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bloodychill posted:I like my games to be short, expensive, and garbage, ama The Order 1886 philosophy
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Jan 29, 2017 21:43
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veni veni veni posted:The Order 1886 philosophy Also see Devil May Cry 2 and Star Ocean 5
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Jan 29, 2017 21:46
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bloodychill posted:Also see Devil May Cry 2 and Star Ocean 5 I'd like to hear someone who truely believes it give a passionate defence for Devil May Cry 2.
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Jan 29, 2017 21:48
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I checked to see what Ready at Dawn was doing these days, after they were saying that gameplay was getting in the way of their storytelling for the Order:
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Jan 29, 2017 21:48
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Ramagamma posted:I'd like to hear someone who truely believes it give a passionate defence for Devil May Cry 2. You'd probably need to get a hold of some old Diesel marketing dude
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Jan 29, 2017 21:50
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I've always been kind of curious if they'd end up with a second chance with The Order. I think it sold pretty well on hype alone but Sony probably knows that is the only reason it sold and selling a sequel would be an uphill battle. Not curious in the sense that I'd actually play the Order 2 though.
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Jan 29, 2017 21:52
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I'd play it for $10 like the first one.
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Jan 29, 2017 21:55
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Soul Glo posted:Did you time yourself/is there a timer? 'Cause I don't really remember the game actually being very much longer than that. I Redboxed it and played it one Saturday when it was new; there wasn't a ton there. $60 was about $30 too much, imo. I didn't time it but I think timing a game as a definition of value being time=money=value doesn't do this game (and some other games) justice. A major problem is not considering the cinematic sequences as part of the game. Based on my expectations, I thought the game was going to end just when it got good. It made me question if many reviewers even finished the game. I agree that I wouldn't recommend it at $60. However, this holds true for most games. The game has a production value which is almost unparalleled. If people are into that, then they should absolutely play it. I really like this take on the game and why it is worth reconsideration: http://www.thumbsticks.com/second-shot-the-order-1886/ The replay value from the game would come from wanting to experience the story again, much like wanting to watch a movie again. It is a great example about how sometimes good games can be buried by biases from the gaming press. It is a press filled with hardcore gamers, who play games at lightning speed, and are often white males (with their politics and historical biases). The characters and themes in the story aren't likely to hit with this audience and that is not necessarily a problem with the game. The letterbox critique in particular feels shortsighted. It would be like critiquing a third-person shooter for not being first-person. The game is designed for this viewing and playing experience. If you don't like that than you probably don't like 'genre'. I don't think it is perfect, but I am disappointed that the negative press at launch means we are unlikely to see a sequel which can a build upon a solid foundation.
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Jan 29, 2017 21:57
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If there only was some ethics in game journalism then the Order wouldn't have gotten such a bad rep
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Jan 29, 2017 22:02
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NNick posted:I didn't time it but I think timing a game as a definition of value being time=money=value doesn't do this game (and some other games) justice. A major problem is not considering the cinematic sequences as part of the game. Based on my expectations, I thought the game was going to end just when it got good. It made me question if many reviewers even finished the game. I agree that I wouldn't recommend it at $60. However, this holds true for most games. The game has a production value which is almost unparalleled. If people are into that, then they should absolutely play it. I really like this take on the game and why it is worth reconsideration: http://www.thumbsticks.com/second-shot-the-order-1886/ That's cool and good that you liked it, but beyond the length most people seemed to think the story and gameplay were really bad. I know I did. Imo despite being what amounted to I think 4 hours for me it felt like a total slog I wanted to end way before it did.
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Jan 29, 2017 22:07
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Ramagamma posted:It doesn't even work for that like me. I paid £40 for Uncharted 4 and have a very condensed, cinematic, heavily produced and ultimately fantasic 10 hours. For comparison sake, Rocket League, Binding of Isaac and Spelunky have a combined playtime of some 400 hours for me and those are 3 games you could potentially not have paid to directly own(not sure if Spelunky was ever on PS Plus). I bought all 3 at full price and adored them. Uc4 is like 15 hours isnt it?
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Jan 29, 2017 22:14
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Real hurthling! posted:Uc4 is like 15 hours isnt it? I did it in about 11 but I was playing on the easiest difficulty and punching every nameless grunt in the mouth
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Jan 29, 2017 22:23
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veni veni veni posted:I've always been kind of curious if they'd end up with a second chance with The Order. I think it sold pretty well on hype alone but Sony probably knows that is the only reason it sold and selling a sequel would be an uphill battle. Short, cinematic, single-player only shooters as a technical showpiece are facing a critical and commercial dead end this generation. The AAA market has become increasingly dominated by service-based shooters, open world games, and licensed sports games. It's the same problem that affected Quantum Break. I suppose you could greenlight the Order 2 and give it more money so it's a fully feature game. Or you could just make more map packs/DLC for Uncharted 4 which is already a successful product.
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Jan 30, 2017 00:14
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the worst part about uncharted is the uninspired cover shooting, and it seems like 3 decided to make that the majority of the game. that and drab stucco/concrete environments
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Jan 30, 2017 00:36
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I remember uncharted 3 seemingly consisted entirely of those big cinematic moments and dramatic settings like a capsizing cruise ship, a plane, a desert etc
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Jan 30, 2017 00:38
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The cruise ship sinking is still my favourite part in the series. gently caress the shoot out beforehand on Crushing though.
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Jan 30, 2017 01:31
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gravity rush 2 is fun but i am never doing another side mission after some of the horse poo poo tower defense ones that go on forever thank god i found the cancel mission option buried in the menu.
