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koolkevz666 posted:One lord is an undead robot pirate. Trazyn the Infinite is a collector. A collector of the rare and priceless in his tesseract vaults, and his collection is something to behold - he's got Custodes in there. He's got most of a Craftworld. He's got a [maybe] Primarch.
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You are however correct if you assume Trazyn is the best. Because he is. One of the best stories involving him is where he thanked an Inquisitor for "donating" new "exhibits" for his museum (read: a taskforce sent to try and kill him that was promptly captured by him), and sent her a "gift" that would trap whoever got it into a pocket dimension or whatever. Point being, Trollzyn is Best 'Cron. Dr. Snark fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Feb 8, 2017 20:41
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Trazyn is perhaps the only being in the 40K universe whose kleptomaniac skill outshines that of the Blood Ravens.
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Feb 8, 2017 20:49
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koolkevz666 posted:One lord is an undead robot pirate. Cythereal posted:Trazyn the Infinite is a collector. A collector of the rare and priceless in his tesseract vaults, and his collection is something to behold - he's got Custodes in there. He's got most of a Craftworld. He's got a [maybe] Primarch. I'm actually talking about Thaszar the Invincible of the Sarneck Dynasty, who is a literal undead robot space pirate. But, yes, Trazyn is pretty great.
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Feb 8, 2017 20:52
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Chapter 1, Part 3 where nothing much really happens except some Orkz git krumped. Zog me.
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Feb 8, 2017 21:11
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Technowolf posted:Newcron lore pretty significantly torpedoes that. The new lore is that they were once mortal beings with very short lifespans who declared war on the Old Ones(tm) for the crime of 'being immortal'. 'Crons get their asses handed to them because the Old Ones used the webway to outmaneuver them constantly. Sometime later Szarekh the Silent King decides to make a pact with star vampires (as in, they literally suck the life out of stars) called C'Tan to get turned into robots. A second war between the Necrons/C'Tan and Old Ones erupts, but the enhanced firepower/toughness of the robo-crons makes the Old Ones create the proto-Eldar and proto-Orks as meatshields (whose prodigious use of psychic powers, in turn, roils the once-calm Warp into the Chaos-filled Hell we know now). This ends with the remaining Old Ones loving off to another galaxy (and possibly creating the Tyranids) but Szarekh realizing that he literally sold his people's souls to the C'Tan, so he comes up with a plan to destroy them after they feast on said souls, shattering most of them except Llandu'gor, who was killed, and possibly the Void Dragon, if it is a captured C'Tan. I miss old Necron lore. The change helped to give individual necrons more personality and they now had actual factions, but at the expense of making them all but a non-entity in story impact and they lost the cool "implacable horror" aesthetic - old necrons would just show up and start killing things without any explanation and then leave just as suddenly as they came - there's a neat story where five cairn tomb ships suddenly appear above Mars (cause they use inertialess drives instead of the warp) and one of them actually manages to land on the planet before being destroyed, which considering that Mars is one of the most heavily defended planets in the galaxy is pretty terrifying. But I guess GW figured if the game had yet another existential threat the whole universe would topple over or something.
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Feb 8, 2017 22:13
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Disproportionation posted:But I guess GW figured if the game had yet another existential threat the whole universe would topple over or something. Necrons weren't selling. Rather than assuming (correctly) that it's because their rules suck, they assumed it was because of the lore. Games Workshop is pretty bad about that in general. They don't realize that people usually only buy things that are actually useful.
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Technowolf posted:I'm actually talking about Thaszar the Invincible of the Sarneck Dynasty, who is a literal undead robot space pirate. The origin story of Trazyn is particularly good. So, a lot of the reason the newcrons are kind of in a bind is that after a couple million years, there have been some stasis tomb failures. Not to worry, though, the command protocols are pretty clear on the order of succession in the event of failures. If the ruler's not waking up, command falls to their designated heir, if they're not available it goes to the highest ranking general, on and on and on through the pointlessly complex Necron hierarchy. The crown-world of the Solemnace dynasty, at some point during the intervening couple million years, blew the gently caress up. And so when the Silent King's call reached out, and the command protocols determined who was the highest-ranking noble remaining, the entire military hierarchy was missing, and so was the all of the noble court. With one exception: the Master Archaeovist of the Galleries of Silence, exiled to his own museum-crypt on the grounds nobody really liked the weirdo. The YOU CAN'T CUT BACK ON FUNDING THE HISTORY DEPARTMENT, YOU WILL REGRET THIS guy has reacted predictably to the news that the budget committee now consists, in its entirety, of him. There's been so much history in the last couple million years! Somebody needs to preserve it! And Trazyn knows just the nine-foot-tall undead robot monstrosity with a fleet that can block out suns and an army that uses the shattered fragments of the gods they've broken as pokemon to preserve it good and proper.
