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Seminal Flu posted:https://legendleasing.com/images/gallery_huge/IMG_7257.JPG635727191424675115.jpg Hmm, I definitely see it. I guess I'd call it less blue or more pink than the fenders? Can see it in the dock pictures: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...0JpejZsVUtuUGFn https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...0JpejZsVUtuUGFn I wish I had the same lighting conditions on the driver's side, but I can sorta see the same thing going on with the driver's door?: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...0JpejZsVUtuUGFn
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kimbo305 posted:Hmm, I definitely see it. I guess I'd call it less blue or more pink than the fenders? Yeah, those definitely show it, too. I hadn't really noticed the driver's side, but maybe... I didn't want to say anything while you owned it, but the whole time I was wondering if that had something to do with the tops not fitting.
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That was one heck of a ride and it sounds like the type of person that's going to enjoy the car got it. I'm a bit surprised at the cost of ownership. I wasn't expecting that much of a hit. At the end of the day cars are toys and toys cost money. My current cars are by far the nicest cars I've ever had (between my wife and I) and I plan on having them for a long time. Our annual mileage is pretty low and all things considered there isn't any reason we can't keep them for at least 8-10 years. I'd go longer than that if I'm able to. What's next? Are you going to have a cooling off period or do you have a decent idea of what's next? The only next step seems like a Porsche of some sort would be the final hurrah.
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Seminal Flu posted:Yeah, those definitely show it, too. I hadn't really noticed the driver's side, but maybe... I pointed that out to the shop, who have no real incentive to sweep a problem under the rug. They agreed with me that, if the car were bananaed front to back with the windscreen raked back a bit more, the fitment problem wouldn't look like it does. Also can't think of a story where both doors would need repainting. Branch falls on doors and top? Somewhat Heroic posted:That was one heck of a ride and it sounds like the type of person that's going to enjoy the car got it. I'm a bit surprised at the cost of ownership. I wasn't expecting that much of a hit. The trickiest decision was the exhaust, which didn't hurt sales value, but I obviously didn't recoup the cost of getting it. quote:What's next? Are you going to have a cooling off period or do you have a decent idea of what's next? The only next step seems like a Porsche of some sort would be the final hurrah. I'm looking at houses in the area still, but I'm definitely thinking about buying another car. I've been looking at 996 Turbos ever since Jymmybob got a great deal on his. That's sort of why I linked that comparison video -- I think it's relevant to how a 911 might feel coming off the 348 -- extremely well thought out, not in your face, and not exciting aurally. Hearing the 348's motor rev from 5-7k at any speed was more satisfying than doing a 3rd gear pass in the Z06 or Viper. The Viper especially -- man, that thing just sounded so brutal, in the bad sense.
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kimbo305 posted:I was expecting a perfect flush fit with the OEM top when I got it, so was surprised it was protruding more at the front corners than along the rest of the front edge. If I had to guess, I'd say the other way, for instance a rear-ender pushing into the car in front. Repaint front and rear, but avoid painting the doors because the strake painting would be a nightmare. Pure conjecture, though... maybe nothing happened. I just didn't want to put negative thoughts into your head with such a sweet ride.
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Oh yeah -- I submitted the BaT application with a reserve of 32.5, and they came back asking for it to be lowered to 30, without any explanation. Lucky that the price sailed past that. During the auction, you can lower the reserve.
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Seminal Flu posted:Now that it's over can I point out that the paint on the passenger door didn't match with the paint on the front or rear quarters? In every picture I saw (even the legendleasing's glamourshots), the color was darker. If there was something that happened that caused the door (or the front and rear quarters) to be repainted, that could explain the top not fitting. This is what separates the NSX and 348 apart for me, I wouldn't put it past Ferrari to have just said "why would you order a car in white? Eh, looks good enough" while doing the fit and finish. The 348 reeked of a car where the amenities were a "oh I guess we should do that" because why the gently caress would you take your Ferrari out when it might rain, leave the top at home instead of stowing it. Everything about the actual driving and mechanicals of the car was artwork, but then you get to the door and there's exposed screws. The NSX is a billion times better and more thought out in terms of fit and finish but it lacks something the Ferrari had in terms of driving. I hate to drop the "soul" moniker but you can feel the Ferrari was built to be driven and enjoyed and forget the rest, while the NSX was something you could live with everyday.