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Jan 30, 2017 01:59
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veni veni veni posted:That's cool and good that you liked it, but beyond the length most people seemed to think the story and gameplay were really bad. I know I did. Imo despite being what amounted to I think 4 hours for me it felt like a total slog I wanted to end way before it did. You're obviously a white male.
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Real hurthling! posted:gravity rush 2 is fun but i am never doing another side mission after some of the horse poo poo tower defense ones that go on forever I finished the game earlier today and it is good, but I gave up ok the sidemissions too. They are all terrible, unfun garbage that seems like it was made to spite you. Slow as gently caress tailing missions, stealth sections, platforming and combat sections where they love taking away your powers. And they all seriously overstay their welcome. The rest of the game is very enjoyable.
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Jan 30, 2017 02:47
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Can I beat Last Guardian in a week? Trying to see if I can squeeze it in before Nioh
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Jan 30, 2017 02:49
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Can I beat Last Guardian in a week? Trying to see if I can squeeze it in before Nioh I beat it in a day so probably
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Can I beat Last Guardian in a week? Trying to see if I can squeeze it in before Nioh Easily, it's probably under 10 hours if you don't search every nook and cranny.
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So what was the final verdict on Berserk Musou - looking at you Sanders, others who played it. I'm still all in, but curious if y'all thoughts changed playing it more.
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Harlock posted:So what was the final verdict on Berserk Musou - looking at you Sanders, others who played it.
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Jan 30, 2017 05:00
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Pretty interesting that GR2 and RE7 are both getting free DLCs. Then some of these MP games like Titanfall and UC4 are doing a bunch of free stuff as well. Really it's kind of smart way to get people to hold onto games. Especially after last gen where publishers were feeling almost hostile to customers with online passes and cutting parts of games out for people who bought used copies. I definetly feel more inclined to hold onto games these days than I used to.
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shooters making map dlc free is just smart because fragmenting the player base with a bunch of different map packs as well as a season pass was always super loving dumb
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The fact that BF1 is still doing that it is a big part of why I haven't bought it. Felt really burned by BF4's DLC strategy. That game had literally an insane amount of content by the end and no one played anything but the vanilla game. It was so dumb.
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veni veni veni posted:The fact that BF1 is still doing that it is a big part of why I haven't bought it. Felt really burned by BF4's DLC strategy. That game had literally an insane amount of content by the end and no one played anything but the vanilla game. It was so dumb.
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Jan 30, 2017 06:51
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I can put a down payment on a loving car on my visa but can't use it to add 22.03 so I can buy my weeb game. gently caress you Sony.
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Jan 30, 2017 06:56
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Yeah the last time I played it I wanted to play the Naval assault maps and found a single, rockin 2 vs 2 match to play. There are like 30 giant rear end maps in that game and people play 6 of them. None of the DLC maps were viable after 2 weeks.
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Alteisen posted:I can put a down payment on a loving car on my visa but can't use it to add 22.03 so I can buy my weeb game. Sony not taking foreign address credit cards is so backwards. Amazon does not care at all if you buy digital pen codes, luckily.
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veni veni veni posted:Pretty interesting that GR2 and RE7 are both getting free DLCs. Then some of these MP games like Titanfall and UC4 are doing a bunch of free stuff as well. Really it's kind of smart way to get people to hold onto games. Especially after last gen where publishers were feeling almost hostile to customers with online passes and cutting parts of games out for people who bought used copies. I definetly feel more inclined to hold onto games these days than I used to. everything they're adding in overwatch is free as well (tho you can buy cod and bf1 asking for basically double the price of the game is hosed up
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Seems like COD and BF still think they are invincible but they will get burned soon by games with superior DLC strategies.
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veni veni veni posted:Seems like COD and BF still think they are invincible but they will get burned soon by games with superior DLC strategies. They don't care. Titanfall 2 is the better game but it's borderline dead on PC and sparsely populated on console. It actually lacks new maps and premium dlc content like pretty titan skins or voices. I've had evenings in Germany/EU with 800 players in Titanfall 2 And every game mode except attrition are dead even on ps4. Cause nobody plays them because nobody queues for it. Meanwhile BF1 has 40k players on peak times. Jack-Off Lantern fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Jan 30, 2017 |
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This is a really basic question but is there an official list of what if any surround sound formats PS4 games support? Edit: or an up to date wiki or anything? Or a universal way to tell in the game itself somewhere? Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Jan 30, 2017 |
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:They don't care. Titanfall 2 is the better game but it's borderline dead on PC and sparsely populated on console. It actually lacks new maps and premium dlc content like pretty titan skins or voices. PC Titanfall 2 wasn't helped any by being stuck on the wretched turd that is Origin either.
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It's... Yeah. It's fine I guess. It works. The support is there. But releasing Titanfall 2 next to BF1 was insane, and now the game still only has one map patched and maybe 5 pieces of cosmetics. They don't even have all the premium titan skins or OS Voicepacks, which was a feature I loved about Titanfall 1. A second map is coming as is a better queue, but it's probably too late. The matchmaking on PC is so busted, without a group you'll end up getting owned by stuff you haven't unlocked the counter for.
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Samurai Sanders posted:This is a really basic question but is there an official list of what if any surround sound formats PS4 games support? Pretty certain most if not all games support Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1. Of course, how 'good' the surround mixing is done will vary per game and I'm sure some have just faked it by just duplicating the stereo channels (it's not as if 2D games need proper surround).
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Bf4, I found plenty of people playing the dlc maps. The trick is you need to find several custom servers that do a full map rotation, including dlc. Add them to your favorites. Now the new dlc map modes.... Yeah it was almost impossible to find games for it after a month.
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