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Lprsti99 posted:You're not 'getting rumbled,' the mission is about to expire and if you don't launch it'll be gone.
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Yeah, I saw that post afterward. Can you take screenshots of the squad screen showing time left, and does the alert say anything different?
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Jan 26, 2017 10:18
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I just loaded an earlier save and it's bringing up different results now, but what was happening is that teams of 6 were getting stuck at 11% on infiltrations of what I assumed at least were new missions with 5 guys on intel and 1 on recruit.
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Jan 26, 2017 10:24
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jBrereton posted:I just loaded an earlier save and it's bringing up different results now, but what was happening is that teams of 6 were getting stuck at 11% on infiltrations of what I assumed at least were new missions with 5 guys on intel and 1 on recruit. Using any other mods? Specifically Avenger Events either with or without the LW2 addon? I was having a bug with that one where construction and research would get paused and never finish (running into negative hours left) because it was trying to create an event and wouldn't let other things run. Other than that,  . First release.
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Jan 26, 2017 10:36
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Lprsti99 posted:Using any other mods? Specifically Avenger Events either with or without the LW2 addon? I was having a bug with that one where construction and research would get paused and never finish (running into negative hours left) because it was trying to create an event and wouldn't let other things run. Other than that,
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Jan 26, 2017 11:00
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Dunno then. My bad for coming off like I thought you were dumb.
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Jan 26, 2017 11:07
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I think armor is way too expensive given the game's current rate of giving you supplies. 35 supplies is really high when you need to end up buying 20+ sets.
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Jan 26, 2017 11:27
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Panzeh posted:I think armor is way too expensive given the game's current rate of giving you supplies. 35 supplies is really high when you need to end up buying 20+ sets. That's an artifact of faceless infiltrators being way too strong right now. Losing 100 supplies in a 140 supply monthly haul was kind of crippling and that was my first month. Beagle's just had this issue in his stream as well, with the infiltrator taking fully 80% of his monthly income.
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Jan 26, 2017 11:58
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Lunethex posted:Anyone have some experience to relate on the holotargeter? sharpshooters are interesting right now because they are good with enough investment. I don't think they are bad, but they play a much different role than they did in vanilla. Another reason with NCE, the GTS is so important is because getting a natural low aim sharpshooter is just poo poo. Also without a stock, a drat good ground sniper is also less effective. I do wish sharpshooters had an option for another primary weapon other than the sniper rifle. I've been actually enjoying the utility sharpshooters start providing around early mid to late game. A few builds I've had good success with: Holo Targeting - Rapid Targeting, Hi Def, Phantom, Independent Tracking, Conceal, Multi - basically the best officer class build. This guy is here to buff the poo poo out of the squad and give good crits and aim bonuses to the squad. long watch cannon - Rapid Targeting, drat Good Ground, Long Watch, Centre Mass, Vital Point Targeting, Hunters Instincts, Alpha Mike Foxtrot - huge damage output. I'm also looking at a few snapshot builds but haven't been too happy with that just yet. Sharpshooters are also kind of meh on most mission types, but I feel like they are purpose built for haven advisors and officers in LW2.
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Jan 26, 2017 13:37
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I'd rather have my assaults supervising havens, they're well suited for faceless missions. I agree with the rest of your message though, targeting is far from weak. Rapid targeting is a must imo.
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Jan 26, 2017 13:46
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I like assault haven advisers as well, but sometimes i want my shotgun assholes on my actual missions. Early game, sharpshooters aren't doing much for me anyway where as assault are particularly strong against drones.
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Jan 26, 2017 14:30
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Any ETA on the first patch? I keep getting the camera bug where it gets stuck under the avenger when I return from a mission and it crashes the game.
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Jan 26, 2017 14:33
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High aim prospects are better off being rangers than sharpshooters. If you can get a favorable AWC ability they can absolutely dominate.
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Jan 26, 2017 14:53
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Demiurge4 posted:That's an artifact of faceless infiltrators being way too strong right now. Losing 100 supplies in a 140 supply monthly haul was kind of crippling and that was my first month. Looking at the outpost ini, that's like three or four faceless. What if there are no rebels in the bases, it's just faceless all the way down?
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Jan 26, 2017 15:41
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Anybody else getting the stuck-under-the-avenger-after-a-mission bug? Never got it before loading up Long War but now its happening after like every third mission. Anybody ever find a fix for that? This happened to me consistently when I had the uniforms manager mod and stopped entirely when I disabled it.
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Jan 26, 2017 15:43
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jfood posted:Looking at the outpost ini, that's like three or four faceless. My first two months (one region then two regions) have had zero income (maybe even negative), with no supply drop generated presumably due to this. I think I've recruited additional resistance guys in my first outpost, and another four in the new region due to a jailbreak. I suppose that's a campaign restart?
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Jan 26, 2017 15:57
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Incy posted:My first two months (one region then two regions) have had zero income (maybe even negative), with no supply drop generated presumably due to this. I think I've recruited additional resistance guys in my first outpost, and another four in the new region due to a jailbreak. Same here. Virtually no supplies for the first four months, despite killing two infiltrators. At this point, I'd rather edit my save game than restart -- I would adding 250 supplies be a straightforward change?
