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It's starting: https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/833210635597049856
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I'm from NYC and Montreal took it to a new level
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Feb 19, 2017 08:12
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ded posted:People have brought up having Cali leave the union for a long time. It gained a huge amount of 'social media' support right after the election. It would never actually happen, but California is one of the few states that could actually leave the union and be just fine. Till it ran out of water. If they stopped growing water intensive cash crops (gently caress you cotton) and redistributed sacred water rights they may be able to reduce their need. Also massive desalination plants but those should have been started a decade ago.
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Feb 19, 2017 08:32
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LingcodKilla posted:If they stopped growing water intensive cash crops (gently caress you cotton and 'export only' almonds) and redistributed sacred water rights they may be able to reduce their need. Also massive desalination plants but those should have been started There is no way the gov would let cali leave. Purely due to how much tax money that would be lost.
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Feb 19, 2017 10:37
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Trump just reported a terrorist incident in Sweden. Sweden goes "EH?" Does this man just say whatever comes into his head?
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Feb 19, 2017 11:15
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Feb 19, 2017 12:21
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Man who salutes a cardboard cutoff of trump every day, interviewed by CNN, asks them to be nicer to the president http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58a91337e4b045cd34c2689d
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Feb 19, 2017 15:21
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Mosul op is currently going well, one group has penetrated 9km but who knows if they can exploit or even hold it. https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/833247794022514688 https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/833323515965235200
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Feb 19, 2017 15:44
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FastestGunAlive posted:Man who salutes a cardboard cutoff of trump every day, interviewed by CNN, asks them to be nicer to the president Okay, we'll be nicer to your cardboard cutout. But the real guy will get more crap piled on him, just saying.
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Feb 19, 2017 15:56
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Today is election day in Ecuador. This is relevant because the main opposition candidate that is expected to go to the second round run-off against the incumbent government has pledged to kick Assange out of the London embassy.
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Feb 19, 2017 16:47
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Guacamayo posted:Today is election day in Ecuador. This is relevant because the main opposition candidate that is expected to go to the second round run-off against the incumbent government has pledged to kick Assange out of the London embassy. I have no idea about this guy's policies or ability to lead Ecuador, but I like him based on this alone.
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Feb 19, 2017 16:59
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Guacamayo posted:Today is election day in Ecuador. This is relevant because the main opposition candidate that is expected to go to the second round run-off against the incumbent government has pledged to kick Assange out of the London embassy. 
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Feb 19, 2017 17:01
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So I'm going to throw a monkey wrench into this poo poo because I'm curious, why does everyone here seem to have a hateboner for Julian Assange and Edward Snowden? Bradley/Chelsea Manning I get because he/she was one of those little whiny bitch rear end intel spergs that was like NO gently caress YOU DAD and not leaking intel as some sort of altruistic thing. I'm guessing you guys don't like Assange because all the recent leaks were against Hillary which n the long run meant loving Small-Hands-Piss-on-me-McGee won. Snowden I'm not really sure. But I get the feeling a lot of people don't like either of them because of Snowden's obvious being aided and comforted by Russia, and Assange maybe leaks stuff that is being fed to Wikileaks by the Russian government? Help me out here I'm genuinely kind of partly ignorant about this stuff. I guess in the past I've supported them because throughout my computer geek obsession I've read a lot about encryption and privacy, which directly relates to leaks about how our own loving government spied/spies on us, which makes me feel leaks are a good thing because they keep the loving government on their toes instead of total carte blanche to just assfuck us everyday. But yeah, someone please give me a quick synopsis, I'm genuinely curious. Although I'm pretty sure I hit it on the head as to why some here dont' like Snowden and Assange.
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Feb 19, 2017 17:08
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Mike-o posted:So I'm going to throw a monkey wrench into this poo poo because I'm curious, why does everyone here seem to have a hateboner for Julian Assange and Edward Snowden? Bradley/Chelsea Manning I get because he/she was one of those little whiny bitch rear end intel spergs that was like NO gently caress YOU DAD and not leaking intel as some sort of altruistic thing. I'm guessing you guys don't like Assange because all the recent leaks were against Hillary which n the long run meant loving Small-Hands-Piss-on-me-McGee won. Snowden I'm not really sure. But I get the feeling a lot of people don't like either of them because of Snowden's obvious being aided and comforted by Russia, and Assange maybe leaks stuff that is being fed to Wikileaks by the Russian government? Snowden whistle blew on KFC's unsafe conditions but also leaked the colonel's spice recipe at the same time.
