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peramene posted:
peramene, you need to find yourself some pera-graphs  While it's too early to make a hard call on this and I acknoweldge that it's not out of character for pera, I would call that a scum post since (a) she's basically just flattering a bunch of players while (b) not really adding any value in terms of scumhunting / observations about this current game. She claims to have skimmed the thread but then most of her observations are about other games.
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Murmur Twin posted:peramene, you need to find yourself some pera-graphs I agree with this, which is why I want her to address my question specifically and succinctly since it's one of the only game-related things she said in there.
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Feb 18, 2017 21:52
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this is a stickup posted:sara when someone gives you coaching in your scumdoc you shouldn't backpedal so hard that you generate lift The day someone who hasn't earned it gives me "coaching" in a scumdoc is the day I out them as scum in thread without warning and build a FF3-KB style case out of thin air to bury them so far down underground their only option is to build a case that is easily disproven against me so that we secure the win on the crumbling ashes of their hubris Bifauxnen posted:I'm a little confused, is that post trying to say Asiina: Town, obviously? Or should we go more by the tl;dr ending summary, of don't trust Asiina just because she's posting? Apologies for lack of clarity. This might help: "I came here today with the intention to do one thing, because she was posting. But then I realized she may have taken into account my advice from last game, and look what she's choosing to do with it." It's not necessarily scummy, it's not a case, it's just something I wanted to point out. I don't think we should trust Asiina's meta this time around. I think she's gotten more confident and might just be ready to take a stab. Or - more likely - she is just town. All I am meaning to say is don't trust that meta like a drat fool. Asiina posted:pera, why do you think I mischaracterized your initial post? Thank you for asking! I tried to make this clear with my italics. I said I wasn't going to be around for approximately the first half of D1, meaning today. I am actually here, QED. Just saying that I said half a day, and you appeared to be characterizing me as skipping the entirety of D1 while the goddamn shitlords ran their gamut. No. No. No. The second half of D1 - tomorrow - tends to be where things start becoming relevant. At least to me, excepting the people I know, love, cherish, adore, enjoy, etc. simply by knowing them. Fair enough? GulagDolls posted:i support a perameme murder same tbh
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This looks like Asii's town game to me.peramene posted:Scum!Rarity is - well, why not? - an enormous predator which consumes all and leaves naught for the living, a master of the craft that leaves me breathless every time I get the distinct privilege to observe it. Just out of curiosity, which of my scum games have you seen?
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jeez now that everyone's chiming in to echo "yeah Asiina's so town" this is feeling kind of weird for me the more important part is Quid being scum
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Feb 18, 2017 22:08
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Feb 18, 2017 22:08
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quid is making 20 one line posts in a row, so he is not scum, this game.
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Feb 18, 2017 22:09
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GulagDolls posted:rarity just lurks as scum every time lol This post offends my pride 
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Feb 18, 2017 22:10
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Rarity posted:This post offends my pride I think it's the old joke that we're the same person.
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Feb 18, 2017 22:12
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Especially since there's some heat on me, I'm just gonna make comments as I skim. In Podlima I took too long thanking Grandicap for complimenting me and as a result got killed before I could confirm PMom. And then I got my heart yanked out, which was hot. Should result in shorter posts? ("Skimming and making comments or killing you?" 'Yes.') Maybe? :/Quidthulhu posted:I'm not so much confused as I'm not seeing that as what you did but ok Quid spends two consecutive games tunneling me and is now criticizing Asiina's glance in my direction? Alright. Rarity posted:This looks like Asii's town game to me. Only the one. Er, two? Nobody counts popcon2. This isn't one of them, is it?  I don't know how long you're back and I'd hate for you to leave just 'cuz it gets boring for you (esp now that I'm actually building a game myself)GulagDolls posted:rarity just lurks as scum every time lol ##vote gulagdolls Your pretty face won't save you from my villain worship.
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Feb 18, 2017 22:14
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Asiina posted:I think it's the old joke that we're the same person. How can we be the same person when there's a knife sticking out of your back but not mine? 
