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Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016


IMHO that is far from them Archering it.

You guys are reaching on that.

The Other bit thought (nebula) is 100% ripped off.

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DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

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So, no word at all about all the walkouts/layoffs supposedly today?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

DigitalMocking posted:

So, no word at all about all the walkouts/layoffs supposedly today?

ComfyPants
Mar 20, 2002

Sarsapariller posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUTyiMjjf7w

Man, look at all the progress that Dual Universe is making! With that many amazing mechanics in place, I'm sure they've had a team of 300+ people working for at least 10 years.

...Oops! My bad, it's a tiny French studio, with a 500k euro kickstarter, and 7 months of development time.

They already have actual rocks that aren't just mapped into the ground, day/night cycles, and planetary landings.

It's almost like a well-managed company with a roadmap and someone at the helm who's not an ADD-afflicted child can do great things without $140 million.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Sabreseven posted:

Oh god no, if there's one thing I am utterly afraid of, it's the ever present threat of dormant volcanoes, especially if there is up to and including one whole hundred of them. Be very careful of the immediate danger commandos, especially when visiting.

I grew up in a village that was located right next to a dormat volcano that has lain dormant for nearly 30,000 years (this is actually true), I'll never forget the silence, the complete lack of activity, and worst of all, the lack of lava flows and devastation normally associated with ACTIVE volcanoes. :shrug:

Hell, I hiked across Kilauea's caldera during one of it's dormant phases. And it is well known for being pretty active.

DapperDon
Sep 7, 2016

Scruffpuff posted:

This is CIG. They'll release 3.0 "come hell or high water" and trumpet this as a triumph, but of course "to make good on our promise of 3.0 we had to remove some of the features that weren't quite at the quality level we're comfortable with" etc. so 3.0 will release with no features at all, except a celebratory ship sale*.

*does not include ship

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat
So did mass walkouts or whatever happen like the agent was talking about earlier?

e: and of course I ask this just a few posts after someone else already did. That's what I get for skimming the thread

Foo Diddley fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Jan 28, 2017

Lack of Gravitas
Oct 11, 2012

Grimey Drawer

DigitalMocking posted:

So, no word at all about all the walkouts/layoffs supposedly today?

Sandi and Chris have gotten wise to how we minions of Derek operate - hence, Chris putting the archered Nebula in yesterdays newsletter, knowing it would distract us from what is really going on wrt the layoffs

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

DigitalMocking posted:

So, no word at all about all the walkouts/layoffs supposedly today?

Most CIG rumours are made up :ssh:

DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

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Tokamak posted:

Most CIG rumours are made up :ssh:

Shut the gently caress up with your shilling.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

The Titanic posted:

The emo goth in me says it's always night. I will need advanced Skynet grade AI to figure out what a night day cycle is.

<offers a pat on the back and a chocolate chocolate chunk cookie made with added squid ink>

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

DigitalMocking posted:

Shut the gently caress up with your shilling.

You can read more about it in my July blog :smug:

grimcreaper
Jan 7, 2012

Tokamak posted:

You can read more about it in my July blog :smug:

You are writing way ahead of the game at this point. I cant wait for your september blog. Please post it on september 29th for my birthday.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Please show :siren: THE JULY BLOG :siren: the respect it deserves with the proper formatting.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Samizdata posted:

Hell, I hiked across Kilauea's caldera during one of it's dormant phases. And it is well known for being pretty active.

Isn't that called the Lesnick Rim? Brave man you are.

Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

answer the call

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spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

https://twitter.com/banditloaf/status/825150362638094336

https://twitter.com/discolando/status/825118900660555780

I wonder what they'll do there...

grimcreaper
Jan 7, 2012


Ben at the front everyone else crammed into the very back.

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

Foo Diddley posted:

So did mass walkouts or whatever happen like the agent was talking about earlier?

e: and of course I ask this just a few posts after someone else already did. That's what I get for skimming the thread
it did and like every other piece of news about this poo poo project, it isn't being covered by anyone

makes u think

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

grimcreaper posted:

Ben at the front everyone else crammed into the very back.

