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Huzanko posted:Can anyone explain to me why it's so difficult to emigrate from one first-world democracy and immigrate to another? Cause first world countries generally only want specialized or highly skilled work as legal immigrants. Low skilled immigrants are "welcome" in that they are "needed" but will not receive legal protections.
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MiddleOne posted:Because citizenship determines which state in the world is personally responsible for you. Immigration doesn't have to involve any change in citizenship. That's an entirely distinct set of policies.
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Mar 5, 2017 19:57
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Subjunctive posted:Immigration doesn't have to involve any change in citizenship. That's an entirely distinct set of policies. I can't imagine the US is unique in having immigration and naturalization tied together, even though birthright citizenship does create uncommon issues.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I can't imagine the US is unique in having immigration and naturalization tied together, even though birthright citizenship does create uncommon issues. Most require legal residence for naturalization, but a country can easily admit immigrants and not provide them (all) with a path to citizenship. There are US visas that don't provide a path to permanent residency or citizenship, in fact.
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Subjunctive posted:Immigration doesn't have to involve any change in citizenship. That's an entirely distinct set of policies. Any kind of residency permits starts shifting that balance. It's why tourist visa's are handed out like candy, work visas are handed out but with restrictions and anything beyond that is a nightmare of byzantine checks and requirements.
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Subjunctive posted:Most require legal residence for naturalization, but a country can easily admit immigrants and not provide them (all) with a path to citizenship. There are US visas that don't provide a path to permanent residency or citizenship, in fact. Yes, but first of all, that is a decision the US has made in regards to how these two interact, not evidence that they are independent, and second of all, it gets very complicated when one is on an ostensible non-path-to-citizenship visa and has a child here.
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The US has a TN work visa that can be renewed indefinitely, has simple criteria (degree in certain fields, Canadian PR or citizen), is granted at the airport, and can't be used to apply for PERM (and thereafter citizenship). It's not like countries are saying "well if only we could keep them from becoming citizens, we would let in more permanent immigrants, golly gee". They don't want immigrants qua immigrants; claiming that the objection is based on concern for the philosophical institution of citizenship just doesn't hold up IMO.Absurd Alhazred posted:Yes, but first of all, that is a decision the US has made in regards to how these two interact, not evidence that they are independent, and second of all, it gets very complicated when one is on an ostensible non-path-to-citizenship visa and has a child here. How complicated? My sister was born in the US while my parents were on short-term work visas. She's a citizen, they're not, not even much paperwork.
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Subjunctive posted:How complicated? My sister was born in the US while my parents were on short-term work visas. She's a citizen, they're not, not even much paperwork. I assume that they, much like my parents, weren't interested in becoming permanent residents or citizens. What if they were, though? You get certain benefits from being immediate family to a citizen, particularly if you're a legal guardian.
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Yes, there are other paths to PERM if you are related to a citizen and you choose to take that path. You can have a kid on Monday and live your lives the same way, immigration-wise, on Tuesday. No complexity is thrust upon you, but you can choose to use the relationship to your child as leverage for PERM if you want.
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Mar 5, 2017 20:21
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Subjunctive posted:Yes, there are other paths to PERM if you are related to a citizen and you choose to take that path. You can have a kid on Monday and live your lives the same way, immigration-wise, on Tuesday. No complexity is thrust upon you, but you can choose to use the relationship to your child as leverage for PERM if you want. Yeah, and that means these two aspects of dealing with foreign nationals are inextricably linked in US law, which was my point.
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Mar 5, 2017 20:24
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Huzanko posted:Can anyone explain to me why it's so difficult to emigrate from one first-world democracy and immigrate to another? New world countries started massive barriers to new immigration int he early 20th century pretty much just because of increasing xenophobia after massive immigration beforehand. The old world countries have restrictive immigration regimes for outsiders largely because of rules for the Schengen agreement and similar treaties that eased freedom of movement for people from the signatory parties. The restrictions generally came from powerful countries that had started to have immigration restrictions for similar reasons as the new world nations ie pretty much just xenophobia. There were also of course very limited opportunity to immigrate between the Western and Eastern blocs throughout the Cold War for various reasons. These days no one really is pushing a serious lessening of immigration restrictions to the loose ones you had in the late 19th century, because frankly very few people care that much about loosening, and a lot of people violently oppose loosening. So of course the politicians aren't going to bother to push it in major ways.
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Condiv posted:Cause first world countries generally only want specialized or highly skilled work as legal immigrants. Low skilled immigrants are "welcome" in that they are "needed" but will not receive legal protections. kinda racist towards those whose needs are only met with special accomodations, which is quite rude.
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Mar 7, 2017 07:16
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(Anecdote alert) Hiring managers are giving extra scrutiny to ex-Uber applicants. Basically, "prove to us you aren't an rear end in a top hat, because the supposition sure goes the other way."
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Arsenic Lupin posted:(Anecdote alert) Hiring managers are giving extra scrutiny to ex-Uber applicants. Basically, "prove to us you aren't an rear end in a top hat, because the supposition sure goes the other way." Seems like it'd be easy to say "yes, the stories are true, it's a shame, and it's the main reason I left."
