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dangerdoom volvo posted:jay peaked when he made the miami bass song about liking boobs ftfy
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Jan 19, 2017 20:23
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Improbable Lobster posted:They weren't made about virtue signalling because it's a fake idea made up by neo-nazis. They totes were. I agree it's dumb and neo-nazis have raised it to a way of life, so gently caress it regardless
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Jan 19, 2017 20:58
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Jan 19, 2017 21:33
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The Vosgian Beast posted:They totes were. I agree it's dumb and neo-nazis have raised it to a way of life, so gently caress it regardless No, they weren't. Virtue Signalling isn't a real phenomena. It's a completely made up thing. It doesn't describe something that is real. It's a fake idea used to try to discredit and silence people raising issues. It isn't a thing that people who are real and alive do.
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Jan 19, 2017 21:37
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Improbable Lobster posted:No, they weren't. Virtue Signalling isn't a real phenomena. It's a completely made up thing. It doesn't describe something that is real. It's a fake idea used to try to discredit and silence people raising issues. It isn't a thing that people who are real and alive do. virtue signaling is a thing dude, but before nazis stole it it was about stuff like that joke about someone only donating to NPR to get the tote bag with NPR on it or something, the people who only support a cause to be seen supporting a cause and don't care about the actual ideals and poo poo.
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Jan 19, 2017 21:40
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Improbable Lobster posted:No, they weren't. Virtue Signalling isn't a real phenomena. It's a completely made up thing. It doesn't describe something that is real. It's a fake idea used to try to discredit and silence people raising issues. It isn't a thing that people who are real and alive do. Uhh... Have you ever been around human beings? Think about the celebrities who bought Priuses to project an environmentally conscious image. Neo-nazis also have used hyperbolic bullshit in the past, you really should be better than that.
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Jan 19, 2017 21:42
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Tatum Girlparts posted:virtue signaling is a thing dude, but before nazis stole it it was about stuff like that joke about someone only donating to NPR to get the tote bag with NPR on it or something, the people who only support a cause to be seen supporting a cause and don't care about the actual ideals and poo poo. No it isn't, because it was literally invented by neo-nazis. The term virtua signaling is literally something that neo-nazis invented.
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Jan 19, 2017 21:43
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Improbable Lobster posted:No it isn't, because it was literally invented by neo-nazis. The term virtua signaling is literally something that neo-nazis invented. It's gained prominence through LessWrong shits, but you don't need to wonder where the term came from. Do you not know what the words 'virtue' or 'signaling' mean? The guy who invented firefighting was a horrible rear end in a top hat who used it as a way to profit off of disasters, but should we let houses burn down? This is almost literally a 'Hitler was a vegetarian' argument.
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Jan 19, 2017 21:45
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Improbable Lobster posted:No it isn't, because it was literally invented by neo-nazis. The term virtua signaling is literally something that neo-nazis invented. it was loving LessWrong just taking a really simple jump from general signalling theory to say that people like to be acknowledged as Good People in the least controversial statement ever.
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Jan 19, 2017 21:51
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It's not a real thing because if you're at the point where you have to criticise the imagined motivations for a person's actions rather than the actions themselves then you've already lost. It's like an even more insufferable version of accusing other people of being philosophical zombies.
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Jan 19, 2017 22:58
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Improbable Lobster posted:No it isn't, because it was literally invented by neo-nazis. The term virtua signaling is literally something that neo-nazis invented. I'm not a huge James Bartholomew fan, or a fan at all, but calling him a nazi is a bit harsh. Guy Mann posted:It's not a real thing because if you're at the point where you have to criticise the imagined motivations for a person's actions rather than the actions themselves then you've already lost. It's like an even more insufferable version of accusing other people of being philosophical zombies. Oh in an actual debate it amounts to an ad hominem accusation of bad faith, it should definitely be frowned upon in any kind of rational discourse where it's a good idea to have a basic level of charity and assume your interlocutor is at least arguing in good faith, which is what I think a lot of the knee-jerk anger at the term comes from. When any left-wing sentiment at all is seen as "virtue signalling" it makes it impossible to have a real conversation.
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Jan 19, 2017 23:41
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Virtue Signaling is such a goony way of calling someone a hipster. Or saying that someone is posturing. Though I will say they can be kinda overly smug, but even then you can see examples of how to deal with it like an adult from the podcast itself. Like at one point (Jay?) was smugly talking about rush album rankings and then (possibly) Chris was like 'Actually I like (Rush album here)' and then they both just laugh and move on. And even then, it's a podcast about reading bad books on purpose, of course you're gonna put a toe over the smug line now and then, it kinda goes with the territory. cosmically_cosmic fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jan 20, 2017 |
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Jan 19, 2017 23:58
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAmM872874A Consider this w/r/t "Virtue Signalling"
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Jan 20, 2017 00:01
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I'm not a huge James Bartholomew fan, or a fan at all, but calling him a nazi is a bit harsh. Yes, I agree that it's a worthless term invented whole-cloth by a hate-mongering tabloid.
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Jan 20, 2017 00:03
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Improbable Lobster posted:Yes, I agree that it's a worthless term invented whole-cloth by a hate-mongering tabloid. Time to go back to calling it slacktivism then
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Jan 20, 2017 00:07
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Forums hosed up
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Jan 20, 2017 00:07
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Goddamnit I thought a new episode was up. Instead it's just goony assholes arguing about a thing.
