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Platystemon posted:The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The TV IV > The Expanse, Season 2: The Mormons are going to be pissed. The Expanse, Season 2: Me crush rear end to dust!
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Feb 16, 2017 17:45
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You don't want a plague ship garnering that kind of focused attention, but like the poster up thread had questioned: How much attention would it's new trajectory garner anyways?
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Feb 16, 2017 17:46
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Accretionist posted:You don't want a plague ship garnering that kind of focused attention, but like the poster up thread had questioned: How much attention would it's new trajectory garner anyways? I can't imagine it not getting a ton of attention. If it moved slightly on its own maybe it could have gone unnoticed except for being a scientific oddity, but the Nauvoo is too famous to go unnoticed. It's probably the single greatest human endeavor to date and it was stolen and put on a suicide trajectory with an inanimate rock which somehow dodged at the last minute. In the episode they say Earth and Mars had ships en route to investigate and who were presumably tracking both objects.
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Feb 16, 2017 17:56
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Accretionist posted:How much attention would it's new trajectory garner anyways? Pretty much anyone interested can spot a ship drive firing up from across the system. Eros moving in any way is going to raise a bunch of flags immediately.
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Feb 16, 2017 17:57
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MizPiz posted:It looks more like Eros swung out of the way of the Nauvoo with Miller's location being the axis, which is why there wasn't any noticeable movement for him. That's my uneducated interpretation, at least. Or Winter is coming
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Feb 16, 2017 18:00
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Yeah, and everyone was probably watching already because the Navuoo launching would be a pretty drat big deal and it's not like there's a way to hide that they tried ramming it into Eros. They're playing loose with the timeframes involved but it's also at least a couple hours to a day or so for the thing to go from Tycho to Eros.
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Feb 16, 2017 18:03
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Phobophilia posted:Johnson finally pulled off some real gravitas: stealing his client's ship is going to destroy his business, but so be it. He sees the hard choice and makes it with no hesitation. Based on the entirety of the Erasmus scenes, I think they're full of poo poo. I don't think they were really a med team at all. It sure won't change the fact that (even if I'm right) Holden and crew won't know it. Regardless, the Rocinante is still pretty incognito. If med team goes out and tells the world that there's this fake Martian spaceship flying around threatening to kill them and gently caress with Eros: that's bad news. Even worse if said med team was legit and tells the world 'Hey there's this super disease going around' without knowing what Johnson and Rocinante crew knows. Doctor Butts fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 18:13
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Huh, so the protomolecule invented a gravitic drive.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:54
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This show is like a loving religious experience for me, this must be how some kinds of autistic people feel about trains
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Feb 16, 2017 20:56
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Tighclops posted:This show is like a loving religious experience for me, this must be how some kinds of autistic people feel about trains I keep trying to get my autistic brother into the show/books but he won't stop talking about Honor Harrington instead. 
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Feb 16, 2017 21:11
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Pixelante posted:I keep trying to get my autistic brother into the show/books but he won't stop talking about Honor Harrington instead. The Honor Harrington books are my guilty pleasure. So many flaws, but goddamit, I want to know exactly how many missiles the fleets fire at each other, how many lose track, are destroyed by countermeasure and how many actually hit. 
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Feb 16, 2017 21:53
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So do the space mormons get the Navoo back and go off to make a better world somewhere else? 
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Feb 16, 2017 23:01
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Doctor Butts posted:Edit: So uh, that's awkward. They just gonna give the Nauvoo back then? It’s legitimate salvage. 
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Feb 16, 2017 23:03
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I think the version I've watched is missing scenes again. I can't remember the bit where the Roci flies over the open dock in red light with the gas cannister spinning. FFS. --edit: Nevermind, it's there after all. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 23:32
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Platystemon posted:It’s legitimate salvage.
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Feb 16, 2017 23:41
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It'd be hard to catch up to the Nauvoo, wouldn't it? I think we can assume she accelerated the entire way to Eros, and is probably still accelerating as she missed. So, good luck getting your ship back, Mormnos. She's going to a new sun. 