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Jan 26, 2017 16:12
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Smiling Knight posted:Same here. Virtually no supplies for the first four months, despite killing two infiltrators. At this point, I'd rather edit my save game than restart -- I would adding 250 supplies be a straightforward change? Enable console, and then I think the command is additem supplies 250.
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Jan 26, 2017 16:15
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jfood posted:Looking at the outpost ini, that's like three or four faceless. All of XCOM are Faceless, just none of them realise that everyone else is. The entire rebellion is aliens trying to set up the remaining human forces for a fall, not knowing there are literally no humans still fighting  I don't think Faceless should be there from the start either. The % change planned for 1.1 helps with the effect not being so bad, but just thematically it seems like it should be an alien response to a growing Xcom threat. It would let you get your feet under you at the start of the game, make some progress, and then the aliens push back. It seems like maybe you should eventually learn how to stop the Faceless infiltration, I mean Battle scanners are still a thing, right? Just scan people who join up, or take a blood sample like in DS9/The Thing once you learn about the problem. Then maybe you could actually use the other adviser types and free up your troops for offensive missions.
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Jan 26, 2017 16:22
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Faceless infiltrators should probably be a dark event type.
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Jan 26, 2017 16:28
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And they should be toned down in prevlence. Literally everyone has them from the get-go which feels to me like they're tuned to appear way too often.
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Jan 26, 2017 16:31
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Long War has bullshit mechanics that need toning down because its ridiculously unfun to deal with? Say it ain't so? Seriously, i'm so annoyed that the long war devs have just as many really loving good ideas as they have bad ones.
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Jan 26, 2017 16:35
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Darkrenown posted:All of XCOM are Faceless, just none of them realise that everyone else is. The entire rebellion is aliens trying to set up the remaining human forces for a fall, not knowing there are literally no humans still fighting
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Jan 26, 2017 16:42
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Incy posted:I suppose that's a campaign restart? Don't be ridiculous, just immerse yourself in the tacticality of it all.
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Jan 26, 2017 17:10
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jfood posted:Don't be ridiculous, just immerse yourself in the tacticality of it all. Tactical console prompt action
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Jan 26, 2017 17:14
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I think it's normal that your first supply drop gives you nothing. Just clean up the Avenger, sell your increasingly huge stack of stocks and contact more areas.
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Incy posted:Tactical console prompt action Adapting your strategy while tying up a small portion of their inifinite infiltration teams, I like it! Sun Tzu would be proud.
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Has anyone determined the impact of the Shinobi skill Tradecraft? I picked it on all 3 of my Shinobi, assuming that the word 'significant' being used in the description meant that it would give me noticeable reductions in infiltration times. Because I put it on all 3, I have no baseline to compare it to, but it seems like the bonus isn't applying? Either that, or the bonus is way smaller than I would expect it to be.
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jfood posted:Adapting your strategy while tying up a small portion of their inifinite infiltration teams, I like it! Sun Tzu would be proud. Captain Kirk, too. Let's Kobayashi Maru this thing.
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This is way more Tholian Web... just a steady stream of clay people coming at your from all directions, boxing you in then robbing you of supplies and joy.
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Loren posted:Has anyone determined the impact of the Shinobi skill Tradecraft? I picked it on all 3 of my Shinobi, assuming that the word 'significant' being used in the description meant that it would give me noticeable reductions in infiltration times. Because I put it on all 3, I have no baseline to compare it to, but it seems like the bonus isn't applying? Either that, or the bonus is way smaller than I would expect it to be. The bonus is applied to the base Shinobi infiltration rate, which is lowish to begin with. Lemme find the Pavonis thread on the subject of infiltration time reductions. http://www.pavonisinteractive.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=23721
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LW2 will be perfect for me at patch 1.5 when they finally tone down some of the geoscape mechanics. I don't really have any problems with the tactical layer. Couple of the perks suck or have extremely situational benefits. Why would I ever want the officer's 4 damage resistance against explosions? The rare chance you don't manage to murk a grenadier? Dongicus fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jan 26, 2017 |
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Dongicus posted:LW2 will be perfect for me at patch 1.5 when they finally tone down some of the geoscape mechanics. Flamin' car?
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You're right that's a good use for it but it's not very often that you have 4 soldiers all takin cover behind a car. I'd take the other perk anyday.
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Dongicus posted:LW2 will be perfect for me at patch 1.5 when they finally tone down some of the geoscape mechanics. I see you have yet to meet ADVENT rocketeers...
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I've met one but he got vaporized with shotgun fire. Do flashes stop them from rocketing you?
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Dongicus posted:I've met one but he got vaporized with shotgun fire. Do flashes stop them from rocketing you? Maybe, but it only takes one time you forget to take them down to regret your decision.
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Engineers. Those SHITS. They loving launch flashbangs, disorienting my entire column.
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Apoplexy posted:Engineers. Those SHITS. They loving launch flashbangs, disorienting my entire column. Advent can flashbang you in LW2? Pavonis have finally gone too far. I am not joking.
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Dongicus posted:LW2 will be perfect for me at patch 1.5 when they finally tone down some of the geoscape mechanics. When your haywire fails on the MEC and your entire squad misses their 65% shots on it and it launches missiles at you, so every mission 
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