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Jan 20, 2017 00:11
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The best part is the original guy didn't even say 'virtue signaling' so this whole argument about the term is totally pointless. Everyone just secretly wants to argue about the term more than talk about anything related to the podcast.
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Jan 20, 2017 00:14
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cosmically_cosmic posted:The best part is the original guy didn't even say 'virtue signaling' so this whole argument about the term is totally pointless. Some people just really want to show off about how much they hate Nazis. It's like they want to make a signal of their virtuousness or something 
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Jan 20, 2017 00:25
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Some people just really want to show off about how much they hate Nazis. It's like they want to make a signal of their virtuousness or something You really wanna keep bringing it back to the alt right notion of virtue signaling which this thread isn't about. It's about a podcast, if you want to talk about the podcast or like, whether or not they are smug sometimes thats fine, but I'm really not up for getting dragged into a weird word game about a phrase I don't use or give any credit to. I mean unless you specifically have an issue with something I've said, in which case feel free to point that out to me.
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Jan 20, 2017 00:59
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"Virtue Signaling" as a term was invented to describe an actual phenomenon, but Nazis co-opted it to mean "caring about things at all" so I guess it's just easier to go back to what it used to be called, "being a pretentious dickhead". That's not what Collision was doing, though. That's just called being unfunny.
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Jan 20, 2017 01:10
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when the gently caress is Sega gonna bring back Virtua Signalling goddamnit, Virtua Signalling 5 Final Showdown was good but it's been too long!
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Jan 20, 2017 05:49
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cosmically_cosmic posted:
Jesus loving Christ I was making a goddamned joke about how much more y'all posted about this stupid derail than y'all post about actual IDEOTV episodes. I even threw in the traditional "I'm making a very obvious joke post" emote.
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Jan 20, 2017 06:05
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Jesus loving Christ I was making a goddamned joke about how much more y'all posted about this stupid derail than y'all post about actual IDEOTV episodes. I even threw in the traditional "I'm making a very obvious joke post" emote. I hope you learned your lesson. 
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Jan 20, 2017 06:18
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cosmically_cosmic posted:I hope you learned your lesson. Goons are generally too stupid to understand jokes, myself included. Yeah, I learned that a long time ago but it just doesn't sink in for some reason.
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Jan 20, 2017 06:55
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Alaois posted:when the gently caress is Sega gonna bring back Virtua Signalling goddamnit, Virtua Signalling 5 Final Showdown was good but it's been too long! literally the only good post made in the thread in the last page or so
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Jan 20, 2017 07:09
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I prefer Semaphor Calibur V for its eight-directional signalling system
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Jan 20, 2017 11:05
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Djeser posted:I prefer Semaphor Calibur V for its eight-directional signalling system I was legitimately playing a semaphore game Nintendo created last night:  Looking forward to the new game for the Switch!
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Jan 22, 2017 14:37
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Random Stranger posted:I was legitimately playing a semaphore game Nintendo created last night: The wiimote game we never knew we wanted
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Jan 22, 2017 22:57
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a) I'm pretty sure a few Mario Partys did some semaphore stuff b) The new episode is Timeline and as the lone book I brought on a trans-continental flight I've hated it for years. I finished it three loving times on that plane.
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Jan 23, 2017 00:52
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Woof, that Timeline ep was a miss. I really don't like their recent trend of picking more well-known books that aren't really outrageous enough to be entertaining to just describe and dissect on their own and then also forgetting to make jokes and just taking potshots at the author and readers instead. Like, I know that Michael Crichton was a hack with some weird hang-ups but pointing that out over and over isn't really entertaining or why I started listening to this podcast, no matter how many  s about nerds they drop while doing it.
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Jan 24, 2017 19:40
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Guy Mann posted:Woof, that Timeline ep was a miss. I really don't like their recent trend of picking more well-known books that aren't really outrageous enough to be entertaining to just describe and dissect on their own and then also forgetting to make jokes and just taking potshots at the author and readers instead. I thought you started listening to this podcast because you were running out of things to complain endlessly about on this website.
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Jan 24, 2017 20:43
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Guy Mann posted:Woof, that Timeline ep was a miss. I really don't like their recent trend of picking more well-known books that aren't really outrageous enough to be entertaining to just describe and dissect on their own and then also forgetting to make jokes and just taking potshots at the author and readers instead. could you please never post again
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Jan 24, 2017 21:30
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Guy Mann posted:Woof, that Timeline ep was a miss. I really don't like their recent trend of picking more well-known books that aren't really outrageous enough to be entertaining I thought it was a pretty good episode, and Timeline is definitely a bad enough book to make fun of.
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Jan 25, 2017 03:27
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I will chime in and say I prefer when it's not just pot shots at airport fiction. I like the weird poo poo I've never heard of.
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Jan 25, 2017 03:35
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Drunkboxer posted:I will chime in and say I prefer when it's not just pot shots at airport fiction. I like the weird poo poo I've never heard of. I like both. The mass market hits that are terrible balance nicely with the horrifying trainwrecks. Also, they read my letter! 
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Drunkboxer posted:I will chime in and say I prefer when it's not just pot shots at airport fiction. I like the weird poo poo I've never heard of. Hey man, I will not have you taking trash about Airport.
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Jan 25, 2017 05:24
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My quest will not end until they do an exposé on the Yummy Mummy.
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They need Mobute on again, he always brings the best weird poo poo.
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