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CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

CommieGIR posted:

Michigan GOP member suggested that, in response to the UC Berkeley protests against Milo, that the National Guard should be deployed and be allowed to shoot protesters like Kent State:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michigan-gop-official-kent-state_us_58952eafe4b09bd304bb86f0?kpdto4ndkuykwewmi&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

poor widdle babby had to get off the facebooks because people were saying mean things to him

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Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

poor widdle babby had to get off the facebooks because people were saying mean things to him

loving Milo wanted apologies for being called a white nationalist, even though the dude thrives off telling people that "words can't hurt you stop being a victim blah blah.

It doubly infuriates me that people that are demonstrably chicken poo poo and/or hypocritical are treated like loving heroes

FastestGunAlive
Apr 7, 2010

Dancing palm tree.
What a weak rear end excuse. I communicated poorly. No, you're a sicko and Internet tough guy. No doubt plenty of people will be sharing his posts in agreement though

bij
Feb 24, 2007

KildarX posted:

loving Milo wanted apologies for being called a white nationalist, even though the dude thrives off telling people that "words can't hurt you stop being a victim blah blah.

It doubly infuriates me that people that are demonstrably chicken poo poo and/or hypocritical are treated like loving heroes

The Nazis that repugnant loving worm tried to buddy up with should have curbed him.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

CommieGIR posted:

Michigan GOP member suggested that, in response to the UC Berkeley protests against Milo, that the National Guard should be deployed and be allowed to shoot protesters like Kent State:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michigan-gop-official-kent-state_us_58952eafe4b09bd304bb86f0?kpdto4ndkuykwewmi&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

#puremichigan :cabot:

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare

Kuroyama posted:

That's pretty much any state. Almost all liberal states are ones with enough people in their cities to control the way the votes go.

Pretty much. The only reason Virginia has been blue recently is because of Richmond and the north side of the state. I think Roanoke went blue this last election too, which was a surprise.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

CommieGIR posted:

Michigan GOP member suggested that, in response to the UC Berkeley protests against Milo, that the National Guard should be deployed and be allowed to shoot protesters like Kent State:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michigan-gop-official-kent-state_us_58952eafe4b09bd304bb86f0?kpdto4ndkuykwewmi&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

You loving oval office.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
I wish we could just have the army murder everyone who doesn't agree with me!!!!!!!!!!!!



no no wait guys thats not what I meant I mean it would be terrible if that happened

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it
I'm just dumbfounded at that.



FYI my mom was there during the protests/shooting/aftermath. It was a massive shut show.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

what the gently caress is Portage acacian is the better question to ask here dude's best hope for walking it back is to claim he was tweeting mid-stroke

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Donnie's pissed that Bannon got the TIME cover and not him.

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/828023252173873153

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


facialimpediment posted:

Donnie's pissed that Bannon got the TIME cover and not him.

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/828023252173873153
Good. Maybe he'll get mad enough to have Dr. Gobbles black bagged.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Well that's one way to drive a wedge between the two: give Bannon all the air time and credit.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Hopefully the media is smart enough to keep that ball rolling since if we need the DNC then welp

Meshka
Nov 27, 2016

maffew buildings posted:

Hopefully the media is smart enough to keep that ball rolling since if we need the DNC then welp

Yeah, at this point the DNC is pretty much useless. They had 3 months to come up with a strategy and they have nothing. Hint: Turn way left, this centrist bullshit is what lost us everything. I honestly believe that a socialist party would do well. Take the populism of Trump, include single payer, and a toned down nationalism that is not blurted out in crazy tweets and you got yourself a winner.

Now the question is whether it will be Booker or Gillibrand. I'd much prefer Gillibrand, but Booker is very good at shapeshifting so he might come out on top. And then we get a centrist neoliberal and it all starts over again.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Meshka posted:

Yeah, at this point the DNC is pretty much useless. They had 3 months to come up with a strategy and they have nothing. Hint: Turn way left, this centrist bullshit is what lost us everything. I honestly believe that a socialist party would do well. Take the populism of Trump, include single payer, and a toned down nationalism that is not blurted out in crazy tweets and you got yourself a winner.

Now the question is whether it will be Booker or Gillibrand. I'd much prefer Gillibrand, but Booker is very good at shapeshifting so he might come out on top. And then we get a centrist neoliberal and it all starts over again.

I don't think so. I think this election was the one to run the populist against Trump. I think by 2020 everyone will be so sick of the crypto fascist bullshit that a center left candidate will actually work. Warren would have been the candidate for 2016; Clinton would have been the candidate for 2020.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Booker is a cynical shithead. I want Franken.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
I was watching Franken tear into DeVoss last night for a bit. I had to turn it off because that stupid bitch made me so mad, but Franken was going for it.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

franken is terrifying smart and has very little fear

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?
Some of the poo poo Trump said in the Bill O'Reilly interview...mother of god.

http://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/828026170302148608

http://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/828032258359619586

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


loving O'Reilly challanged him on something :lol:

Of course he's a shithead but not quite as much of a toady as Hannity.