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Muffinpox posted:This is what separates the NSX and 348 apart for me, I wouldn't put it past Ferrari to have just said "why would you order a car in white? Eh, looks good enough" while doing the fit and finish. The 348 reeked of a car where the amenities were a "oh I guess we should do that" because why the gently caress would you take your Ferrari out when it might rain, leave the top at home instead of stowing it. Everything about the actual driving and mechanicals of the car was artwork, but then you get to the door and there's exposed screws. The NSX is a billion times better and more thought out in terms of fit and finish but it lacks something the Ferrari had in terms of driving. I hate to drop the "soul" moniker but you can feel the Ferrari was built to be driven and enjoyed and forget the rest, while the NSX was something you could live with everyday. I agree, which is why I think it's weird that the Ferrari didn't do better in contemporary car comparos where practicality is not as big of a concern. The 348 is 100% the car you want someone else to own and let you borrow and dress up like Don Johnson.
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I totally believe that it's possible that the factory made it like that. Inferior Italian production methods, and all. I was just something I wondered over the time it was floating around here... seemed coincidental that there were color issues in the middle and fit issues in the middle. Having owned an '87 Biturbo Si, and seeing the factory double-gasket the exhaust manifold? Yeah, I'd believe just about anything with Italian car assembly.
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Muffinpox posted:I hate to drop the "soul" moniker but you can feel the Ferrari was built to be driven and enjoyed and forget the rest, while the NSX was something you could live with everyday. For those lucky enough to have a separate "fun" car, picking something that doesn't necessarily look the best on paper can definitely lead to a better experience overall. Because yeah, technically, an NSX would be a better choice. But a 348 would be a much better experience overall, aside from maintenance of course 
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Muffinpox posted:This is what separates the NSX and 348 apart for me, I wouldn't put it past Ferrari to have just said "why would you order a car in white? Eh, looks good enough" while doing the fit and finish. The 348 reeked of a car where the amenities were a "oh I guess we should do that" because why the gently caress would you take your Ferrari out when it might rain, leave the top at home instead of stowing it. Everything about the actual driving and mechanicals of the car was artwork, but then you get to the door and there's exposed screws. The NSX is a billion times better and more thought out in terms of fit and finish but it lacks something the Ferrari had in terms of driving. I hate to drop the "soul" moniker but you can feel the Ferrari was built to be driven and enjoyed and forget the rest, while the NSX was something you could live with everyday. I still think you are crazy for not liking the NSX more but that really comes down to preference I guess
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GentlemanofLeisure posted:But when you see his reaction when he starts driving the Ferrari, you can tell that's THE car. And in the end he surprised me by picking it. As hammy as Doug is, that reaction is completely what driving the 348 does to you. It comes alive at speed and high RPMs. I imagine with a V12 and more power, the 512 and Testarossa must feel like you're piloting the Last Starfighter in terms of character. Still, if you're only driving 50mi/wk like me, the ridiculous manual steering and clutch just might cancel out the fun.
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Nodoze posted:I still think you are crazy for not liking the NSX more but that really comes down to preference I guess I love the NSX, it's like 98% of driving a 348 in terms of driving experience and 100% better for living with. I prefer the 348 just because that 2% is the difference between "this brake pedal feel is amazing" and "I will never encounter a car with brakes this perfect again". Obligatory exhaust noise: https://youtu.be/tefsMeQplK8 Muffinpox fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Feb 4, 2017 |
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Jesus Kimbo so much to catch up on. Just did a shot at a bar for u. Godnspeed!
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BlackMK4 posted:Seems like an Italian thing -- Ducatis are the same way. Aprilia, too. They probably started spraying at the fenders, and didn't adjust their distance from the panels for the doors which are further in. Probably the fairing is the same deal, I bet it's a straight back and forth paint booth without the ability to track the curves of the fairing.
