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Tobbs Gnawed
Apr 4, 2007

All round mafia nice guy

Max posted:

I can't be positive but I also know it's something he loves to do, since he attempted it in the space game.

I think I wanted to kill infinitum but they went after you instead.

I reaaaaallly wanted to get you lynched, but CPig came in and sacrificed himself for the greater good (and we forgot I was pretending to be jailed N2).

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Max
Nov 30, 2002

Way to deflate my ego.

Tobbs Gnawed
Apr 4, 2007

All round mafia nice guy

Max posted:

Way to deflate my ego.

CPig and Diqnol insisting that you be taken out should be much more satisfying to your ego than me having it in for you.

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...
actually that was me???

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...
what about chores's ego?????

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Oy, chores, did you talk about Fisk at all I forgot and I'm extremely lazy.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Oh yeah, you did, you said he was NAIVE ANYWAY okay.

Tobbs Gnawed
Apr 4, 2007

All round mafia nice guy

got some chores tonight posted:

actually that was me???

I remember you being dead because of Max.

As an adide, Max isn't an SK because chores is very much alive still.

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
hey quid here's a summary of the recent conversations

tobbs isn't a killer because max is alive
max isn't a killer because chores is alive
grandi's thoughts are only for scum to know

well, goodbye

Tobbs Gnawed
Apr 4, 2007

All round mafia nice guy
Quid didn't quid at all was he on my scum list?

Tobbs Gnawed
Apr 4, 2007

All round mafia nice guy

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

Also quid and stickup scum.

K

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
that moment when you forget who you arbitrarily called scum

Tobbs Gnawed
Apr 4, 2007

All round mafia nice guy

this is a stickup posted:

that moment when you forget who you arbitrarily called scum

If it was random then it wouldn't be the names of the scumbos.

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...

this is a stickup posted:

hey quid here's a summary of the recent conversations

tobbs isn't a killer because max is alive
max isn't a killer because chores is alive
grandi's thoughts are only for scum to know

well, goodbye

all very plausible arguments

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...
now who would n1 kill jonathan fisk thats right its ##unvote ##vote quidnose

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
the vote count is v. cute right now

:c: The Current Day 2 Votecount :c:

Grandicap (1): Max
Quidthulhu (1): got some chores tonight
this is a stickup (1): BottleKnight
Tobbs Gnawed (1): Murmur Twin
BottleKnight (1): this is a stickup
Max (1): Pinterest Mom
CCKeane (1): Tobbs Gnawed

Not Voting (5): CCKeane, chaoslord, Grandicap, Quidthulhu, The Lord of Hats


:h: With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to be executed.
:d: The current deadline is March 13th, 2017 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 22 hours, 12 minutes from this post.

Murmur Twin
Feb 11, 2003

An ever-honest pacifist with no mind for tricks.

got some chores tonight posted:

now who would n1 kill jonathan fisk thats right its ##unvote ##vote quidnose

this is a stickup posted:

the vote count is v. cute right now

I'm going to go absolutely crazy if people once again discount Tobbs' completely obvious scum game to pursue other non-cases instead.

Max posted:

Half jokingly, Tobbs absolutely salivates at the idea of one day either voting scum me out or NK'ing me since that has yet to be reciprocated in our history together. I really think I would have been the NK last night if he had any say in it.

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You aren't reading what I'm posting correctly. I'm saying that I don't really suspect Tobbs because I'm still alive. He would have killed me.

Unless you're on his scumteam. :eng101:

But even in a world where you'e not, it's ridiculous to use that as a reason to call Tobbs town while ignoring all of the other suspicious stuff in his posting.

Max posted:

Tobbs normally does throw votes but he also throws a lot of alignment calls out there. I dunno what to tell you here though, I know what scum Tobbs normally looks like. He gets really aggressive and fights back against almost every accusation. This just doesn't look or feel like scum Tobbs to me.

You're confusing "alignment calls" with "cases". Town Tobbs normally throws a lot of cases out there. I'm defining a case as "analyzing someone's posts, using that information to come up with an alignment read on them, and fleshing out that read with quotes / questions / votes".

Max - how many cases has Tobbs made so far this game? Answer this with a number, please.

Do you find it at all suspicious that he's spent more time talking about other games than he has looking for scum in this one?

Murmur Twin
Feb 11, 2003

An ever-honest pacifist with no mind for tricks.
I just want to reiterate that the discussion of "we're going to ignore all the stuff going on in the thread and instead try and guess who scum is because Fisk was killed N1 instead of ___" is complete trash.

