meldonox posted:Same. I think as raptor clones go the -aggis are better designed and way more fun to fight than the -dromes. I don't know what the appeal is for Velocidrome over Great Jaggi at all unless folks get some kind of nostalgia out of it. in frontier the velocidromes spit farcasters at you
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Decus posted:Khezu How can you hate Khezu??? That big, slow, lumbering, awkward rubber penis just doesn't know what to do when hunter-senpai comes around. Khezu is the purest representation of the monster hunter fanbase in game
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orphean posted:How can you hate Khezu??? That big, slow, lumbering, awkward rubber penis just doesn't know what to do when hunter-senpai comes around. With a ranged weapon it should never even have a chance at hitting you, which is boring--it's just an even easier to kill rathian. With a melee weapon it wastes your time on repeat, which is boring--it's just a health spongier, time-waster rathian. Gigginox was a good redux of it but then for whatever reason they decided to go back to the inferior version for four releases without really touching it up. Khezu would at least be more atmospheric if caves were darker/they kept the torch stuff and if target camera didn't work for it until after a clear sighting. But, without that it's just poorly thought out and has absolutely nothing going for it these days.
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