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Interesting. According to the official Facebook page (reverting/updating their profile picture to the original one), the podcast isn't on the Slideshow network anymore.
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MisterBibs posted:Interesting. According to the official Facebook page (reverting/updating their profile picture to the original one), the podcast isn't on the Slideshow network anymore. This got mentioned upthread; the Sideshow Network went out of business.
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Hey Eric if you're listening, Man in the High Castle does get better in the second season. They send the members of the love triangle to three separate countries. Also Rufus Sewell is great
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Dredd deserved better and a sequel would have been great. 
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Hey Eric if you're listening, Man in the High Castle does get better in the second season. They send the members of the love triangle to three separate countries. Yeah season 1 is a very soft recommend but season 2 is just flat-out fantastic, especially once the titular Man shows up. And he's not wrong that Rufus Sewell is the best part of it.
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Is Rufus Sewell ever not the best part of whatever he's in?
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GrandpaPants posted:Is Rufus Sewell ever not the best part of whatever he's in? Richard O'Brien and Kiefer Sutherland were both better than him in Dark City, but that's a very slim margin since everyone in that movie is fantastic.
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ghost emoji posted:I liked the part where they were explaining that you had to have money/riches to get into the afterlife, that's why you built a pyramid, and you just hear Eric whisper in amazement "you built a pyramid?" Very stupid moment but I laughed. Unlike most people, eric displays absolutely zero fear of saying the dumbest jokes that come to him. It's an asset.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I watched the movie right before listening to the episode, and in retrospect, while the whole whitewashing argument had some merit, literally nothing about the movie was accurate to real life in any way and the movie was a piece of poo poo so who really even cares? Setting aside any contentious arguments about who should be allowed to play what culture, one of the big arguments against whitewashing is that it takes away acting roles from actors who aren't white, in a film industry that (to use the US film industry as an example) already casts far more white actors than is representative of the actual demographics of the US. So if you're a black actor, for example, you're already (controlling for all other factors) less likely to be hired in the film industry explicitly because of the colour of your skin. By changing the few roles that, for whatever reason, probably could have explicitly asked for actors who aren't white (if it's adapting a work and the character isn't white, for instance) into roles for white actors, it just restricts the field of acting further for people who aren't white. The argument is of course that audiences only want white actors and Will Smith (and maybe not even Will Smith anymore!) but at the end of the day I think the only people with the responsibility to change who gets cast in films and address a pretty openly racist hiring policy are the people actually making the films, and a good step toward addressing these discriminatory hiring policies would be to maybe take the tiny step of not going out of their way to change the ethnicity of a character just so they don't have to hire someone who isn't white. Or you can believe the same Hollywood that keeps giving Jeremy Renner leading roles when they tell you they're 100% certain that making a film about an asian woman or some black people would sink the studio.
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The problem with Gods of Egypt isn't that they were white people, it's that they weren't animorphs
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precision posted:It's OK To Be White In A Movie What makes you so sure that Yahushua el Bayt Lahm wasn't a tall blond man with piercing blue eyes?
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Why even make a movie set in or around Egypt if you're just going to cast the whitest people possible? Just because the film is made up garbage that no one saw doesn't magically excuse a lovely practice that has been going on in Hollywood since its inception.
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precision posted:On the other hand, why not cast whoever the director thinks can do the job the best They cast Gerard Butler as one of the lead roles. Besides, the backlash months before the movie even came out helped it crash and burn.
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precision posted:On the other hand, why not cast whoever the director thinks can do the job the best Agreed #whitepower
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well why not posted:Unlike most people, eric displays absolutely zero fear of saying the dumbest jokes that come to him. It's an asset. It kind of is... He does "amiable doofus" pretty well, and it gives the other people more room to be caustic. (I think I'm thinking of the right guy. I don't have voices attached to names yet. I originally thought one of the guys was doing a good Kevin Spacey impression, and then later it seemed like, "Wow he is really committed to this," before I realized it was a fully separate person who just sounds like Kevin Spacey.)
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Sax Solo posted:It kind of is... He does "amiable doofus" pretty well, and it gives the other people more room to be caustic. Amiable doofus sounds more like Sajdak. Eric has the exact tone of voice and cadence as Norm McDonald.
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JT Smiley posted:Why even make a movie set in or around Egypt if you're just going to cast the whitest people possible? Just because the film is made up garbage that no one saw doesn't magically excuse a lovely practice that has been going on in Hollywood since its inception. I mean, it's not like there aren't silly white people gods you could use instead and only have to change the names of the characters. Goddamn Mug Ruith is starting poo poo with Luchtaine in god land! precision posted:Oh I was just making a general point not meant to refer to Gods of Egypt. The system is set up to help white people, because it's American. Just letting things cruise along, awarding the best people in the system is going to do nothing but continue the issue of all these white people with roles and nothing for non-white people. Unless you're Denzel, or Will Smith, or something. It's a Catch 22 situation akin to the lack of female leads in many genres, because nobody has made money off a female lead movie in the genre, which no one has ever made because there's no money in it. Plus just wanting the best actor for the job assumes that cinematic parts have actoral soulmates. Either lots of people can turn in a good performance for a part, or we hold out for Anthony Hopkins and Helen Miran to play every single roll. Sir Anthony, we really need to get this Resident Evil movie going, but those fuckers in wardrobe keep insisting none of the Alice costumes fit you. Would you be willing to trade with Helen and play Wesker instead? Edit: Though there is a certain honesty in casting Gerard Butler as Set, a god whose dominion includes foreigners.