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now
:c: Current, Correct Day 2 Votecount :c:

stickup (2): Grandi, BK

BottleKnight (1): stickup
Tobbs Gnawed (1): chores, Murmur, -Murmur, Murmur, -chores
CCKeane (1): Tobbs
Grandicap (1): Max
Max (1): PMom
Quidthulhu (1): chores

:h: 12 alive, 7 to execute.
:d: Day 2 deadline: Monday, March 13th, ~11PM EDT. That's in about 20 hours from this post.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

MMT, I'm not gonna deny it's a bad argument but also I just don't think he's scum. This is the first half of the post that wasn't joking that you didn't quote.

Max posted:

Tobbs normally does throw votes but he also throws a lot of alignment calls out there. I dunno what to tell you here though, I know what scum Tobbs normally looks like. He gets really aggressive and fights back against almost every accusation. This just doesn't look or feel like scum Tobbs to me.

Similarly, how do you feel about Grandi refusing to offer reads at all?

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Quidthulhu posted:

I forgot and fell asleep :sun:

I'll read now!

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Tobbs Gnawed posted:

I don't see her play as scummy.

That, and scum MMT tries really hard, and I'm not seeing it this game.

Yeah, ##vote Tobbs. You know there's a contradiction there after agreeing with stickup's post and making a town call on MMT and are using a gut read to side step it. Like, there's a really obvious reason MMT is probably town, but MMT has to point it out and tell you she claimed the vig. Which leads to this post

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

Oh lol, I forgot you claimed the vig. No scum motivation to do that (and if the flavor happens again you're probably a serial killer).

So yeah, you're almost certainly town.

To which MMT's response captures my feelings exactly:

Murmur Twin posted:

So you made an alignment call on me without reading my posts first?

Adding in this and I don't expect to move my vote today.

Murmur Twin posted:

Don't forget the posts where Tobbs refers to a recent game where he was scum and then forgets about the same game when Stickup correctly points out that he's playing this one similarly.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


this is a stickup posted:

I'm conflicted as I think his opinion on tobbs is illogical, but he has a point about grandi

Want to take a moment to :yeah::agreed::same: this post.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Tobbs Gnawed posted:

I think I wanted to kill infinitum but they went after you instead.

I reaaaaallly wanted to get you lynched, but CPig came in and sacrificed himself for the greater good (and we forgot I was pretending to be jailed N2).

Hey Max, I know you acknowledge this post here

Max posted:

Way to deflate my ego.

But does this change your opinion on Tobbs?

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Sort of. I'm still hotter on Grandi and am still getting town vibes from Tobbs at the moment.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Fair enough. Wouldn't expect it to necessarily vault him to the top of your list so that's ok.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

I'm actually also concerned about Quid and Hats. Hats offered one single argument about AA, and it was a short one at that. Quid has given us literally nothing and we're near day 2 deadline. I dunno what's up with them.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

I still want Grandi though because I feel like there is more meat there to dissect if we flip him.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Quidthulhu posted:

##vote Jfisk

Though maybe Chores was right about Quid.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Max posted:

I'm actually also concerned about Quid and Hats. Hats offered one single argument about AA, and it was a short one at that. Quid has given us literally nothing and we're near day 2 deadline. I dunno what's up with them.

I have no opinion on Quid, and I agree with you about Hats.

Tobbs Gnawed
Apr 4, 2007

All round mafia nice guy
Doesn't matter, I'm probably going to flip today and MMT can continue her streak of always being wrong.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

Doesn't matter, I'm probably going to flip today and MMT can continue her streak of always being wrong.

I'm sure you'd eat a lot of crow if and when I flip town, right?

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

Doesn't matter, I'm probably going to flip today and MMT can continue her streak of always being wrong.

Got other reads? May as well get them out there if you are that resigned.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

I would expect a town player to be banging a hammer on the table trying to get people to go with them, especially since Tobbs claim on his read of me was very forceful.

So the woe is me bit doesn't follow.

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...

Murmur Twin posted:

I just want to reiterate that the discussion of "we're going to ignore all the stuff going on in the thread and instead try and guess who scum is because Fisk was killed N1 instead of ___" is complete trash.

i think they are both scum and i will vote either dont worry tumour win

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

CCKeane posted:

I would expect a town player to be banging a hammer on the table trying to get people to go with them, especially since Tobbs claim on his read of me was very forceful.

So the woe is me bit doesn't follow.

:agreed:

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

Doesn't matter, I'm probably going to flip today and MMT can continue her streak of always being wrong.

lol. mmt was right last time for the exact same thing you've been called out for here

##vote tobbs

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...
you frogett to unvote

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


CCKeane posted:

I have no opinion on Quid, and I agree with you about Hats.

Why Hats ahead of Quid?

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
I'm not voting anyone

forgot I was voting bk
##unvote
##vote tobbs

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got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...
[quote="this is a stickup" post="470276071"]
I'm not voting anyone

forgot I was voting bk
##unvote
##vote tobbs

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