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Feb 8, 2017 22:20
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Ze Pollack posted:And Trazyn knows just the nine-foot-tall undead robot monstrosity with a fleet that can block out suns and an army that uses the shattered fragments of the gods they've broken as pokemon to preserve it good and proper. Also, he woke up during the Great Crusade like a small number of other Necrons. Now most Necrons, waking up to find the newborn Imperium lead by the Emperor and the twenty primarchs, immediately said nope we're not doing this and hid or fled. Not Trazyn. Trazyn claims to have been a personal friend of a few of the primarchs, and quite possibly has the primarch Vulkan in his stasis vaults. It is plausible - Ferrus Manus' titular iron hands were necrodermis from destroying a Necron construct, and Alpharius' weapon of choice was a Necron polearm.
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Feb 8, 2017 22:25
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Cythereal posted:Trazyn the Infinite is a collector. A collector of the rare and priceless in his tesseract vaults, and his collection is something to behold - he's got Custodes in there. He's got most of a Craftworld. He's got a [maybe] Primarch. Officially, he just has a full set of baroque power armor. It's just that said power armor may or may not contain Vulkan.  Also, as of Fall of Cadia, CREED is now part of his collection.
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Feb 8, 2017 23:19
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Ze Pollack posted:The origin story of Trazyn is particularly good. Bloody Pom posted:Officially, he just has a full set of baroque power armor. It's just that said power armor may or may not contain Vulkan. This is why Trazyn is the best Necron. Because in amongst all these super grim gritty warriors, and the endless war. There needs to be a cackling super villein. Who just brings so much fun to the setting. It wouldn't surprise me if Trazyn went shopping again, and he brought back a blackstone fortress for shits and giggles. Or sneaks into the imperial palace and nicks the emperor's head. He's just fun, and his inclusion in these super serious matters is great! "Cadia's blowing up? Oh well, BETTER KIDNAP CREED!"
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Feb 8, 2017 23:28
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Chapter 1, Part 3 where nothing much really happens except some Orkz git krumped. Zog me. Oh god Herp I really really thought you had hosed that up there that was an amazing last second save.
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Arashiofordo3 posted:This is why Trazyn is the best Necron. Because in amongst all these super grim gritty warriors, and the endless war. There needs to be a cackling super villein. Who just brings so much fun to the setting. There's also the Necron Lord who got super-Alzheimers from the conversion process, so he thinks he and literally everyone else he meets are Necrontyr. And his bodyguard just kinda goes along with it because he can't convince him otherwise. Newcrons are the best.
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Yeah Herp that was amazing. It's really fun to watch the moves you pull, like the triple-ram that took out the escort.
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After you killed that one cruiser it seemed like the battle was now in your favour with the orks down a big ship and the intel safe, was there a reason why you didn't kill the remaining ones for extra renown?
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Feb 9, 2017 00:35
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Perestroika posted:Edit: Sometimes the STCs also incorporate automated factories. So you'd just dial in what you want, throw in a bunch of requested raw materials in one end, and receive a shiny new tank out the other. Presumably the original full STCs also had that functionality, making them even more valuable. In one story the automated STC factory happened to be tampered with by the Void Dragons minions. It was endlessly churning out Necrons with Lightning Fields. Admech did not appreciate the perfection of the machine in that instance.
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Asehujiko posted:After you killed that one cruiser it seemed like the battle was now in your favour with the orks down a big ship and the intel safe, was there a reason why you didn't kill the remaining ones for extra renown? Cowardice.
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Bloody Pom posted:There's also the Necron Lord who got super-Alzheimers from the conversion process, so he thinks he and literally everyone else he meets are Necrontyr. And his bodyguard just kinda goes along with it because he can't convince him otherwise. The Necron Lord in question is still a completely unbeatable general, he just thinks it's still the old dynasty wars.