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Feb 19, 2017 17:15
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Mike-o posted:So I'm going to throw a monkey wrench into this poo poo because I'm curious, why does everyone here seem to have a hateboner for Julian Assange and Edward Snowden? Bradley/Chelsea Manning I get because he/she was one of those little whiny bitch rear end intel spergs that was like NO gently caress YOU DAD and not leaking intel as some sort of altruistic thing. I'm guessing you guys don't like Assange because all the recent leaks were against Hillary which n the long run meant loving Small-Hands-Piss-on-me-McGee won. Snowden I'm not really sure. But I get the feeling a lot of people don't like either of them because of Snowden's obvious being aided and comforted by Russia, and Assange maybe leaks stuff that is being fed to Wikileaks by the Russian government? Assange people hate because he's a turd. Full stop. He doesn't care about freedom of information or any lofty ideals, he cares about his name in the papers and on TV. He pulled off some great leaks in the early game (some poo poo in Africa mostly) then bungled the GWoT leaks in a way that almost certainly got a lot of helpful and reasonable locals killed, and then he fled a rape trial and excused his behavior by invoking paranoid conspiracy theories. Snowden hosed some stuff up and might not have been totally righteous about the way he did stuff but he legitimately did risk his life to leak really important information to the public and I personally think we ought to be more grateful to him. I think among vets you're prob gonna find a lot of people who disagree with what he did because it's bad for our team, essentially, but I think he did the right thing overall, even if he made some tactical blunders along the way.
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Feb 19, 2017 17:17
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I'm starting to think that Donnie stumbled with the Mattis pick, because Mattis is very obviously a rational person and that has no place in the Trump administration. https://twitter.com/DanLamothe/status/833346112425775104
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Feb 19, 2017 17:24
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The Trump administration really does not deserve him.
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Feb 19, 2017 17:29
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Mike-o posted:So I'm going to throw a monkey wrench into this poo poo because I'm curious, why does everyone here seem to have a hateboner for Julian Assange and Edward Snowden? Bradley/Chelsea Manning I get because he/she was one of those little whiny bitch rear end intel spergs that was like NO gently caress YOU DAD and not leaking intel as some sort of altruistic thing. I'm guessing you guys don't like Assange because all the recent leaks were against Hillary which n the long run meant loving Small-Hands-Piss-on-me-McGee won. Snowden I'm not really sure. But I get the feeling a lot of people don't like either of them because of Snowden's obvious being aided and comforted by Russia, and Assange maybe leaks stuff that is being fed to Wikileaks by the Russian government? Assange is a complete scumbag who pretends to care about principles of openness and whatever but even if you think that that isn't a total crock he is as consistent on that as Scalia was on Constitutional literalism. Snowden may have leaked some things that the public needed to know but he also leaked a ton of stuff that was damaging for no good reason and then he ran first to China and then to Russia so if he wasn't a foreign agent he sure as hell acted like one.
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Feb 19, 2017 17:30
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At worst, Snowden was a Russian mole. At best, he's an egotistical prick who got played by Russia. If the whole point of Snowden's "whistleblowing" was to call attention to a lack of effective oversight, why is everything he leaked a capability or tool? Ignore his "hurf de durf i could look up anyone's information" bullshit and consider that he didn't give any details of any oversight, rules, or reviews. It was all tools and what we were doing. If the oversight was nonexistent or lazy, you'd see evidence of that in the leaked material. The fact that you see absolutely nothing about oversight is entirely by what he chose to leak and not representative of reality.
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Feb 19, 2017 17:32
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Saturday's rally made it pretty clear Trump picked him solely because of the 'mad dog' sobriquet.
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Feb 19, 2017 17:32
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When asked if he was worried his leaks might get Afghan interpreters killed, Assange replied that Afghan civilians who work with the coalition deserve to be killed. He's also a rapist and has been a Russian intel asset for years now.
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Feb 19, 2017 17:32
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Alright you guys convinced me, gently caress Assange, gently caress Snowden less but yeah that was some stupid poo poo.
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Feb 19, 2017 17:41
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Let's say the republican's don't do poo poo against Trump. No one gets in trouble. Flynn fades into obscurity. Four years later and we have a democrat president. Can they go after the Trump administration over Russia? Would they be afraid trying to jail the previous president set's a bad example?
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Feb 19, 2017 17:42
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Reverand maynard posted:Let's say the republican's don't do poo poo against Trump. No one gets in trouble. Flynn fades into obscurity. Four years later and we have a democrat president. Can they go after the Trump administration over Russia? Would they be afraid trying to jail the previous president set's a bad example? two things 1) they'll absolutely be afraid of looking like they're picking on them or whatever 2) the fact that investigating someone for what they did is seen as bad is not really very encouraging
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Feb 19, 2017 17:45
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Two Finger posted:two things If you consider that the numerous investigations and inquiries into Benghazi were a response to the 9/11 commission looking into Bush's response/lack of preventative action, imagine the shitstorm that would happen if a Democrat did anything to Trump, regardless of how illegal and illegitimate Trump's actions were.
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Feb 19, 2017 17:49
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redneck nazgul posted:If you consider that the numerous investigations and inquiries into Benghazi were a response to the 9/11 commission looking into Bush's response/lack of preventative action, imagine the shitstorm that would happen if a Democrat did anything to Trump, regardless of how illegal and illegitimate Trump's actions were. I guess I should have realised why they were hammering Benghazi so hard. Anyway haven't you heard? Bush kept you safe after 9/11
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Feb 19, 2017 17:52
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Mike-o posted:Alright you guys convinced me, gently caress Assange, gently caress Snowden less but yeah that was some stupid poo poo. Here's a photo of Assange's dad and a goodwill team from Wikileaks meeting with Bashar Assad, saying they'll open an office in Damascus.