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Spare parts have arrived in the NL. Buyer's workshop has a bar in it, so this is the crew staring at pieces that not too long ago were scattered around my apartment: We managed to pack the white targa top in my new TV's box. It was pretty much a perfect fit. Used the car cover to pad it a bit more. Buyer says Fedex's packing of the wheel and exhaust parts was really nice. He used his business Fedex number to pay for all that.  I swear he explained that he was shipping internationally by saying "I'm Dutch" in the same tone Goldmember used in Austin Powers. Car is still state-side awaiting whatever the export process is to finalize. I still need to cancel my insurance and registration. They're supposed to give me some paperwork when the export is complete. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Feb 10, 2017 |
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Ok, cars I've looked at since the 348 auction sold: this rebuilt 996 Turbo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Porsche-911-/282324054241?orig_cvip=true I actually got it PPIded, and the rebuild looked decent, but the seller was really unappealing to deal with, and it sold before the 348 money was in my hands. Lotus 7 clones: http://www.ebay.com/itm/262849953648 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Westfield-Lotus-Super-7-Series-3-/162268770684 I'm still pretty intrigued by these, but cars without federal VINs and without basic Mass state inspection items (wipers and sprayers) are gonna be that much trickier to register for normal street use. Hilariously, the rotary up there has a manual wiper feature that I'm sure I could rig a spray bottle up to. A Delorean: http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-delorean-dmc-12-3/ Not sure what these sell for, but I imagine driving one would be like having a moving billboard for BttF. This rebuilt 986 Boxster S: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Porsche-Boxster-S-Convertible-2-Door-/192091828452?orig_cvip=true I actually won this auction and had the seller drive it to my friend in Daytona Beach. But the moment my friend drove it, he asked me if I could sell it to him. So I might not title this one, even. He is asking his fiancee for permission to get it and then he'll decide. e: as soon as the Morgan EV3 surfaced, I emailed my "local" Morgan dealer to get news updates, but it's been half a year with no news. And, it'd probably be very very expensive. But that is an example of a very different car that I'm interested in. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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kimbo305 posted:Ok, cars I've looked at since the 348 auction sold: I'm surprised you didn't list Elise/Exige twins since they're about the closest you can get to a Lotus 7 without getting a suicide car and there's a wonderful selection of them with a wide variety of mods. I considered them a little and Evoras a lot before getting the 911. There's really an impressive variety of awesome cars when you consider under $40k and less cost of ownership than a Ferrari as primary criteria.
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Re Elises: I haven't driven one, so it's unfair, but driving the Evora before I got the 348 turned me off to the brand. The interior was "yep, these are car controls" and the Sports Exhaust sounded like garbage. I asked the salesguy twice if the button was on. BlackMK4 posted:I didn't realize I could literally buy a rocket powered coffin for 18k. I think this is the one that got away, in that category: http://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-world-class-motorsports-ultralite-s2k/
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kimbo305 posted:Lotus 7 clones: Have always wanted one of these, I'd love even the super basic one they get in the UK with the kei car engine. One thing that stopped me at the time was finding track day organizations that will let you run an open wheel car with traditional road cars. Friend up north bought the equivalent of the Caterham R500 as a retirement present to himself. He comes from a 600 whp race Evo and says this is the most terrifying thing he's ever driven. NitroSpazzz fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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kimbo305 posted:Re Elises: I haven't driven one, so it's unfair, but driving the Evora before I got the 348 turned me off to the brand. I actually really like the sorta double bubble thing going there. I'm bookmarking that for the rotary Lotus 7 clone my dad and I are working on.
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kimbo305 posted:Re Elises: I haven't driven one, so it's unfair, but driving the Evora before I got the 348 turned me off to the brand. Haha, I was forbidden from buying an Evora by my wife after she sat inside one. I can't say I blame her because it tries to be luxury but oh my the build quality and design. I think the Elise/Exige might benefit from being much more raw overall rather than even trying poorly at leather everything.
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Boxster's are such a screaming value if you find the right one. What are your thoughts on blah blah IMS chat tho? Edit: I am watching what this Delorean goes for. Fix it up to make it perfect and I don't see how you would lose money when you went to sell it. everdave fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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mekilljoydammit posted:I actually really like the sorta double bubble thing going there. I'm bookmarking that for the rotary Lotus 7 clone my dad and I are working on. Is there a better steering routing solution than the Wharton's U-joint snake setup around fluid reservoirs and frame? everdave posted:Boxster's are such a screaming value if you find the right one. What are your thoughts on blah blah IMS chat tho? At <$10k, with a decent number of miles on it, I'd just hope for the best.
