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Poil posted:Is it possible to make bots resupply gun turrets directly? As in not dumping things in a nearby chest and inserting it? Nope! You can have multiple guns feed from one chest, or have a chain of guns feed from each other, however (I wouldn't chain more than 2-3 when you get to higher fire speed techs)
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Aw.  I assume it's also impossible to make bots refuel and rearm vehicles without really precise parking?
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Mar 7, 2017 18:55
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Bots can only put things into or take things out of the appropriate logistics chests and your personal inventory, sorry bub.
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GenericOverusedName posted:Bots can only put things into or take things out of the appropriate logistics chests and your personal inventory, sorry bub. You could do some shenanigans, though, with maybe some belts to funnel your car to the right spot, adjacent to an inserter and requester chest... but that would still be essentially a 'precise parking' solution.
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Mar 7, 2017 20:11
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The more belts, the less precise you need to park.
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Mar 7, 2017 20:17
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I haven't been paying attention to vehicle equipment grids. Could you use those to make cars act like logistics chests?
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Solumin posted:I haven't been paying attention to vehicle equipment grids. Could you use those to make cars act like logistics chests? Not really, I don't think. You're still limited to the existing grid equipment and none of that (at least right now) makes the equipped thing work with logistics as far as I know.
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To refuel\rearm couldn't you make a "pit stop" kind of deal that's just a U shape of walls you can kinda slam into, surrounded by long inserters? I've never bothered to try, but that seems like it should work.
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Gadzuko posted:To refuel\rearm couldn't you make a "pit stop" kind of deal that's just a U shape of walls you can kinda slam into, surrounded by long inserters? I've never bothered to try, but that seems like it should work. Just tested this, works great
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Ignoranus posted:Not really, I don't think. You're still limited to the existing grid equipment and none of that (at least right now) makes the equipped thing work with logistics as far as I know. Wasnt the example given when the devs added that was a cargo wagon with a roboport? So at the very least it can act as a provider chest One would think.
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Critical update, I finally launched my first rocket last night.
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ikanreed posted:Critical update, I finally launched my first rocket last night. you should launch another 
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Mar 8, 2017 18:16
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Prototype successful! Time to automate and add to the logistics network.
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little munchkin posted:you should launch another Peaceful mode all resources maxed because I'm lazy?
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ikanreed posted:Peaceful mode all resources maxed because I'm lazy?
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zedprime posted:Don't start over. Do it in the current factory, but faster. Nah. I want new achievements.
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ikanreed posted:Peaceful mode all resources maxed because I'm lazy? nah just keep building more stuff the cool part of the game is the next 5 rockets are a completely different challenge from the first once (setting up trains, belting resources, massive smelting and circuit setupts)
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little munchkin posted:nah just keep building more stuff I've done all that before. I've played the game since like... 0.8? I just got bored for a while and never got to the new endgame after the rocket defense went away.
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ikanreed posted:I've done all that before. I've played the game since like... 0.8? I just got bored for a while and never got to the new endgame after the rocket defense went away.
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I've found I've been starting to hit a choke where I reach a point where I can no-longer keep my furnaces stocked enough to keep up with the rest of my production. I'll have multiple patches fully mined leading into my furnace system but it's not really enough to keep up with the demands of my base... I'm not 100% sure if I'm just trying to manufacture more than I can handle at this point, but it's become apparent I need more poo poo and just belting ore back to my base is no-longer working to fill a bus. This is about when I can start making blue circuits and stuff starts demanding lots of green circuits I'm guessing the solution to this is trains and robots to unload the stations and while I've gotten a pretty good grasp on logistics I have no clue how trains work There a quick primer or something on setting up train outposts to get ore back to base? I ask since one train seems simple enough but I'm probably going to need to run multiple trains and that seems a lot more complicated.
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For multiple trains, you ideally need a parallel set of tracks (one for each direction of travel) forming a main line going to everywhere you need trains to go, with stations branching off it such that trains from either track on the main line always enter the station from the same direction, and can't end up going down the wrong track on the main line after leaving the station. You then use signals on the main line and at stations to split the railway into sections/blocks of rail. Signals work by turning red if there is a train on any of the railway ahead of it before another signal is reached. (There is also a variant signal that blocks trains if the next signal after it that the train needs to pass is red. This is useful at for example junctions to prevent a train from entering the junction if the signal at the exit is red. This way the train doesn't block the whole junction while it waits, just the entrance it is using).
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Honestly the best way to use trains is to plan it out way in advance. Trying to "fit it in" doesn't seem to work for me.