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Feb 16, 2017 23:49
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Doctor Butts posted:Based on the entirety of the Erasmus scenes, I think they're full of poo poo. I don't think they were really a med team at all. I don't think they were full of poo poo. I think they were something like the next-level version of old Vice journalists: college students with trust funds who blow their parents unlimited money to go to stupidly dangerous places for whatever 'good of humanity'/'raising awareness' reason. What makes the scene so compelling is that both sides do the right thing. The med team, thinking the protomolecule is a Martian weapon, do the right thing and try to warn the rest of the system. The Roci crew, knowing what's actually going on and that they've got the situation under control (oops), do the right thing by killing them in order to stop them from potentially spreading the protomolecule. It's brutal poo poo.
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Feb 17, 2017 00:10
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Did the Marasmus guy expect the Rocinante to slag him for evading quarantine, so he told Holden his plan hoping a Martian with a heart of gold would let him get away? Seems risky.
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Feb 17, 2017 00:17
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Last night's episode was so cool, that final scene was perfectly delivered
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Feb 17, 2017 00:59
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I haven't had so many goose bumps for space ship porn since the launch of Mothership in Homeworld 1/2.
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Feb 17, 2017 01:06
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Milky Moor posted:It'd be hard to catch up to the Nauvoo, wouldn't it? I think we can assume she accelerated the entire way to Eros, and is probably still accelerating as she missed. If a semi truck is on a collision course with city hall, but then city hall side steps it, that doesn't mean the semi truck is lost forever. Just means it's going to maybe carry on through the town for a bit. The Nauvoo was just going to crash into Eros to knock it into the Sun, instead it'll just go through the inner solar system I guess and then there's the entire other half of the solar system with various ships, planets, and rocks out there. I assume they also have some kind of remote control of the thing, so just upload new coordinates and rendezvous somewhere. book stuff: Was the original plan to crash into Eros? I thought I remembered the plan being to do it more tugboat style and steer Eros into the sun with the Nauvoo's enormous drives.
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Feb 17, 2017 01:36
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Lack of Gravitas posted:So do the space mormons get the Navoo back and go off to make a better world somewhere else? Book spoilers about the Nauvoo: Fred Johnson recaptures the Nauvoo and converts it into a warship for the OPA. Inspector 34 posted:book stuff: Was the original plan to crash into Eros? I thought I remembered the plan being to do it more tugboat style and steer Eros into the sun with the Nauvoo's enormous drives. No, it happened the same way in the book as the show. Nihonniboku fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Feb 17, 2017 01:38
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I was legit worried they were going to kill off Miller and the show was going to lose pretty much the best character. Favorite Miller quotes so far: "We need these scientists alive guys!" "Yeah, I did, I killed the mad scientist." "Fred's geeks crunched all the numbers, velocity, speed, angle, all that crap" So many more... basically every line he delivers is awesome. Him and Amos are the dual badasses leading this rag tag group, I love it.
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Feb 17, 2017 03:33
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Milky Moor posted:It'd be hard to catch up to the Nauvoo, wouldn't it? I think we can assume she accelerated the entire way to Eros, and is probably still accelerating as she missed. Not only accelerated the whole way, but seemingly accelerated at speeds humans couldn't handle. In the Expanse books they talk about how humans can take ~4Gs of sustained acceleration with the drug cocktails they have and be ok for some small number of hours, but it basically destroys your body. In the short story that pre-dates the Expanse books, it talks about how the first Epstein drive ever invented could sustain 7+Gs for more than long enough to kill you. Who knows how much thrust an Epstein drive could provide with 100 years of technological refinement.
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Feb 17, 2017 03:47
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bobfather posted:In the short story that pre-dates the Expanse books, it talks about how the first Epstein drive ever invented could sustain 7+Gs for more than long enough to kill you. Who knows how much thrust an Epstein drive could provide with 100 years of technological refinement. If I recall correctly, the Roci can sustain at least 12g. Torpedoes, which are basically just Epstein drives without a ship attached, can manage something like 20g.
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Feb 17, 2017 04:11
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Those little drone tugs were the coolest things, just little eppies with maneuvering jets attached, all networked with a swarm AI.