I thought Ben wasn't going, since he doesn't hold any role with the community anymore?

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

grimcreaper posted:

Ben at the front everyone else crammed into the very back.

Lesnick pulls a DB Cooper with the 10K in cash and a box of Wing Commander poo poo. Unlike DB Cooper, he utilized all 4 parachutes.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

The Titanic posted:

The programmers are hosed.

There's no way to build the dream game because their talent pool is devastated and the fuzzy, incomprehensible and inadequate designs that fail to work together just don't. It's a broken concept with no thought outside of "oh I have this idea!" from the CEO.

The ONLY people they have left who can produce content is artists.

Now imagine you have to show fake progress, and pretend to be making headway, 5 years into a hopeless project. Now also imagine you are addicted to drugs and money and care nothing about the actual game or your workers. You just want to feel like Scarface 24/7.

You try leaning on your programmers but they can't help you. Programming is actually hard.

So you have your art department. They can whip up poo poo fast, they can build a new model or a new movie to showcase "features" still in "production". They can make art that feigns progress.

Now imagine you are the artists. The whole work load of the company is on your shoulders. There's no game to show, there's no fun gameplay to make things better. There's art. Your art. And the boss is making demands 24/7. From "build me a loving sandworm for my video!" to "we need a loving space motorcycle!" to "I want a Jupiter mining base!" and "concept ships! Concept ships!"

You're going to get burned the gently caress out. I imagine it started off good, where they made stuff and cared. They may have GISd stuff, but they'd put effort into masking it, and it'd never be something from the first 20 results of "moon base" or "nebula".

The art backbone of CIG is showing cracks. Once that's gone, CIG will have literally nothing to fall back on. Every rushed, anger-inspired art piece is one more straw closer to the whole mess coming down. The artists are getting frustrated and I bet they are hugely overwhelmed and overworked, and frankly probably just a little bit upset with how they are treated.

So yeah, gonna use pick #4 in the GIS search for "nebula". Is it ripped off from another game? Don't care, that's what the crop tool is for.

Keep on doing what you're doing, CIG! Continue to be gamings biggest embarrassment for the next couple decades! :allears:

Wow. For YOU to get so hardcore...

Fargin Icehole
Feb 19, 2011

Pet me.
Is Scam citizen still a thing?

Chris Roberts is the George Lucas of games. So goddamn out of touch, for some reason he is still relevant, because he's known for poo poo he did 20-30 years ago.

It's funny to me, that someone like Keiji Inafune cashed in on nostalgia, and handled it really poorly (Mighty No.9 and Recore, and the other projects before MN9 was even loving made), and we got somebody like Chris Roberts who is known for less popular stuff, and he made 137 million more than Keiji Inafune, and he's doing the exact same thing

Fargin Icehole fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Jan 28, 2017

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat

TheAgent posted:

it did and like every other piece of news about this poo poo project, it isn't being covered by anyone

makes u think

I'm sure it's just perfectly normal turnover. Most game companies go through employees quicker than the local McDonalds, right?

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Colostomy Bag posted:

Isn't that called the Lesnick Rim? Brave man you are.

I told you I was hardcore! I TOLD YOU!

Fargin Icehole
Feb 19, 2011

Pet me.

Fargin Icehole posted:

Is Scam citizen still a thing?

Chris Roberts is the George Lucas of games. So goddamn out of touch, for some reason he is still relevant, because he's known for poo poo he did 20-30 years ago.