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kimbo305 posted:At <$10k, with a decent number of miles on it, I'd just hope for the best. It's all that is keeping me away from multiple 6-8k sub 100k Boxster's around me. Scared of the risk and as such I'd probably do the fix and then always wonder if I just threw away $$ for it.
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everdave posted:It's all that is keeping me away from multiple 6-8k sub 100k Boxster's around me. Scared of the risk and as such I'd probably do the fix and then always wonder if I just threw away $$ for it. I'd do the fix, then drive the balls off of it, knowing that everything else is pretty much bombproof.
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If you are looking at 7 clones I'd recommend driving an Elise. While the used market is just crazy with even the roughest ones well over 20k and a nice example above 30 they are much more usable. The clones I've driven were both 4age powered with traditional suspension and an absolute blast, but every bit of road gravel, dust and half the puddles end up right in the lap. A tonneau cover is pretty much a requirement if you want to use it on the street which makes it even harder to get in and out of. If you have big feet get used to stowing your shoes and good luck finding someplace they won't bounce out onto the street. The Elise is easy to get in and out of unless the top is up, and has working heat and defrost. They start every time and require no special maintenance and still are great to drive. The exhaust note isn't likely to impress though.
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Bibendum posted:
I view the clamshell issues with the modern Lotus cars as a bigger issue than IMS on some Porsche cars. The Porsche is a mechanical issue that is uncommon, but can be prophylactically solved. The clamshells on the Lotus cars are fragile and extremely expensive. If you can find one that's been salvaged for clamshell, repaired and sold reflecting the branding, that's an option. Otherwise, I find them to be too delicate of a snowflake for ownership. Damned shame, too, because they are great running, great looking cars at a reasonable price with a small garage footprint. All prime metrics for me. 
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Seminal Flu posted:I'd do the fix, then drive the balls off of it, knowing that everything else is pretty much bombproof. If it weren't for the fact that I don't want to deal with another soft top (the ragtop on the Miata was really more nuisance than not) I'd have a hard time not getting a Boxster. Alas, the Cayman hasn't hit that level of cheap yet.
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Another knock against the Elise is that while it is uncommon (at least around here), it doesn't feel unusual enough to me anymore. I think if the right deal came along, I would do it, though. My CEO had a very low mileage one and he was trying to sell it to me for 35k, and I was like no way, not at that price. One more problem with kit cars: in MA, you need to pass OBD ready states on cars newer than 2003. So any kit car made after that needs to have OBD-II, which rules out newer-made carbed kits like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/232235502865 The attractiveness of a Boxster (or Elise) is that I can be pretty sure I can just drive up to an inspection station and pass without any effort.
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kimbo305 posted:Another knock against the Elise is that while it is uncommon (at least around here), it doesn't feel unusual enough to me anymore. I think if the right deal came along, I would do it, though. I'll personally check this out for you https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/5928051309.html
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kimbo305 posted:Is there a better steering routing solution than the Wharton's U-joint snake setup around fluid reservoirs and frame? I missed that the first time looking at that ebay ad and promptly broke out laughing. Rotaries in LHD cars even make it easier since there's no exhaust or intake plumbing to dodge. Suffice to say Caterhams end up with a U-joint at the rack and one on the inside past the firewall; part of the trick is having the master cylinders pointing towards the rear of the car and having the shaft to the side of them.
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Jymmybob posted:I'll personally check this out for you How could he do all that poo poo to an LQ9 and only end up with 365whp? 
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Nodoze posted:Buy an NSX or a Cayman S No idea, i see pushrods and iron block then just blank out to 200hp thanks to 90s GM. It is a local car though and I messaged him a while back before getting something else. I wish i him luck in getting 5 digits.
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Jymmybob posted:No idea, i see pushrods and iron block then just blank out to 200hp thanks to 90s GM. It is a local car though and I messaged him a while back before getting something else. I wish i him luck in getting 5 digits. If you're talking about the LQ9, it makes 350 at the flywheel from the factory.
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