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Feb 19, 2017 17:59
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Snowden, manning, bergdahl and all them really never bothered me much, but loving Assange just seems like a straight up awful person so gently caress him I say
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Feb 19, 2017 18:01
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DHS is aiming to step-up ICE and Border Patrol by hiring 15,000 new agents total. Also setting up something called "VOICE", or Victims Of Illegal Criminals Engagement office. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0401_story.html Here are the memos, for your reading pleasure: http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/do...mmigrants/2338/
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Feb 19, 2017 18:02
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Two Finger posted:I guess I should have realised why they were hammering Benghazi so hard. Anyway haven't you heard? Bush kept you safe after 9/11 You don't like the PATRIOT Act??? ARE YOU NOT A PATRIOT???????
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Feb 19, 2017 18:04
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:Snowden, manning, bergdahl and all them really never bothered me much, but loving Assange just seems like a straight up awful person so gently caress him I say Bergdahl was obviously mentally ill and he was washed out of the Coast Guard for psych reasons like a week or two into basic training before enlisting with the Army.
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Feb 19, 2017 18:05
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Sergg posted:Bergdahl was obviously mentally ill and he was washed out of the Coast Guard for psych reasons like a week or two into basic training before enlisting with the Army. drat he had a hell of a recruiter
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Feb 19, 2017 18:06
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TheQuietWilds posted:Assange people hate because he's a turd. Full stop. He doesn't care about freedom of information or any lofty ideals, he cares about his name in the papers and on TV. He pulled off some great leaks in the early game (some poo poo in Africa mostly) then bungled the GWoT leaks in a way that almost certainly got a lot of helpful and reasonable locals killed, and then he fled a rape trial and excused his behavior by invoking paranoid conspiracy theories. Assange is a piece of poo poo that did some good things early on, but is largely in it for himself and has likely gotten multiple people killed with poorly done leaks, and then went off on rampant paranoid conspiracy theories and largely leaked against Clinton for his own lovely benefit, all while fleeing a rape trial that he knows will largely see him convicted. gently caress him.
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Feb 19, 2017 18:08
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To add to the Snowden part: He fled to Hong Kong so he had enough time to leak it. But because he gave the journalists the whole kabootle and trust them to redact it he leaked a lot of ways and means too. He essentially leaked the parts that gave countries like Iran a blueprint for how to setup and process metadata collection etc. Then rather then accept extradition to the US he fled to Russia.
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Feb 19, 2017 18:12
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:drat he had a hell of a recruiter Maybe you jest, but as covered in both Serial and Task and Purpose and the government investigation into his case, his recruitment into the Army wasn't especially weird, given the waivers and time of his enlistment. That doesn't make it "good," but his waiver to enlistment was pretty bog standard. He was chaptered under and initial entry separation chapter, likely chapter 11 (I can't recall for a fact if it was chapter 11), which can be for everything from refusal to train to simply not getting along with all the dumb military poo poo we do to failing tests to whatever. It's the less than six months of service catch-all. If they'd done a more diligent job in the Coast Guard and pursued the more rigorous, pain-in-the-rear end, time-consuming chapter 5 for mental fitness, he'd have at least a 2 year ban on enlistment and a far higher waiver to clear to be recruited. So what I'm saying is that our dumb war and surge and whatnot meant that recruiting people like Bergdahl wasn't a bug, it was a feature.
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Feb 19, 2017 18:14
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Is it true that the very moment Assange steps out of the embassy there's people waiting to arrest him?
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Feb 19, 2017 18:14
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Snowden is a retarded "information wants to be free" internet libertarian who leaked a poo poo ton of completely legit foreign-targeted programs and then ran into the waiting arms of our enemies. The fact that he was accidently correct about one of those programs being questionable doesn't make that okay.
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Feb 19, 2017 18:15
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Two Finger posted:two things You forgot 3) Nothing matters, pick on whoever you want.
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Sergg posted:Bergdahl was obviously mentally ill and he was washed out of the Coast Guard for psych reasons like a week or two into basic training before enlisting with the Army. How does that not set off a red flag in somebody's system? Edit: Should've refreshed. Godholio fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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mlmp08 posted:Maybe you jest, but as covered in both Serial and Task and Purpose and the government investigation into his case, his recruitment into the Army wasn't especially weird, given the waivers and time of his enlistment. That doesn't make it "good," but his waiver to enlistment was pretty bog standard. He was chaptered under and initial entry separation chapter, likely chapter 11 (I can't recall for a fact if it was chapter 11), which can be for everything from refusal to train to simply not getting along with all the dumb military poo poo we do to failing tests to whatever. It's the less than six months of service catch-all. If they'd done a more diligent job in the Coast Guard and pursued the more rigorous, pain-in-the-rear end, time-consuming chapter 5 for mental fitness, he'd have at least a 2 year ban on enlistment and a far higher waiver to clear to be recruited. Yeah I was joking. Prior service dudes are always a pain in the rear end but if USCG gave him a generic RE code like that it wasn't really that big of a deal or failure of the the enlistment process, but rather the separation process of the USCG IMO
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