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Feb 18, 2017 22:14
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B It would be rude to not let both boys have a pie and we are not rude. also all the Bs in a row to make that is just very nice Will be around after basketball later to read and post and blah blah blah
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Feb 18, 2017 22:14
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peramene posted:This isn't a case, this isn't an effortpost, this is just me checking in that I will actually in fact be here, here and there throughout the day, and I'll be doing some reading, but probably no "reading" until people get serious. People have been serious posting and casting real votes. You have time to write your novel, I see, but not enough time to read the thread? Also, why bring up other games so extensively when that can only be used to make meta cases? Meta cases that you're not even making in this game. The excessive attempt at making people think you're engaged with this game is extremely transparent. ##vote peramene
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peramene posted:Only the one. Er, two? Nobody counts popcon2. This isn't one of them, is it? This is a terrible answer, I expected better of you. Also: peramene posted:I'll probably be gone a lot of tomorrow too just 'cuz d1 is pointless peramene posted:The second half of D1 - tomorrow - tends to be where things start becoming relevant. These posts don't vibe together at all ##vote pera
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Feb 18, 2017 22:15
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PS. pera, if you want to see at my scummy best then go read Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Mafia
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Feb 18, 2017 22:16
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peramene posted:Thank you for asking! I tried to make this clear with my italics. I said I wasn't going to be around for approximately the first half of D1, meaning today. I am actually here, QED. Just saying that I said half a day, and you appeared to be characterizing me as skipping the entirety of D1 while the goddamn shitlords ran their gamut. No. No. No. The second half of D1 - tomorrow - tends to be where things start becoming relevant. At least to me, excepting the people I know, love, cherish, adore, enjoy, etc. simply by knowing them. Fair enough? Except I wasn't talking about the first 24 hours of D1 compared to the second 24 hours. I was referring to this: peramene posted:But I'm not participating in some town slapfight resulting in yet another totally pointless d1 lynch. i don't get why this community is obsessed with slaughtering town as quickly as they possibly can - d1 the odds are just loving against us, we have a majority, and okay, maybe you get lucky and you hit someone you actually wanted to hit? How often has this ever happened? Are there stats? Goons? Surely somebody's done the math. I'm not even reading the rest of this poo poo until actual stuff starts happening other than "white noise" or whatever we call it here. Which appears to be saying that D1 lynches are almost always town and so D1 arguments are pointless, which is what I have a problem with. D1 may not be successful in catching scum the majority of the time, but that doesn't therefore mean it's right to check out of D1. You're not the first person to make this argument, but it's always a bad one for the reasons I'm saying. So do you still believe this? How do you respond to my post now that you know what I'm talking about?
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Feb 18, 2017 22:18
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Rarity posted:How can we be the same person when there's a knife sticking out of your back but not mine? Popcon happened.
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Feb 18, 2017 22:20
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Murmur Twin posted:While it's too early to make a hard call on this and I acknoweldge that it's not out of character for pera, I would call that a scum post since (a) she's basically just flattering a bunch of players while (b) not really adding any value in terms of scumhunting / observations about this current game. She claims to have skimmed the thread but then most of her observations are about other games. Huh. I didn't even notice that. Sucks, we could've both had d1 dunks on each other. That would be cool. Tobbs Gnawed posted:People have been serious posting and casting real votes. Yeah? Glad to hear it though. Are you telling me the one game I finally decide to just skip the pointless posts is the one game where people get poo poo together going early? In that case, I have serious catching up to do lmao Rarity posted:PS. pera, if you want to see at my scummy best then go read Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Mafia Thank you so much. It felt creepy to ask even in private and I'm never sure about these things.
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Feb 18, 2017 22:21
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Feb 18, 2017 22:21
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Asiina posted:Alternative post: Why must you hurt my heart?
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Feb 18, 2017 22:23
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Bifauxnen posted:you know, I'm from Auspol and so I haven't played as many games with Asiina, but literally every one I have happened to see her play in I think she's been town. (can someone point out a game for me where she has been scum, cause I can't remember reading one) I think it's very odd to attach a vote to this, borderlining fake. You're certainly welcome to make a read of "people always react poorly to Asiina," but you haven't really provided any evidence here that I am doing so in bad faith. It looks like you're just using this as an excuse to vote for me, but didn't connect the dots correctly.
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Feb 18, 2017 22:25
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peramene posted:Quid spends two consecutive games tunneling me and is now criticizing Asiina's glance in my direction? I don't remember the first game but the last game I was scum and you were an announced "not-scum" so I'm not sure what the point of this is 
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Quidthulhu posted:I think it's very odd to attach a vote to this, borderlining fake. You're certainly welcome to make a read of "people always react poorly to Asiina," but you haven't really provided any evidence here that I am doing so in bad faith. It looks like you're just using this as an excuse to vote for me, but didn't connect the dots correctly. Yeah I figured you'd come back with something like this, keep reading though it should be a couple posts later.
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Feb 18, 2017 22:26
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Bifauxnen posted:Yeah I figured you'd come back with something like this, keep reading though it should be a couple posts later. Retroactively justifying your case, you say?
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Feb 18, 2017 22:29
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FAKE NEWS 
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Feb 18, 2017 22:30
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Lumpen Replaces Absurd revolver!
