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Of all the first 22 players who weren't selected across the league for the first practice game, both newspapers still somehow to make it a story criticising Jack Watts 
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Feb 21, 2017 04:51
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Saints are looking like they'll have a pretty much full strength squad for the game against Port this Thursday. The only major exclusion is Montagna who is out for a few weeks with a calf strain. Can't wait for the meltdown on Big Footy if the Saint lose. In other Saints news: Richo is replacing Buckley as one of the weekly coaches on AFL 360.
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Feb 21, 2017 05:18
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Periphery posted:Saints are looking like they'll have a pretty much full strength squad for the game against Port this Thursday. The only major exclusion is Montagna who is out for a few weeks with a calf strain. Can't wait for the meltdown on Big Footy if the Saint lose. They wanted someone who will be there come
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Feb 21, 2017 05:37
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Solemn Sloth posted:They wanted someone who will be there come Can we figure out a way that both Buckley and Hardwick get the sack as a result of the Tigers v Pies game in round two? Both will probably gone halfway through the year if they clearly aren't going to make finals. I do wonder how much the possible firing of a coach plays into the decision of which coaches to have on 360. It'd be great tv at the time of the sacking but could get a bit awkward after a few weeks.
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Feb 21, 2017 06:27
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To be fair 360 has already milked two years of "will he be sacked this week" out of Buckley I'm sad he won't be on the show because he was quite open compared to many other coaches/players in what he was willing to talk about, and he also made no attempt to hide his absolute contempt for Mark Robinson
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Feb 21, 2017 06:41
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Perkins owns btw. I had to do this, i'm so sorry.
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Feb 21, 2017 07:01
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gently caress. There goes the premiership and the best & fairest.quote:Marquee player Brianna Davey was also sent for scans following the Round 3 contest after a knock to her lower back. The injury is expected to keep the versatile defender on the sidelines for at least the next two weeks.
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Feb 21, 2017 08:05
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how many coaches have been sacked within a week of winning their last game?
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Feb 21, 2017 08:16
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Good news for Adelaide thoughquote:Injured Crows forward Kellie Gibson is hopeful of lining up against Fremantle on Sunday. Also Tayla Thorn was given a reprimand for front on contact with Davey
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Feb 21, 2017 08:18
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Periphery posted:Can we figure out a way that both Buckley and Hardwick get the sack as a result of the Tigers v Pies game in round two? Both will probably gone halfway through the year if they clearly aren't going to make finals. Robbo could hit him with some tough questions like "whaddaya w, uh, wwheres dyo think yyyou ugh I mean, what's deal Bucks?" e: just realised Robbo is the AFL's own Dr Steve Brule
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Feb 21, 2017 08:36
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Solemn Sloth posted:Of all the first 22 players who weren't selected across the league for the first practice game, both newspapers still somehow to make it a story criticising Jack Watts Isn't the story that he didn't reach required fitness benchmarks?
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Feb 21, 2017 08:41
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drunkill posted:gently caress. There goes the premiership and the best & fairest. Erin Phillips and Adelaide were always going to get those. 
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Feb 21, 2017 09:16
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Chairchucker posted:Erin Phillips and Adelaide were always going to get those. Close second, perhaps.
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Feb 21, 2017 09:26
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realbez posted:Isn't the story that he didn't reach required fitness benchmarks? On the one hand, we have a guy who has never had any problems with attitude or standards at training but has suddenly fattened up over the pre-season and can't be assed putting work in On the other hand, we have its the first practice game and Goodwin wants to use it to throw some magnets around, because based on last year he knows where Watts is likely to be round 1. Spencer spent more time in the Ruck than Gawn on the weekend, I don't think it means we're reorganising our depth chart around.
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Feb 21, 2017 09:37
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Yeah I know not getting picked for a preseason game says absolutely nothing about a player but the story I saw on the news was that he wasn't picked because he isn't fit and is struggling to get fit. Edit: like obviously I can't say if it is true or not but what they reported was he isn't fit enough and might not get fit for round 1.
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Feb 21, 2017 10:03
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pkid posted:Geez who told Dusty the best way to go about this was on A Current Affair of all loving places. He isn't exactly wrong though. If his past crimes, of which his last was over a decade ago now, werent enough to deport him then how is "being a bikie" worthwhile of one? The concept of laws that restrict who we are allowed to hang around with is just heinous.
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Feb 21, 2017 10:13
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Solemn Sloth posted:8+ weeks for Rougheads hamstring Tore the tendon where it joins with the knee, should be training by Easter
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Feb 21, 2017 10:17
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Nutsngum posted:He isn't exactly wrong though. If his past crimes, of which his last was over a decade ago now, werent enough to deport him then how is "being a bikie" worthwhile of one? The concept of laws that restrict who we are allowed to hang around with is just heinous. I'm pretty happy that people who associate with serious organised crime groups, and indeed play a role in the leadership of those groups, are told to gently caress off out of the country if they're on a visa.
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Feb 21, 2017 10:49
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David Myers broke again 6 weeks for a ruptured finger tendon. at least he shouldn't have lost any fitness with an injury like that
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Feb 21, 2017 10:50
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TG-Chrono posted:I'm pretty happy that people who associate with serious organised crime groups, and indeed play a role in the leadership of those groups, are told to gently caress off out of the country if they're on a visa. Unless you break a criminal law the government should have zero say in who you associate with.
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Feb 21, 2017 11:31
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TG-Chrono posted:I'm pretty happy that people who associate with serious organised crime groups, and indeed play a role in the leadership of those groups, are told to gently caress off out of the country if they're on a visa. Yeah this is babbies first step down the jolly path to fascism. If the cops, with the entire power of the state behind them, can't prove you did a thing that is against the law, then they should not be able to deport you because they don't like who you hang out with.