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DatonKallandor posted:In one story the automated STC factory happened to be tampered with by the Void Dragons minions. It was endlessly churning out Necrons with Lightning Fields. Admech did not appreciate the perfection of the machine in that instance. Another one involving an STC had the STC part of a sentient Titan AI from the Dark Age, a Titan far more powerful than any current model... and the sentient Titan had made bargains with Chaos, becoming a Chaos Lord in its own right.
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Asehujiko posted:After you killed that one cruiser it seemed like the battle was now in your favour with the orks down a big ship and the intel safe, was there a reason why you didn't kill the remaining ones for extra renown? Didn't want to run the risk of the Dictator being boarded and the data lost, along with the risk of one of the light cruisers dying Alternatively: TildeATH posted:Cowardice.
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Out of curiosity, which Tau fleet aesthetic do people prefer, old or new?
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Shoeless posted:Out of curiosity, which Tau fleet aesthetic do people prefer, old or new? Da wun dat gitz rammed by da orkz YA GIT. Orkz iz best
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AtomikKrab posted:Da wun dat gitz rammed by da orkz YA GIT. They sure do make a pretty spectra when the railguns rip them apart.
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Feb 10, 2017 04:51
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Were necrons the inspiration for mass effect's reapers then?
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No, cuttlefish were.
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And more pointedly, the Reapers take a hell of a lot of inspiration from Alistair Reynolds' Inhibitors and Fred Saberhagen's Berserkers. The latter even get a direct shout-out in ME2 with the Qwib-Qwib.
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Yeah Reapers are cribbed from a number of sources, but they took design notes for their look from spooky critters like squids and spiders and whatnot.
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Feb 10, 2017 18:17
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Chapter 1, Mission 4 which is our first opportunity to break from the canonical series of events.
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Feb 13, 2017 20:47
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What was with the -149 bonus renown in this mission? Nice work in securing the Hand of Darkness, though.
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nweismuller posted:What was with the -149 bonus renown in this mission? Nice work in securing the Hand of Darkness, though. I assume that's a balancing factor considering we had a Battleship with us.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:I assume that's a balancing factor considering we had a Battleship with us. Could it be a penalty for the torpedo salvo you blasted the battleship with?
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Chapter 1, Mission 4 which is our first opportunity to break from the canonical series of events. drat it Herp even when you do well you still manage to torpedo the ship your trying to defend. Also I am amused how not only did you completely miss the fact your Cobra got destroyed but you also never said anything about it for the rest of the video. It was like you never brought it along to begin with.
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cokerpilot posted:drat it Herp even when you do well you still manage to torpedo the ship your trying to defend. Also I am amused how not only did you completely miss the fact your Cobra got destroyed but you also never said anything about it for the rest of the video. It was like you never brought it along to begin with. Escorts are expendable
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Feb 13, 2017 22:36
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Condoleezza Nice! posted:Escorts are expendable And unless it's the Rogue Trader RPG universe: hilariously fragile.
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cokerpilot posted:drat it Herp even when you do well you still manage to torpedo the ship your trying to defend. Also I am amused how not only did you completely miss the fact your Cobra got destroyed but you also never said anything about it for the rest of the video. It was like you never brought it along to begin with. I actually had to rewatch the video since I was sure I didn't bring an escort. With the amount of mismanagement I do it's strange that hard mode isn't punishing me.
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aphid_licker posted:Could it be a penalty for the torpedo salvo you blasted the battleship with? They gave him extra renown on the ship select screen for 149, probably to ensure the player wasn't completely overwhelmed by the enemy forces. That was just them evening out the renown at the end of the battle to make sure he won't get 'free' points
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Chapter 1, Part 5, introducing His Divine Overcompensation in the form of a Dominator-class cruiser.
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It's often said that's it's not the size, but how you wield it... And boy oh boy did the gunnery crew in the Divine Overcompensation not know how to wield it. Do Orks get Roks or Space Hulks in this game?
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I disagree with the Dominator being a ship that needs to stay away from battle: 8 Macro-Cannons per side give it a lot of punch for its size. Granted, up close the Nova Cannon is a bit unwieldy to bring to bear if the ship is in a duel, but in a normal battle, there will be a target that is outside minimum range that can be reached with a quick turn. Edit: also yay, the Eldars are here! Time to murder them all!  (hopefully better than this last mission )
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Maybe ramming things with a big, spindly cannon that needs to fire at long range is a bad idea. Or maybe I'm about to get executed for heresy against the Divine Ramming Maneuver.
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