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Feb 17, 2017 04:16
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That was a solid episode -- I just wish the line had been "the space Mormons are gonna be pissed"
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Feb 17, 2017 04:19
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Inspector 34 posted:If a semi truck is on a collision course with city hall, but then city hall side steps it, that doesn't mean the semi truck is lost forever. Just means it's going to maybe carry on through the town for a bit. Is this a serious post, my dude?
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Feb 17, 2017 04:33
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We are gone and gone and gone. No matter what happens, you can't take it back.
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Feb 17, 2017 05:46
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Milky Moor posted:Is this a serious post, my dude? Well not that serious, my bro. Could have thought for more than 3 seconds and come up with a better metaphor I guess. Maybe a freight train and a school bus? I dunno. Point was, there's no reason to think the Nauvoo is lost as you suggested, there's a whole lot of solar system left to travel through and no indication that the ship is out of control.
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Feb 17, 2017 05:56
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Inspector 34 posted:Well not that serious, my bro. Could have thought for more than 3 seconds and come up with a better metaphor I guess. Maybe a freight train and a school bus? I dunno. Yeah, they could very well have programmed the acceleration to cut shortly after the billiards style bank-shot. Then it's entirely ballistic and can be overtaken.
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Feb 17, 2017 05:59
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Toast Museum posted:If I recall correctly, the Roci can sustain at least 12g. Torpedoes, which are basically just Epstein drives without a ship attached, can manage something like 20g. To be honest that's not much. The US had Sprint ABM missiles capable of 100g. https://i.imgur.com/gtDR7RT.gifv Notice how the missile body turns white? Air friction makes the casing reach 6,000 degrees. Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Feb 17, 2017 05:59
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Eiba posted:The diagram was really interesting. If the protomolecule can defy the laws of physics by instantly altering the trajectory of an entire asteroid, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the resulting effects of acceleration, or lack thereof Platystemon posted:Holden had some major character development, putting down some more‐or‐less innocent people like dogs. It also very conveniently set up Miller's crisis, with the debris from the explosion. I was curious where they were going with the introduction of the Marasmus, but that tied things together nicely.
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Feb 17, 2017 06:28
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Nah those idiots had it coming. Doctors of all people should understand the importance of quarantine and they had already been caught in a lie. gently caress em for being willing to put all of humanity at risk for their lovely citizen-journalist baby ethics.
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Feb 17, 2017 06:33
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That was a great ending, simultaneously subtle and  at the same time.
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Feb 17, 2017 06:37
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Grand Fromage posted:It's a shame they aren't including all the Eros transmissions. My only complaint about this episode was not getting a "DON'T TOUCH ME!!!" when Eros shifted. Toast Museum posted:If I recall correctly, the Roci can sustain at least 12g. Torpedoes, which are basically just Epstein drives without a ship attached, can manage something like 20g. I don't think a top acceleration is ever given for any ship or for torpedoes, unless it's in one of the short pieces. The fastest given book acceleration I can recall anyone actually doing is Alex doing 11 or 12g briefly in the Razorback. 8-9g is the more typical briefly sustained OH poo poo WE'RE ABOUT TO DIE speed in the Rocinante. The Roci is also mentioned as getting a speed upgrade mid-series even though the existing base speed was enough to kill everyone just because Alex thought go faster engines would be cool. Number Ten Cocks fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Feb 17, 2017 06:47
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Number Ten Cocks posted:My only complaint about this episode was not getting a "DON'T TOUCH ME!!!" when Eros shifted. It was actually in the station audio feed before the shot of Naomi's tear, just buried deep in the audio.
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Feb 17, 2017 07:33
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ZekeNY posted:That was a solid episode -- I just wish the line had been "the space Mormons are gonna be pissed" But we don't call our Mormons Earth Mormons.
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Feb 17, 2017 08:08
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gohmak posted:But we don't call our Mormons Earth Mormons. Speak for yourself.
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Feb 17, 2017 08:11
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all Mormons are Space Mormons ultimately. all the faithful shall heed the call of Kolob.
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