It's funny to me, that someone like Keiji Inafune cashed in on nostalgia, and handled it really poorly (Mighty No.9 and Recore, and the other projects before MN9 was even loving made), and we got somebody like Chris Roberts who is known for less popular stuff, and he made 137 million more than Keiji Inafune, and he's doing the exact same thing

Don't you loving idiots think this is funny? This guy, THIS GUY. He was trusted with some half-assed vision. Somehow he convinced people that even though poo poo like Elite Dangerous was already made, that he convinced people that Star Citizen was going to be the best thing ever made, and that ALSO, somehow, with all the T-poses, the clipping, the lovely sales tactics, the slapped together mechanics, the shallow exploration types, the nebulous and empty letters from the websites promising features that they knew would never happen, more T-poses, the community willing to blame people from another website or another person, for their own failures...

This poo poo is absurd, and nobody is willing to listen to me. How loving stupid are these people, backing a project with money that could be better served towards Oh i don't know, a loving house payment? And they want to justify it with "I'm BUILDING A DREEEAM"


This is nothing compared to any other ambitious kickstarter dream. Nothing compares to this

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

DigitalMocking posted:

So, no word at all about all the walkouts/layoffs supposedly today?

Dr. Smart has to format that,and provide links ; he has difficulties to keep up with such a high number of layoffs. He will make a new blogpost but don't wait for it for at least July 2015.

ManofManyAliases
Mar 21, 2016
ToastOfManySmarts


Can't post for 3 hours!

Foo Diddley posted:

So did mass walkouts or whatever happen like the agent was talking about earlier?

e: and of course I ask this just a few posts after someone else already did. That's what I get for skimming the thread

No - absolutely not. Just more FUD to get the thread moving a bit.

Fargin Icehole
Feb 19, 2011

Pet me.
It's pathetic. It's loving pathetic.

I cannot believe how effectively they managed to trick people into giving them money, and they are still around.

They hosed everything up for crowdfunding. I cannot believe how absurd this poo poo is

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

I finished the page and I feel so unoriginal. Done and done and done again.

boviscopophobic
Feb 5, 2016

TheAgent posted:

it did and like every other piece of news about this poo poo project, it isn't being covered by anyone

makes u think

You know what doesn't get covered? Things that didn't happen. SC is stronger than ever and will be the pinnacle of human civilization.

Fargin Icehole
Feb 19, 2011

Pet me.
Yeah yeah, have a post saying we shouldn't doxx people, Ohh nooom the indecency...that was never there??? Other than Derek Smart, who clearly hosed up, and is no longer mod? I don't know.

This thread is pure poo poo, and it's retreading the same topics over and over until somebody, ANYBODY, remotely fucks up in this stupid company


gently caress cattes, and gently caress you, I ain't paying no tax. People know I hate cattes in this thread, and people love me

ManofManyAliases
Mar 21, 2016
ToastOfManySmarts


Can't post for 3 hours!

Fargin Icehole posted:

It's pathetic. It's loving pathetic.

I cannot believe how effectively they managed to trick people into giving them money, and they are still around.

They hosed everything up for crowdfunding. I cannot believe how absurd this poo poo is

Well, aside from a bunch of hullabaloo from a dead gay comedy forum, there's really not to much dissent from over 1 million people who have registered accounts. Perhaps if there were, you'd see more insightful information about the inner workings of a private company. Other than that, no investigations, no calls to cease business, no .... well, nothing at all!

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

ManofManyAliases posted:

Well, aside from a bunch of hullabaloo from a dead gay comedy forum, there's really not to much dissent from over 1 million people who have registered accounts. Perhaps if there were, you'd see more insightful information about the inner workings of a private company. Other than that, no investigations, no calls to cease business, no .... well, nothing at all!

Not even a game.

ManofManyAliases
Mar 21, 2016
ToastOfManySmarts


Can't post for 3 hours!

Fargin Icehole posted:

Yeah yeah, have a post saying we shouldn't doxx people, Ohh nooom the indecency...that was never there??? Other than Derek Smart, who clearly hosed up, and is no longer mod? I don't know.