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Votecount for Day 1  peramene (5): Rarity, Rarity (2): Ahab Itualliar, Infinitum King Burgundy (1): Asiina Infinitum (1): Murmur Twin GulagDolls (1): Ahab Itualliar, Quidthulhu (1): Bifauxnen Asiina (1): Quidthulhu Kashuno (0): Infinitum, Dick Bastardly (0): Enola Gay-For-Pay, CCKeane (0): Murmur Twin, Murmur Twin (0): Tobbs Gnawed, GulagDolls, Not Voting (14): chaoslord, Dick Bastardly, Enola Gay-For-Pay, IllegallySober, Jonathan Fisk, Kashuno, King Burgundy, Little Mac, Lumpen, Mithross, Moatillata, Pander, Pussy Quipped, The Science of SuckWith 26 alive, it's 14 votes to lynch. The current deadline is February 19th, 2017 at 11:59 p.m. EST -- that's in about 1 day, 7 hours. 
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CapitalistPig posted:Lumpen Replaces Absurd revolver! 
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CCKeane posted:Pera and MMT are SCUM BUDDIES. Ahab Itualliar posted:I legit believe this Ahab - were you being serious when you said you legit believe me/pera are scumbuddies? If so, what made you think this?
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Feb 18, 2017 22:36
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CapitalistPig posted:Lumpen Replaces Absurd revolver! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKz4NxpFW5I
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Asiina posted:Except I wasn't talking about the first 24 hours of D1 compared to the second 24 hours. I was referring to this: Like this is an ethos argument and I'm willing to hear an ethos argument from you especially, and willing to cop to being ~new and unsure~ and definitely overconfident after six straight (town) wins but that - at least so far - I haven't actually seen the points you're making (yet). Regardless, what I had planned to do this morning isn't a thing and I'm stuck in bed so here we are. If Tobbs is right and real poo poo is going on, and I've missed out, the very first time I've decided to flip the table in frustration? That's just lovely of me, especially to throw such a fit over it because I knew for drat sure CPig wasn't gonna let me have it. D1 lynch is gonna be town statistically speaking so okay but gimme some time to actually see if Tobbs is right and WHO KNOWS maybe I can at least contribute a little first. Pre-emptively I guess I should apologize for being a pompous rear end in a top hat in my first big post but I've googled my character and read (half of) MMT's posts and this really loving feels personal, CPig. But those of you who know and love me know that I can hardly resist a good grandstanding. Quidthulhu posted:I don't remember the first game but the last game I was scum and you were an announced "not-scum" so I'm not sure what the point of this is Oh, right. Duh. I got so fed up with the fact that loving Ecco made me town but "Mafia," I completely forgot you steel assholes were even around. (I think you almost had that one, by the way - SSV claiming was a huge... right, things to do. PM me when I'm dead, Quid, it'll be fun. I haven't even read your doc yet.) Mafia Edit: CapitalistPig posted:Lumpen Replaces Absurd Revolver! Please let Lumpen be scum. Please make Lumpen be scum. Please please please PLEASE. Murmur Twin posted:me/pera are scumbuddies? I loving WISH. god I'd give just about anything to be ""scum"" with MMT again. tl;dr - I guess don't really bother reading this one except for the top paragraph response to Asiina. The rest is ""fluff"".
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CapitalistPig posted:Lumpen Replaces Absurd revolver! Oh boy, here we go!
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 Hey people, notice how pera is ignoring my post against her because she can't think of a decent argument
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Rarity posted:
Noted, but I still want to see what the response winds up being when she does finally respond to it.
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Feb 18, 2017 22:48
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Hi lumpen 🙀 ##vote pera
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Not intentionally. And just to be clear, do you think scum!peramene would ignore the chance to test herself against you? Please give me a game where you're an SK and I'm scum and we can really fight. That would be incredible. Um, beyond fluff though -- this one?Rarity posted:This is a terrible answer, I expected better of you. Also: Surely this can't be it? I'll keep looking but since this is the one with the vote attached to it, if folks read the rest of my posts I think these points have been addressed. Yeah, this is me loving something up. If I had my memory like when last we faced one another it would be nothing at all but I'll check the timestamps 'cuz I think I've figured it out: Post one is at Feb 17, 2017 7:58 PM, right during a lull in T/D when I wanted to confirm (I'm not even sure this is a necessary thing to do btw would somebody fill me in?) since I saw lots of folks doing that glancing at the last page and at least to my eyes seeing exactly what I expected to see and... Post two is today. Feb 18, 2017 1:01 PM. I am referring to two different tomorrows, specifically, today the 18th in the first post - when I expected to be occupied with Other Things - and tomorrow the 19th in the second DID ANYBODY BOTHER TO CHECK MY WORDCOUNT ON ASIINA'S ANSWER? COME ON. Unless I'm mistaken the deadline is... tomorrow. 30 hours from now. Right? I'm hearing talk of votefinder being screwy so i dunno. This can't be the right post where you're hitting me with something, especially not with a response like that from IS. (It was clear I was referring to ABB with "the one", right? I'm sorry honey, either I need the Xanax I'm 23 minutes away from or something weird is going on.)
