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What was the lowest point of the Simpson
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Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Aging Millenial posted:

What's really annoying about the show is how repulsive the animation became. They don't care that simple hand-drawn animation of the golden era simply look better than the pristine computerized crap they have now.

Season 1 ReBoot looks better than modern Simpsons.

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Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
I like the hand-animated skeletons and early 3dsmax inverse kinematics, the show wouldn't be the same at all with mocap

Riptor
Apr 13, 2003

here's to feelin' good all the time
this is a very good thread

also the exact point the simpsons changed irrevocably for me is the part of trash of the titans where the trash is bursting up around town or whatever and the corpse of rodd and todds pet rabbit they had just buried shoot up out of the ground and they scream. It just seemed like a really hosed up, mean spirited joke that was really out of step with anything the show had done before

Captain Lavender
Oct 21, 2010

verb the adjective noun

I would rather watch 5 clumsily-handled Family Guy episodes about domestic abuse than one new Simpsons episode.

With everything to hate about South Park, at least it still has a lot of redeeming qualities after 20 years - at least some attempt at making an entertaining show; I don't know if I could appreciate that if I didn't have the Simpsons to compare it to.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Captain Lavender posted:

I would rather watch 5 clumsily-handled Family Guy episodes about domestic abuse than one new Simpsons episode.

With everything to hate about South Park, at least it still has a lot of redeeming qualities after 20 years - at least some attempt at making an entertaining show; I don't know if I could appreciate that if I didn't have the Simpsons to compare it to.

I don't regularly watch it anymore but South Park still produces the occasional pretty funny episode, sometimes really funny ones. I don't know exactly why, but I guess maybe the (much) shorter time spent on each episode and the fact that the writing team and such is much smaller might work in its favor to sometimes produce something that's pretty funny, especially when its an episode with the kdis just being kids, or Randy doing something really stupid.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Every musical episode is cringe-inducingly bad. It's embarrassing to get caught watching them.

Except the "Evita" one.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

PostNouveau posted:

Every musical episode is cringe-inducingly bad. It's embarrassing to get caught watching them.

Except the "Evita" one.

Oh, yeah. Last point about South Park still sometimes being good, every time there's a song it's fantastic. This is also part of why the South Park movie knocks the Simpsons movie out of the ballpark, because it's an amazing musical (it's also fantastically gay, but that's just another point in its favor).

Randarkman fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Feb 17, 2017

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
South Park also put out a really, really good game a couple of years back. Last fun Simpsons game I played was that Bartman one on the NES and I shudder at the thought of whatever Family Guy game is out there.

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country
hit n run from the ps2/GC era was pretty fun

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

I'd happily watch the newest season of South Park over a single new episode of The Simpsons.

Aging Millenial
Nov 24, 2016

by zen death robot
The thing about the old Simpsons is that there was a certain level of wit that was gobsmacking and often subtle. Remember this brilliant moment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DtkbHfTcM (Homer's speech @59s, but the whole thing is good)

quote:

Never, Marge. Never. I can't live the button-down life like you. I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles. Sure, I might offend a few of the bluenoses with my cocky stride and musky odors - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called "City Fathers" who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about "What's to be done with this Homer Simpson?"


It has a literary ring to it. Is it a reference to something?

Aging Millenial fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Feb 17, 2017

Captain Lavender
Oct 21, 2010

verb the adjective noun

Aging Millenial posted:

The thing about the old Simpsons is that there was a certain level of wit that was gobsmacking and often subtle. Remember this brilliant moment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DtkbHfTcM (Homer's speech @59s, but the whole thing is good)



It has a literary ring to it. Is it a reference to something?

DVD commentary says they just let Dan Castellaneta have at it, whether he had a specific inspiration, I don't know. Amazing if true.

JakeP
Apr 27, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lipstick Apathy
Theres only like 3 maybe 4 bad episodes of the simpsons ever, and oyu are an idiot if you disagree

Drunken Baker
Feb 3, 2015

VODKA STYLE DRINK
I remember liking the Simpsons platformer. The one where you end up fighting Matt Groening and he summons Bender and Zoidberg to fight for him. It was more a piss-take of gaming in general really.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


People who don't like Lisa are immediately suspicious to me, like people with confederate flags on their truck or badass looney tunes on their t-shirts, or anime avatars.

I think the last episode that was decent was Apu cheating on Manjulah with the Slurpee lady, and that was pretty anomalous in an otherwise awful season.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
I hate that Marge and Homer seem to have fallen out and separated dozens of times. The best Simpsons episodes don't tend to focus purely on the relationship between the characters of the main family, because to make that interesting would require the characters to be far more 3 dimensional than they actually are and that there be some kind of continuity so things actually have some form of stakes. The best episodes are overwhelmingly where they are engaging with the world around them through a novel, stretched and exaggerated, but believable plot device; the flaming moe, the monorail, the stonecutters, and so on.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

Aging Millenial posted:

The thing about the old Simpsons is that there was a certain level of wit that was gobsmacking and often subtle. Remember this brilliant moment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DtkbHfTcM (Homer's speech @59s, but the whole thing is good)



It has a literary ring to it. Is it a reference to something?

Not as exacting as I thought (and confirmed by Captain Lavender not to be the case), but I was immediately reminded of this exchange in Psycho:

quote:

Norman: What do you know about caring? Have you ever seen the inside of one of those places? The laughing, and the tears, and the cruel eyes studying you? My mother there? Oh, but she's harmless! She's as harmless as one of those stuffed birds!
Marion: I am sorry. I only felt... it seems she's hurting you. I tried to mean well.
Norman: People always mean well! They cluck their thick tongues, and shake their heads and suggest, oh, so very delicately!