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You haven't specified but you are using red or blue belts right? How many furnace blocks do you have feeding into how many belts of bus? If you're just looking to get into trains you'll need space, a lot of it, to build proper rail heads. Double tracks built with FARL (if you're going to play with trains, you will want FARL) and build up a collection of junction blueprints. There's even a mod now that creates train station blueprints for you. A railhead looks something like this Note: that is from 0.12 and some time ago but the principle is the same. Unloading docks and waiting bays. The railways reference image album is here: http://imgur.com/a/CxXxd
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Mar 9, 2017 13:43
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I want 0.15 already .
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Azuth0667 posted:I want 0.15 already Me too, that's why I've put Factorio on the back burner.
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Azuth0667 posted:I want 0.15 already You, me, the gardener and his dog too. To quote the clown prez: It's gonna be yuuuuuge! Till then I'm playing around with odd packs and scenario maps between playing tablet games and crappy free MMOs.
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Tyty posted:I've found I've been starting to hit a choke where I reach a point where I can no-longer keep my furnaces stocked enough to keep up with the rest of my production. I'll have multiple patches fully mined leading into my furnace system but it's not really enough to keep up with the demands of my base... I'm not 100% sure if I'm just trying to manufacture more than I can handle at this point, but it's become apparent I need more poo poo and just belting ore back to my base is no-longer working to fill a bus. This is about when I can start making blue circuits and stuff starts demanding lots of green circuits Also note that if you have multiple iron stations (or other similar) you can name them the same and the trains will route to the nearest one as opposed to naming them 1, 2, 3 etc and juggling them. I found this out embarrassingly late.
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Kinetica posted:Also note that if you have multiple iron stations (or other similar) you can name them the same and the trains will route to the nearest one as opposed to naming them 1, 2, 3 etc and juggling them. This runs into problems after your outposts go a certain distance out. It's illustrated in Xterminator's .15 simulation series. A problem with pathfinder being determined when a train leaves a station. I feel ya man, trains are intimidating when you first start off with them. Play with it a little at a time. Start off with a monorail at the next nearest Iron patch. As with all things, it gets better with roberts. Edit: With train signals, the trick is to use ALOT of them. Signals go on the right of the direction of traffic. I have a blueprint with two parallel train lines, two connecting power lines, a signal on each sides respective beginning, and a light to remind me which direction I need to plop them. KirbyKhan fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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Surely the way to "fix" that outpost issue is just to have a way station somewhere that just handles unloading things from one train set of trains and onto another? Doubles your train distance.
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I just put a train station close to the main rail hub, and have all incoming trains pass through it to refresh their pathfinding. After that train station, there's a layby where trains can stop and wait for an open space in their outpost.
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heh, that makes more sense.
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Neat, I knew about that for unloading stations, but didn't think about using that for loading stations. So you could wire up it to close said station when buffer is not full (or whatever condition) and make it part of a smart system... Problem is that I prefer to have unique station names.
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Am I the only one who checks to see if Factorio updated on Steam every time I see more than 5 unread posts in this thread?
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Alkydere posted:Am I the only one who checks to see if Factorio updated on Steam every time I see more than 5 unread posts in this thread? I think others just read the new posts first.
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No but I go read the Friday factorio blog thinking I've missed one.
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I found this on the Factorio forums. Dunno if it's part of the upcoming Friday post.  So tanker cars can carry up to three different liquids. That's pretty neat.
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The top pic was shown a while ago on the Factorio forums. While attaching them together is cool, I'm more interested in how they're filled and unfilled. The only visible inlet/outlet appers to be on top of the tanks so that requires a new pump to interact with them? That's great because using small pumps with the rail tanker mod is somewhat fiddly. **edit**: then goes on reddit and find Klonan stating the following: "Small pumps are gone, just pumps now, which pump faster, are 2x1, and pump in and out of the fluid wagons". Can't wait for 0.15. Dervyn fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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Dervyn posted:The top pic was shown a while ago on the Factorio forums. While attaching them together is cool, I'm more interested in how they're filled and unfilled. The only visible inlet/outlet appers to be on top of the tanks so that requires a new pump to interact with them? That's great because using small pumps with the rail tanker mod is somewhat fiddly. https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-155 https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-157 E: also latest FF: https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-181 So you read their forums but not Friday Facts? Weird.. Sininu fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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They should out the guys who ask for a key and then sell it:quote:There are some people who will try to exploit this press key policy of ours. The simplest attempts are just straight imitation of a famous Youtube or Twitch personality, usually hoping we don't try to verify any of their information. A different approach some take is much more effective. They will have a successful channel already, and email us asking for keys to review the game and play some multiplayer. So since they have some community for their content, and it seems like a good deal for both of us, we'll give them a couple of steam keys. However they don't cover the game, and instead sell the keys. Several weeks later, they will send in another email, hoping we've forgotten about their previous requests.
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That's pretty scummy. But it's not hard to make a list of channels who have received keys and spend a few minutes to see if they actually uploaded any videos a while later and if they didn't they get blacklisted.
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