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the response won't matter because it won't be real or contain useful info here's what this post + other relevant and very inconsistent posts actually say peramene posted:Like this is an ethos argument and I'm willing to hear an ethos argument from you especially, and willing to cop to being ~new and unsure~ and definitely overconfident after six straight (town) wins but that - at least so far - I haven't actually seen the points you're making (yet). Regardless, what I had planned to do this morning isn't a thing and I'm stuck in bed so here we are. it's okay for me to post whatever because I'm inexperienced. I pointed out that I have six straight (town) wins as this game is unique because ???? hmmm peramene posted:BTW - regardless of what my role PM is, I won't be around tonight and will probably just skip the entirety of joke phase (I just don't enjoy it); in the spirit of fairness I will neither post nor read my role PM until the conclusion of joke phase. I will also try to keep my posts short. But... y'know. Sometimes a bitch has things to say, y'know? peramene posted:The day I get my hand on a loving scumdoc? I'm 100% in charge. D1, I'm going all-tactical, analyzing every single motherfucker in the game, their relationships to one another, every scrap of joke phase because every loving post matters, and my loving PEONS will kneel before me because they'll loving know exactly who they're dealing with because I'll give them a strategy that gets us lynching townies faster than you've ever seen before. No one will question my rule as - hell, it'll be FFX by then - I rise as Sin and destroy whatever bullshit name they gave to the world Yuna was born on (X2 was better - fight me) Instead, HERE WE ARE, once a-loving-gain. The sole solace I take is that I'll grab 7/7 wins easy but I'm not wasting my time loving around with realworld tomorrow's circlejerking. underlined parts are a result of pera being absolutely ecstatic about getting to be scum quote:If Tobbs is right and real poo poo is going on, and I've missed out, the very first time I've decided to flip the table in frustration? That's just lovely of me, especially to throw such a fit over it because I knew for drat sure CPig wasn't gonna let me have it. D1 lynch is gonna be town statistically speaking so okay but gimme some time to actually see if Tobbs is right and WHO KNOWS maybe I can at least contribute a little first. I hate the jokephase and D1 because I just don't get it even though I love joking and these people but it's always useless anyway except for every game because I think it's actually valuable and cannot be overlooked but I've decided to pretend to be frustrated with it for this game in particular and pretend to throw a fit anyway d1 is always a town lynch so I guess I'll just pretend to engage with the game and maybe post some relevant stuff quote:FF3 was a goddamn shitstorm if also one of my greatest personal victories yet imo. what quote:Pre-emptively I guess I should apologize for being a pompous rear end in a top hat in my first big post but I've googled my character and read (half of) MMT's posts and this really loving feels personal, CPig. But those of you who know and love me know that I can hardly resist a good grandstanding. but seriously though I googled my character and almost read some posts, I'm very much The Town's Great and Good Savior
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peramene posted:Like this is an ethos argument and I'm willing to hear an ethos argument from you especially, and willing to cop to being ~new and unsure~ and definitely overconfident after six straight (town) wins but that - at least so far - I haven't actually seen the points you're making (yet). Regardless, what I had planned to do this morning isn't a thing and I'm stuck in bed so here we are. This has nothing to do with anything but if you're going to claim credit for calling me as scum in Swan Song you need to put an asterisk next to your town wins record because town got crushed that game  With that said, I feel like constantly referring to past games probably comes off as annoying/frustrating/isolating for players who weren't in those games, so I'm going to propose we limit that in the future (unless it's something that obviously seems like it could be relevant, such as the fact that choice D was always bad in FF3). quote:If Tobbs is right and real poo poo is going on, and I've missed out, the very first time I've decided to flip the table in frustration? That's just lovely of me, especially to throw such a fit over it because I knew for drat sure CPig wasn't gonna let me have it. D1 lynch is gonna be town statistically speaking so okay but gimme some time to actually see if Tobbs is right and WHO KNOWS maybe I can at least contribute a little first. My gut leans town on pera right now, because (a) I don't think anyone (even her) would be that stream of conscious-y in their first scum game and (b) a lot of people are jumping on that vote and I'm not seeing a whole lot of resistance to it which makes me think it's a mislynch that scum is trying to help push. quote:Pre-emptively I guess I should apologize for being a pompous rear end in a top hat in my first big post but I've googled my character and read (half of) MMT's posts and this really loving feels personal, CPig. But those of you who know and love me know that I can hardly resist a good grandstanding. I have a guess as to who your character is and I sent it in to CPig so I can see if I was right after the game  Which posts of mine were you referring to when you said you read half of them? I don't really think I've said anything that would shed light on any characters in this game. CapitalistPig posted:Lumpen Replaces Absurd revolver! Hi Lumpen!
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