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call to action posted:Seems like it'd be easy to say "yes, the stories are true, it's a shame, and it's the main reason I left." Yeah it seems like this is one of those interview questions where the right answer is exactly what it seems to be and it is not secretively intended as an honesty test. Like "is it ok to take a few paperclips home for your own use?"
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call to action posted:Seems like it'd be easy to say "yes, the stories are true, it's a shame, and it's the main reason I left."
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Mar 7, 2017 19:57
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someone give me an idea for an app that i can get overvalued by insane levels because that rat faced snap kid is gonna marry miranda kerr and i want in on this.
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Mar 7, 2017 23:11
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Groovelord Neato posted:someone give me an idea for an app that i can get overvalued by insane levels because that rat faced snap kid is gonna marry miranda kerr and i want in on this. Tedium: It's like Fiverr but specifically for doing stuff like refreshing ticket sales websites, standing in line for shoe drops, and impersonating you at the DMV.
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Groovelord Neato posted:someone give me an idea for an app that i can get overvalued by insane levels because that rat faced snap kid is gonna marry miranda kerr and i want in on this. Ask a bunch of non technical friends for a their idea of an app. If it seems absolutely trivial, provides no value to society, solves no problems, and you think no one would ever use it, build it.
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My fallback is an app that lets you vote on all sorts of different topics and issues. You get the polls from content providers and forward the info back to them. You hold on to the data you gather. You can even let people buy extra-credit votes. Ones that let the providers know how many people love/hate the deal to spend money on it. You can market it as "You're good at getting info from your core market, but what about people who'd never consider your product to begin with? How do you tap into that?"
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RandomPauI posted:My fallback is an app that lets you vote on all sorts of different topics and issues. You get the polls from content providers and forward the info back to them. You hold on to the data you gather. You can even let people buy extra-credit votes. Ones that let the providers know how many people love/hate the deal to spend money on it. You can call it PyramidPoll.
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Mar 8, 2017 04:42
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Too global. Go hyper local. An app that tells you what specific flavors are trending in what neighborhoods and alerts you when the flavor profiles change. You could pull data from Foursquare and Yelp and GrubHub and Seamless.
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WrenP-Complete posted:Too global. Go hyper local. An app that tells you what specific flavors are trending in what neighborhoods and alerts you when the flavor profiles change. You could pull data from Foursquare and Yelp and GrubHub and Seamless. Too bad FlavorFlav is taken.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Too bad FlavorFlav is taken. FlvrFlv
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Proud Christian Mom posted:FlvrFlv Now that'll be a legitimate trademark dispute.
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All my podcasts are suddenly pushing Lyft. I've never heard a Lyft ad on a podcast before. I guess they're seeing an opening.
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Mar 8, 2017 06:59
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An app that analyzes a photo of someone and tells you how much privilege they have.
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WrenP-Complete posted:An app that analyzes a photo of someone and tells you how much privilege they have. Checkr?
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Mar 8, 2017 07:06
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An app that gave information on someone's big5 personality traits based only on the input of them singing Happy Birthday.
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An app that sends an escort to listen to you with the option of buying friendly, non-gropy hug. And that's it. No review can refer to anything beyond the talk session/hug session and anything that happens after that is independent of the terms of use of the app. This is completely legitimate and not a front for prostitutes.
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RandomPauI posted:An app that sends an escort to listen to you with the option of buying friendly, non-gropy hug. And that's it. No review can refer to anything beyond the talk session/hug session and anything that happens after that is independent of the terms of use of the app. This is completely legitimate and not a front for prostitutes. I'd like to invest $1 million for 1% of hookr.
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An app that matches single Americans to singles in countries with affordable health care.
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WrenP-Complete posted:An app that matches single Americans to singles in countries with affordable health care. WrenP-Complete posted:An app that gave information on someone's big5 personality traits based only on the input of them singing Happy Birthday.
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Mar 8, 2017 08:03
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An app automated to do complete those mindless "fill this, watch that, or push those buttons to get points towards a reward!" apps, preferably run in the background.
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Mar 8, 2017 08:31
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RandomPauI posted:An app automated to do complete those mindless "fill this, watch that, or push those buttons to get points towards a reward!" apps, preferably run in the background. "Amazon Mechanical Turk"
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RandomPauI posted:An app automated to do complete those mindless "fill this, watch that, or push those buttons to get points towards a reward!" apps, preferably run in the background. "Zenefits"
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WrenP-Complete posted:An app that gave information on someone's big5 personality traits based only on the input of them singing Happy Birthday. OK, OK, send a deck.
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Discendo Vox posted:Ooh, tough. I'll go with CakeFacer, brought to you by the Disney Corporation.
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WrenP-Complete posted:An app that gave information on someone's big5 personality traits based only on the input of them singing Happy Birthday. INTJr
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An app that scans USB codes and allows you to make a charitable donation to offset your guilt.
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