Riptor
Apr 13, 2003

here's to feelin' good all the time
it's amazing how horrible the line readings and audio mix are for the Bart's (completely unnecessary) lines at the beginning of the tik tok video

and also all the completely unnecessary and distracting gags walking into frame during the homer live thing. just reeks of a lack of confidence

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy
Another thing regarding the old animation is in addition to breaking the character models for expressions, they would use cinematic angles as well as shots you could only do with animation. Today it's not only sterile with robotic characters, the camera angles are always boring and uninspired.

Riptor posted:

and also all the completely unnecessary and distracting gags walking into frame during the homer live thing. just reeks of a lack of confidence

It was probably because without them the only thing moving would be Homer's mouth.

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Wizard Master posted:

Some more goofs and gags from recent years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyjuC2xXa8


family guy

Riptor
Apr 13, 2003

here's to feelin' good all the time

sweetmercifulcrap posted:

It was probably because without them the only thing moving would be Homer's mouth.

sure but they could have staged it differently and/or had the things coming into frame be even remotely relevant to the context of what was happening

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
I liked the random people who were in early season crowd scenes. Not every group of Springfielders had to be Professor Frink, Bumblebee Man, and Sideshow Mel. There were actually unnamed random people around.

Also they gave Reverend Lovejoy's denomination of Christianity a name and I loving hate it.

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I liked the random people who were in early season crowd scenes. Not every group of Springfielders had to be Professor Frink, Bumblebee Man, and Sideshow Mel. There were actually unnamed random people around.

Also they gave Reverend Lovejoy's denomination of Christianity a name and I loving hate it.

The Western Branch of American Reform Presbylutheranism is the One True Faith.

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

JakeP posted:

Theres only like 3 maybe 4 bad episodes of the simpsons ever, and oyu are an idiot if you disagree

At this point there are easily 300 bad episodes of the simpsons.

Squashing Machine
Jul 5, 2005

I mean boning, the wild mambo, the hunka chunka
The Simpsons are pretty much the living equivalent of the "today is the worst day of my life" bit from Office Space, except it's every Sunday night when I know the worst episode of the Simpsons ever has just aired

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

The Marge voice actor is apparently very old and sounds like it too at this point.

Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

I am the Wizard Master
I thought all those edgy/random Simpsons parodies couldn't get any worse, but what the gently caress is this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NT2ZiPIukw

Is this canon?

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Wizard Master posted:

I thought all those edgy/random Simpsons parodies couldn't get any worse, but what the gently caress is this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NT2ZiPIukw

Is this canon?

IDK what it is, that's my fave Weird Simpsons thing.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


tfw maggie takes out her pacifier and says "daddy" at the end of the episode <:*-)

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
What's the Leslie Neilsen movie where the characters want to practice safe sex so they wear giant, human sized condoms?

Mokelumne Trekka
Nov 22, 2015

Soon.

Seasons 7-30, so somewhere in there

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

Das Boo posted:

When I think of a pointless celebrity cameo episode, I think of that one where Homer literally drops through a celebrity couple's skylight and spends the rest of the episode giving them relationship advice. I tried to refresh my memory on the details, but then I instead found an episode about Mandy Moore stripteasing at a baseball game and then later pole-dancing in front of Bart and moaning while Homer gives her a massage. Homer then crashes a blimp, but is fine.

I think the very first pointless celebrity cameo that made me think the show was starting to turn to poo poo was having Paul and Linda McCartney just chilling on the roof of the Kwik-E-Mart for whatever reason in Lisa the Vegetarian. Like, okay, Paul said that he and Apu were old friends from India, but what business did they have being on the roof of the Kwik-E-Mart at *~that exact moment~* Lisa needed enlightenment about vegetarianism other than being a pointless celebrity cameo?

It was a dumb cameo in an episode I'm not quite fond of.


The episode where Lisa becomes a Buddhist follows a similar structure (both in tone of the episode and a pointless celebrity cameo): Lisa becomes disillusioned with something, finds a new thing, is mocked and ridiculed for said new thing, and RICHARD GERE OUT OF loving NOWHERE at a Buddhist temple to enlighten her about balance between her beliefs and others . Just ugh.

You Are A Werewolf fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Feb 18, 2017

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


that richard gere episodes has one of my favorite scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYns5vR3QuQ

homer glaring at him slays me every time.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Lisa is the worst.

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

What's the Leslie Neilsen movie where the characters want to practice safe sex so they wear giant, human sized condoms?

naked gun

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Randarkman posted:

Lisa is the worst.

yeah, almost all episodes that focus on her suck. it also sucks that none of the new ones even make fun of her bullshit anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnRt_JEoBRU

they did it in the old days. but now she is just the lovely rear end in a top hat liberal character.

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


they gave lisa the flanders treatment. "flanderized" her if you will

Aging Millenial
Nov 24, 2016

by zen death robot
Look people I know this is the thread for complaining about the Simpsons but here are a few moments I find hilarious.

1. Skinner's Vietnam War story. This is the sort of joke they used to do all the time except this time it's VERBAL instead of it being a visual gag:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqUiVUld33I

2. The first minute of the "clown college" episode. Stupid Homer can be so endearing sometimes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyxvX1N9Tdg&t=74s

3. The Skinner/Chalmers skit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLww3KpLEoo

THIS is what we want from The Simpsons.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!

Maya Fey posted:

they gave lisa the brian griffin treatment. "dogged" her if you will

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Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Man watching these newish clips and the HD animation or whatever is just so...lifeless. It's like a cartoon soap opera effect

Didn't they outsource to the lowest bidder in South Korea or some poo poo? drat it's awful

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