This thread is pure poo poo, and it's retreading the same topics over and over until somebody, ANYBODY, remotely fucks up in this stupid company


gently caress cattes, and gently caress you, I ain't paying no tax. People know I hate cattes in this thread, and people love me

This is actually a very good assessment of this thread and the other 6665-pager. 300+ people working, someone fucks up and leaves or is fired and life continues. CIG is engineering new tech and recycling some old to bring it into modernity. Some people are jealous and others are skeptical. And yet, they hack away diligently and on a daily basis.

Fargin Icehole
Feb 19, 2011

Pet me.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Well, aside from a bunch of hullabaloo from a dead gay comedy forum, there's really not to much dissent from over 1 million people who have registered accounts. Perhaps if there were, you'd see more insightful information about the inner workings of a private company. Other than that, no investigations, no calls to cease business, no .... well, nothing at all!

You know what? i'm gonna agree with one thing and ONLY THAT.

All we're getting is some so called scandalous poo poo that CIG is totes going to get sued by smarts, and it's been like a year an a half. I think ur cool Dr smart, but you gotta chill on those blogs.


The thing that i do not agree with you is that, you're telling me these guys are making some unbelievable tech that will turn the gaming world upside down.

That is not, happening. That poo poo, is not happening. Whatever it is that they are doing right now, is not new at all, and goes with the sentiment i said before how Chris Roberts is out of touch.

ManofManyAliases
Mar 21, 2016
ToastOfManySmarts


Can't post for 3 hours!

Zzr posted:

Not even a game.

Ok - an alpha version of a game-to-be. Whatever man.

dr slut
Jan 26, 2003

ManofManyAliases posted:

there's really not to much dissent from over 1 million people who have registered accounts.


Wikipedia posted:

The organization (Church of Scientology) has said that it has anywhere from eight million to fifteen million members worldwide.

Sillybones
Aug 10, 2013

go away,
spooky skeleton,
go away

ManofManyAliases posted:

Well, aside from a bunch of hullabaloo from a dead gay comedy forum, there's really not to much dissent from over 1 million people who have registered accounts. Perhaps if there were, you'd see more insightful information about the inner workings of a private company. Other than that, no investigations, no calls to cease business, no .... well, nothing at all!

That last stuff is dereks shtick. We are mostly here for the ride and to warn people about giving any more money to this money-fire.

Do you honestly believe this game is coming along nicely? I figure you are playing the long con. Did you ever give your 3.0 predictions like people asked?

Sappo569 posted:

Lol holy poo poo it's so blatant

I used to think they had talented artists working there. But it's clear from the bottom to the top it's just pure incompetence

How can a manager look at that and be like yep that's good enough for a 140m dollar company release it

That isn't fair. The artist isn't at fault. The people who released it are.

That goes to everyone. This is a person who has a very specific role in the industry and it is well known this role collages poo poo together to pump out concepts. The reason they spend so little effort on them is because the majority will be thrown away and never used. They are showing a feeling of a place. It is in no way meant to be shared on the internet or plastered onto a 6 foot wall scroll on display in the nice-side of office. The lame part may be that you take too much from other games and suddenly you have a fractured and uninspired visual style... oh.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Decent salary managing a multi-million dollar marketing campaign for a company making a revolutionary game? Sounds good. Sign me up.

Are your degrees equally as made up?

Alternative: He means the tickling-fetish porn star part.

grimcreaper posted:

Ben at the front everyone else crammed into the very back.

You put the Ben between the wings. Same deal with buses, you put them over the wheels.

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Sillybones
Aug 10, 2013

go away,
spooky skeleton,
go away

Fargin Icehole posted:

You know what? i'm gonna agree with one thing and ONLY THAT.

All we're getting is some so called scandalous poo poo that CIG is totes going to get sued by smarts, and it's been like a year an a half. I think ur cool Dr smart, but you gotta chill on those blogs.


The thing that i do not agree with you is that, you're telling me these guys are making some unbelievable tech that will turn the gaming world upside down.

That is not, happening. That poo poo, is not happening. Whatever it is that they are doing right now, is not new at all, and goes with the sentiment i said before how Chris Roberts is out of touch.

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