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Hot Karl Marx posted:They're usually black I mean I know but still.
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Untagged posted:For educational purposes here are the current Federal penalties for simple weed possession: Duzzy Funlop posted:There are mandatory minimum sentencing for misdemeanor drug offenses? Short version: Policy on who should go to jail in the USA is heavily influenced by the jails who want more inmates for more profit. Has this had a visible impact? Well...  (They double-dip too, contracting the prisoners out to work jobs for pennies an hour, which also means those companies using prison labor won't be hiring non-prisoners for those jobs.) Turning an illegal thing legal, especially something that has jailed as many people as weed, would be a massive hit to their bottom lines. Rationality may win in the end, but the prisons will definitely not let it go without a fight. Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Feb 10, 2017 |
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9th Circuit posted:Nevertheless, we hold that the Government has not shown a likelihood of success on the merits of its appeal, nor has it shown that failure to enter a stay would cause irreparable injury, and we therefore deny its emergency motion for a stay.
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According to my mother, (aka the propaganda outlets she listens to) crime is up like 300% in states with legal weed, so if they decide to go after it I'd expect that's the drum they're going to bang.
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https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/829835829635907586 https://twitter.com/TerryMoran/status/829834278401880064 https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/829835503671316485 This court ruling is basically "well, you didn't shut the gently caress up, Donnie"
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quote:To the contrary, while counseling They're loving with him, aren't they? "Supersede" would have been perfectly fine, right?  I mean, maybe I'm biased towards wanting them to gently caress with him and it's a perfectly fine term to use in that situation.
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Breaking news! Trump tweet! He's now resorted to all capital letters.
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Also saw this in the other thread but I'm sure it's nothing since we are in the mirror universe but still its one of those things that sounds nice to read at least https://twitter.com/countable/status/829821297496571908/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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You got scooped last page, joat. The court balked on reaching the merits of anything other than clearly establishing that the states had standing to sue. The whole thing reads like no matter what the government argues they will lose on the due process claims. The court completely passed on looking at the 1st amendment claim. I think all in all the 9th circuit is trying to signal the president that he is going to lose on this order on the due process claim regardless of anything else, and he would save himself a lot of trouble and embarrassment on the 1st amendment claims if he just withdrew the order and let it go. Since this is trump I think this will get appealed to SCOTUS immediately and he'll fight it tooth and nail till the end.
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YES! Get ready to lose a supreme court challenge within your first year, Donnie 
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Welp. I wonder if the SCOTUS will just take up the case whole cloth or if they'll just deny the appeal of the 9th circuit and let the district court and 9th take a stab at the injunction first with a full record.
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Deathy McDeath posted:YES! Get ready to lose a supreme court challenge within your first quarter, Donnie
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I'm literally dumbfounded at the response.
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Hey, 9th Circuit Judges, if you hear trump boarded AF1 with a gun in his hands, don't see him in court.
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mlmp08 posted:Hey, 9th Circuit Judges, if you hear trump boarded AF1 with a gun in his hands, don't see him in court. I too am worried about the damage that <insert caliber of firearm Trump's tiny hands can hold> will do to a grown adult.
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Why are people happy this will go to SCOTUS? Isn't donnie gunna name some judges that will probably rule in favor of him
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Waroduce posted:Why are people happy this will go to SCOTUS? Isn't donnie gunna name some judges that will probably rule in favor of him Gorsuch is replacing Scalia, so the makeup of the Court will be back to where it was during the Obama administration. Kennedy remains the swing vote. Allowing this to go through is a huge power grab for the executive at the expense of the judiciary, which would be a terrible precedent to set for other challenges to Trump's executive powers.
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Waroduce posted:Why are people happy this will go to SCOTUS? Isn't donnie gunna name some judges that will probably rule in favor of him Gorsuch isn't even out of committee yet let alone at the bench. At this point the SCOTUS will probably just deny cert and let the district court issue an injunction with a full record.
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Waroduce posted:Why are people happy this will go to SCOTUS? Isn't donnie gunna name some judges that will probably rule in favor of him Because even counting just the four liberal justices, Kennedy would be likely to join that majority and strike down the EO.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Because even counting just the four liberal justices, Kennedy would be likely to join that majority and strike down the EO. Hell, I'd be willing to say that Thomas joins the majority out of respect for checks and balances. Roberts might also join the majority because he has a thing for the legacy of the Court, and being the guy in charge of the Supreme Court that let the executive branch completely nullify the judiciary is probably not on his bucket list.
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Or maybe a smilie of a beet red Donnie with steam shooting out of his ears
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You guys are missing the big picture. The 9th was unanimous because this fails the due process requirement of the 5th really loving hard. They said that government is going to lose on that claim. They specifically didn't discuss the religious part of it because I'm guessing they couldn't get Clifton to sign onto that. You might get dissenting opinions on the 1st amendment claim, but I'm pretty sure it's an 8-0 on due process.
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https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/829841388170784768 lol
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Stop it Donnie we are tired of winning
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Yeah this case absolutely goes badly for them if it goes to SCOTUS.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Yeah this case absolutely goes badly for them if it goes to SCOTUS. I do want to see whatever DoJ attorney they have up there trying to argue the case, though. It's like the one moment that I wish Scalia was still alive just because of how that oral argument would proceed.
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Robot Hobo posted:Perhaps the biggest potential snag to legalizing weed (or anything currently illegal) is our prison system. For the past few decades, our prison system has largely become a for-profit industry. That industry has their own lobbyists who fight to make more things into prison-worthy offenses, and to add more minimum prison sentences. They spend millions of dollars on bribes/campaign contributions, and some of the lawmakers have more direct ties. When you hear numbers saying we have a higher percentage of our population behind bars than almost anywhere else, it's because there's money to be made from imprisoning people. Some states even enter into contracts with the prison where they promise to keep those prisons filled. Slavery never perished. It simply underwent makeovers with periodic stages of re-inventing and tactics that allow for large amounts of money to be made by its handlers throughout history. It will never go away as long as people put greed and profit over compassion and love for each other. I could never really understand the legality over the whole contracts over ensuring that X number of beds stay filled, though I can certainly understand the (profit) motive for it. Nothing really surprises me anymore with where my reading and research has taken me. You could tell me we have colonizes on the moon/mars, that technology ten-twenty/x years ahead of our time has been kept in the hands of a few for profit or personal interests. I wouldn't blink an eye. Until we stop thinking only about ourselves and start thinking and caring about each other it all makes so much sense. Would love to start seeing others care as much about each other as I feel towards everyone. I know there's some of you out there.. 
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redneck nazgul posted:
If this goes fast enough, could it be within the first month?
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Play this while reading the resulting reactionary tweet when trump loses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-GaXa8tSBE E they should replace hail to the chief with horns.aiff at an official event just once.
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Man I can never tell if donnys tweets are real or shopped, my brain straight up just refuses to accept that they're legit 
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Maybe I'm tripping but that tweet just like got even bigger font, but I don't know twitter very well
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Bonus points if he uses his tiny hands to knock out the person controlling @potus and tweets out an all caps rant about how the courts should know their place.
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Trump probably thinks he's gonna take this to court and settle it like he did with Trump U.
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Thats not how supreme court challenges work Donnie
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A surprisingly restrained response from trump on his way to dinner with a deflated basketball
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:shh, if you listen you can hear trump screaming like a baby / typing nonsense into his phone about liberal judiciary https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/829836231802515457 edit: beaten but still a glorious tweet
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