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP

Casimir Radon posted:

loving O'Reilly challanged him on something :lol:

Of course he's a shithead but not quite as much of a toady as Hannity.

It's like McCain and Graham. Trump has brought us a new level of stupid/shittiness, so the old level is refreshing by comparison.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
wth is going on in belarus

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/827578206148501505

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB



The world is upside down.

Also he gonna die.

CoffeeQaddaffi
Mar 20, 2009

It kind of looks like the Russian Duma is "offering" peaceful annexation of Belarus. And it looks like the Russian-led Eurasian trade alliance is losing money at a massive rate.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

What exactly happened in Vietnam after the war? Why did it not end up like Korea where it was split in two?

CoffeeQaddaffi
Mar 20, 2009

Reverand maynard posted:

What exactly happened in Vietnam after the war? Why did it not end up like Korea where it was split in two?

The communist North conquered the South. Korea "ended" in a cease fire that never coalesced into something more permanent.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Reverand maynard posted:

What exactly happened in Vietnam after the war? Why did it not end up like Korea where it was split in two?
We stopped fighting and the North swept in and defeated the weak South.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
I don't know if you're joking or not, but in Korea a cease fire was enacted and the US stayed there.

In vietnam we left, and the NVA completely conquered South Vietnam. That's what the whole evacuation of Saigon (picture helicopters getting pushed off carrier decks to make more room for incoming birds) was, embassy workers and other people running like gently caress before they were overrun by NVA.

The communists completely and totally won

Number Ten Cocks
Feb 25, 2016

by zen death robot
Me: What's your level of Belarus fearmongering?

GIP: Like a 4, why?

Me: You are like little baby, watch this.

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/828007592005890048

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Yeah we completely lost vietnam and ran out. One of my friend's father was one of the people in the iconic escape from Saigon picture. He was a teenager and had been working at the embassy and was given a chance to come back to the states, so he came over with no family or anything, got adopted, and now is a doctor in Daytona.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
so what you're saying is he a filthy terrorist refugee the horror, the horror

edit: Legit though those stories are always cool. Wasn't the dude that makes that hot sauce a vietnam war refugee, and now he's loaded as gently caress. Just makes this loving ban poo poo piss me off even more.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Then China and Vietnam had a little war and both declared victory.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

Then China and Vietnam had a little war and both declared victory.

Did a little reading on that. China got trounced so hard it was silly. Very Pyrrhic for Vietnam bust still.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
We were the only thing propping up South Vietnam for years. You'd of thought we'd of learned our lesson in getting involved in what was ostensibly a civil war but welp

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
Yeah and we installed VERY QUESTIONABLE people in power too. Good poo poo but at least they weren't COMMUNISTS

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

Yeah and we installed VERY QUESTIONABLE people in power too. Good poo poo but at least they weren't COMMUNISTS

The tragedy of the whole thing is Ho Chi Minh actually preferred America over the chinese and wasn't really communist outside of lip service for neighboring support. If not for the red scare, we might have just stayed out of the mess entirely.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

LingcodKilla posted:

Did a little reading on that. China got trounced so hard it was silly. Very Pyrrhic for Vietnam bust still.
I think Deng had different goals and intended it to be a very brief invasion.

quote:

That China initiated hostilities is beyond dispute, historians say, and the conflict was fought entirely on Vietnamese soil. It is also generally held that if the war did not produce an outright defeat for China, it was a costly mistake fought for dubious purposes, high among them punishing Vietnam for overthrowing the Khmer Rouge leader of Cambodia, Pol Pot, a Chinese ally who was one of the 20th century's bloodiest tyrants.

Since then, some historians have speculated that the war may also have fit into the modernization plans of China's former paramount leader, Deng Xiaoping, by highlighting the technological deficiencies of the Maoist People's Liberation Army, or P.L.A. Others say the war was started by Mr. Deng to keep the army preoccupied while he consolidated power, eliminating leftist rivals from the Maoist era.

Today, veterans often cling to these explanations but also fume about being used as cannon fodder in a cynical political game. "We were sacrificed for politics, and it's not just me who feels this way -- lots of comrades do, and we communicate our thoughts via the Internet," said Xu Ke, a 40-year-old former infantryman who recently self-published a book, "The Last War," about the conflict. "The attitude of the country is not to mention this old, sad history because things are pretty stable with Vietnam now. But it is also because the reasons given for the war back then just wouldn't stand now."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/01/world/asia/was-the-war-pointless-china-shows-how-to-bury-it.html

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

Mr. Nice! posted:

The tragedy of the whole thing is Ho Chi Minh actually preferred America over the chinese and wasn't really communist outside of lip service for neighboring support. If not for the red scare, we might have just stayed out of the mess entirely.

I believe he literally asked the USA for help in gaining independence because he actually loved the gently caress out of the American Revolution and constitution and ideals

lol get hosed!

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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


The Vietnamese actually quite liked us before the war since we helped them kill Japs. Too bad we decided to side with the French. Now things are well thawed out but Donnie Dumbfuck didn't want to know where Vietnam was back then, and he certainly doesn't now.

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