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Feb 21, 2017 11:45
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On the other hand, he's a kiwi.
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Feb 21, 2017 13:28
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Nutsngum posted:Unless you break a criminal law the government should have zero say in who you associate with. I am not educated on this topic at all, but isn't simply associating with those gangs in a public place against the law now? I thought that was the point of the "bikie laws" or whatever they're called.
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Feb 21, 2017 16:34
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cmndstab posted:I am not educated on this topic at all, but isn't simply associating with those gangs in a public place against the law now? I thought that was the point of the "bikie laws" or whatever they're called. His point isn't a legal one. Its a philosophical one. If the government starts chipping away at the freedom to associate of one group of people, where will it move onto next? Unions? Students? Its unlikely to happen but that sort of thing really needs to guarded against rather seriously.
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Feb 21, 2017 17:05
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cmndstab posted:I am not educated on this topic at all, but isn't simply associating with those gangs in a public place against the law now? I thought that was the point of the "bikie laws" or whatever they're called. Yeah and basically every single lawyer, judge etc who has the slightest clue has strongly criticised the introduction of such laws as absolute loving bullshit and harmful authoritarian populism. But that doesn't stop the herald sun/courier mail/daily tele readers from baying for them while simultaneously complaining about how much of a nanny state we've become.
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Feb 21, 2017 20:23
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hiddenmovement posted:His point isn't a legal one. Its a philosophical one. If the government starts chipping away at the freedom to associate of one group of people, where will it move onto next? Unions? Students? Its unlikely to happen but that sort of thing really needs to guarded against rather seriously. I was originally thinking more "banning minority groups such as gay/lesbian etc.." but the union/student thing is just as relevant. No better way to smash labour laws then literally make unionising illegal by considering them "undesirable groups".
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Feb 21, 2017 21:30
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It's not that outlandish given both the current Liberal government and the one before that has introduced laws specifically to attack unions despite them causing an increase in worksite fatalities last time around.
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Feb 21, 2017 21:34
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Nutsngum posted:I was originally thinking more "banning minority groups such as gay/lesbian etc.." but the union/student thing is just as relevant. No better way to smash labour laws then literally make unionising illegal by considering them "undesirable groups". Don't forget political action groups like GetUp!, Greenpeace, and Sea Shepherd
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Feb 21, 2017 21:40
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Lot of typical conflation of anti association laws, which are bad, with use of visa policy, which is an expected part of security. If someone is stopped at a port of entry and told they can't enter because of prior criminality, it is not fascistic. Also, to expect Law Enforcement to not collect information on the associations of major criminal elements is to say you think they should have no understanding of the criminal environment in which they operate and work to disrupt and prevent future criminal activity. That they be solely reactive. Which is Lleyonhelm levels of dumb. Needless to say, going to ACA to give a sob story about your father who has undoubtedly contributed to major negative trends in society is a sure way to get me to tell you to gently caress right off.
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Feb 21, 2017 22:09
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Actually it's not about security, it's about the ongoing politicisation of discretionary powers like the "character test" which aren't subject to merits review (a review is only allowed to consider whether the minister legally was allowed to make a decision, not whether the decision made was the correct one) There is a big difference between police gathering intelligence on criminal organisations, which no one here has argued against, and association laws. You're trying to conflate opposition to the latter with opposition to the former.
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Feb 21, 2017 22:25
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There's a debate going on about getting rid of the bounce, and I'm all for it. Sure the sentiment of keeping it is nice, but the flat feeling when there's a shithouse centre bounce is something the game could do without. Even the fact that it's lopsided just makes ruck contents unfair occasionally, compared to just throwing it up. Make the umpires jobs easier.quote:Jordan Bannister Interesting insight from Bannister.
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Feb 22, 2017 00:32
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Yeah, totally agree. The bounce is one of the least important qualities in an umpire (decision making, impartiality, cool headedness, game sense, fitness), it's dumb that there's a possibility for umpires who have all those qualities to be discouraged from umpiring at the highest level because they haven't mastered a trick. Also it will piss off a bunch of old idiots who dont know poo poo and probably last watched a game in the 80s, so added bonus.
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Feb 22, 2017 01:04
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Zero bounces in the AFLW and zero care factor in it being there.
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Feb 22, 2017 01:29
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There are ways to gently caress up a toss too but not at AFL level.
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Feb 22, 2017 01:32
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Bounce it at the start of every quarter to keep a bit of tradition in the game and be done with it.
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Feb 22, 2017 03:58
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Windmill Hut posted:Interesting insight from Bannister. I like that we still bounce it at the start of the quarter or after a goal, but he makes an interesting point. Get rid of it if it is really keeping good umpires out.
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Feb 22, 2017 05:32
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pkid posted:Bounce it at the start of every quarter to keep a bit of tradition in the game and be done with it.
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Feb 22, 2017 07:30
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I feel like the problem with keeping the bounce just for the start of a quarter means that they still need to train for it, which doesn't really solve the problems that come with having to bounce the ball over and over. That said, having one designated ball bouncer while they scale back to the start of a quarter and then eventually phase the bounce out entirely might work. I think the bounce is good for tradition and spectacle, but I don't think I'd miss it.
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Feb 22, 2017 07:47
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Install rockets in the ball, place ball on ground, initiate thrusters
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Feb 22, 2017 07:48
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Solemn Sloth posted:Install rockets in the ball, place ball on ground, initiate thrusters
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Feb 22, 2017 07:56
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