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Gyges posted:Unless you're Denzel, or Will Smith, or something. Even if you're Denzel or Will Smith. The Sony hacks revealed an exec warning people not to cast him because "black leads don't play well overseas" and Will Smith has said he had to personally petition a studio to send him to Cannes to promote something for the same reason. Hollywood is wrong about international audiences by the way. Denzel's "Equalizer" did like 3 times the foreign numbers of Keanu Reeves very similar "John Wick"
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precision posted:Oh I was just making a general point not meant to refer to Gods of Egypt. Actually Rowling never said what anyone's ethnicity was in any of the books. We just all assumed they were white.
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Evil Mastermind posted:Actually Rowling never said what anyone's ethnicity was in any of the books. We just all assumed they were white. At least the main cast, as shown in the book covers, were white, but yeah there were a whole lot of characters whose ethnicity was never mentioned and people just assumed were white (some that wouldn't even make sense, like the Patil twins or the guy whose last name is Zabini)
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GrandpaPants posted:I disliked them disliking The Raid. They have correct opinions about John Wick so it's ok. I hope they never make a Dredd sequel because it would make this one much less special
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MariusLecter posted:Dredd deserved better and a sequel would have been great. Getting to be a cult classic that's forever remembered fondly is such a better fate than $85 million, a bad sequel and then a few DTV sequels that bring the whole thing down so far that you'll refuse to admit you like the first one.
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precision posted:On the other hand, why not cast whoever the director thinks can do the job the best because if that's how it worked it means for all of cinema history it just happens that white people are just inherently better actors than any minority, even in stories about that minority. Like, either racism is a thing that exists and you can try to buck it at least a bit, or somehow there just are literally no good minority actors save for a rare few.
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precision posted:On the other hand, why not cast whoever the director thinks can do the job the best Unless the best person for the job is "Mohammad so-and-so from such-and-such", in which case you can't cast him because he's just not marketable enough.
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One of my favorite things about this podcast is that the guys just get stuff like this, even if some of their listeners don't.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:One of my favorite things about this podcast is that the guys just get stuff like this, even if some of their listeners don't. After years of trying I finally got my wife hooked on this podcast and she loves the fact that the crew not only gets it, but calls movies out for sexist/racist bullshit.
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precision posted:What? I think what I'm saying is in line with them verbally rolling their eyes at the guy saying "whitewashing 101" out loud. I specifically pointed out how I agree that Wesley Snipes would make a great Joker and also that the explosion of white nerds would be huge and stupid in order to try and head off where this has ended up going. Lol I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the "Moooom come jerk me off!" twitter guys. But if you want to bring it up, you're saying some well-meaning but ignorant things. We actually have a really great forum for discussing race now that might help you grasp the subtleties. I don't think we have a race and casting thread yet. Maybe you could start one!
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I kinda suspect Gods Of Egypt was a hasty copy & paste over a script titled something about norse gods when they realised that the Thor movies exist.
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The director is Egyptian so it's possible that this was just a movie about his culture that he'd always wanted to make, and that movie just turned out to be not very good.
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well why not posted:I kinda suspect Gods Of Egypt was a hasty copy & paste over a script titled something about norse gods when they realised that the Thor movies exist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl7Qk4RJFLs The thing I always loved about it was how the game was set up as the first part of a trilogy that never happened because the game sold terribly. Oh, and every time you died there was an unskippable 25 second cutscene.
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I played the demo for that, it seemed pretty fun in a mindless way. The setting was very cool (you played as a not-quite fully cyborg Baldur) and the graphics seemed nice. Weird controls, though. I also hated the 30s respawn animation of the Valkyrie rising up.
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Listening to old episodes, I think Easy Rider 2 is the perfect We Hate Movies episode: the movie sounds dire, their analysis at the beginning of the episode and throughout is well reasoned and thought out, and their jokes are on point and incredible, from the mannequin complaining about being put in Macy's to the Hitler estate not licensing the swastika because they had no faith in the project
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Calaveron posted:Listening to old episodes, I think Easy Rider 2 is the perfect We Hate Movies episode: the movie sounds dire, their analysis at the beginning of the episode and throughout is well reasoned and thought out, and their jokes are on point and incredible, from the mannequin complaining about being put in Macy's to the Hitler estate not licensing the swastika because they had no faith in the project Their commentary was like a beautiful blue sky Right before 9/11
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