Catberry posted:

You certainly approach this with.... Gusto.

Kanfy posted:

To elaborate a bit, the dude's name is indeed written "Gasuto" in the original, but since It's not possible to write just "s" or "t" in Japanese without following them with a vowel or making them a double consonant, that's exactly how you'd write "Gast".

Adding weird-sounding direct translations is one thing, but changing something the original translation had completely right is something else entirely.

Shoren posted:

Why not just go full bore and name the villain Sefirosu since that's how the end of his name is romanized?

Josuke Higashikata posted:

What was the name of that guy who was going to replace Cait Sith in that mod some dude was making?

Y'know the one, that mod where he was retranslating it to be a lot more faithful to the original intent of the script while also replacing an entire character because a big fat moguri betrays the tone of the game where you ride a dolphin onto a pylon to sneak into a military city not too long after being molested by a bunch of dudes and dressing as a woman and being molested by a singular fat dude.

Motto posted:

Oh I love Kuraudo Sutoraifu, star of Fainaru Fantajī VII

Catberry posted:

Do these translations make any sense then?

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Countblanc posted:

If Crime Hazard isn't canon than nothing is.

Kanfy posted:

The joke about Cross-Slash in the original is that it's called 凶斬り (Wicked/Evil/Misfortune/etc. + Cut/Slice) and the "cross" you see in the animation when you use the attack is that same kanji for wickedness or misfortune 凶 it has in its name. That one's impossible to localize with the full meaning attached so it works okay either way. If you don't know the origins, Cross-Slash makes more sense and if you do then Curse Slash makes more sense.

Blade Beam as Rending Light is alright in my opinion. The original's 破晄撃 which are just individual kanji meaning approximately Rend/Destroy + Clear (real obscure kanji by the way, only used in names) + Attack/Blow. That doesn't really translate well without it sounding awkward.

Climhazzard/Crime Hazard's name is kinda weird in the original too, but I think the consensus is that it's just a mix of "Climb" and "Hazard" that sounds cool to Japanese people. Crime-related it probably ain't.


Here's a cool fact, most of Yuffie's limits in the original are yojijukugos, basically 4-kanji words with idiomatic meanings.

Greased Lightning/Flash Lightning's original name is 疾風迅雷 (Gale + Thundercalp) which basically means "lightning speed". I like Greased Lightning more than Flash Lightning, personally.

Clear Tranquil/Tranquil Mind's original name is 明鏡止水, literally meaning "a mind clear as a polished mirror and serene as still water", so Tranquil Mind's pretty spot on. Fun fact, anyone who plays Overwatch knows this one well as it's one of Genji's lines (meikyou shisui), I think from before a match starts?

Landscaper/Heroic Strength's original name is 抜山蓋世 which basically means, well, heroic strength and valor. "Landscaper" makes so little sense that they obviously just went by the animation with that one.

Bloodfest/Blood Sacrifice's original name is 血祭 (Blood + Festival/Feast) which is pretty much the word for "bloodbath". The original's probably closer.

Gauntlet/Killer Blow's original name is 鎧袖一触, which means beating someone with complete ease or with a single blow. Killer Blow's definitely closer of the two, not sure what gauntlet the other one's referring to.

Doom of the Living/Ashes to Ashes' original name is 生者必滅 which basically means that "everything that lives will eventually die". Ashes to Ashes probably conveys that better but Doom of the Living is a pretty drat cool name.

I dunno what he calls All Creation but since we've come this far - that one's 森羅万象 which means "Everything in existence" or "All of creation" and so forth. If they've changed that one then it's probably for the worse.



And that's your completely useless trivia of the day covered!

Kanfy posted:

The joke about Cross-Slash in the original is that it's called 凶斬り (Wicked/Evil/Misfortune/etc. + Cut/Slice) and the "cross" you see in the animation when you use the attack is that same kanji for wickedness or misfortune 凶 it has in its name. That one's impossible to localize with the full meaning attached so it works okay either way. If you don't know the origins, Cross-Slash makes more sense and if you do then Curse Slash makes more sense.

Blade Beam as Rending Light is alright in my opinion. The original's 破晄撃 which are just individual kanji meaning approximately Rend/Destroy + Clear (real obscure kanji by the way, only used in names) + Attack/Blow. That doesn't really translate well without it sounding awkward.

Climhazzard/Crime Hazard's name is kinda weird in the original too, but I think the consensus is that it's just a mix of "Climb" and "Hazard" that sounds cool to Japanese people. Crime-related it probably ain't.


Here's a cool fact, most of Yuffie's limits in the original are yojijukugos, basically 4-kanji words with idiomatic meanings.

Greased Lightning/Flash Lightning's original name is 疾風迅雷 (Gale + Thunderclap) which basically means "lightning speed". I like Greased Lightning more than Flash Lightning, personally.

Clear Tranquil/Tranquil Mind's original name is 明鏡止水, literally meaning "a mind clear as a polished mirror and serene as still water", so Tranquil Mind's pretty spot on. Fun fact, anyone who plays Overwatch knows this one well as it's one of Genji's lines (meikyou shisui), I think from before a match starts?

Landscaper/Heroic Strength's original name is 抜山蓋世 which basically means, well, heroic strength and valor. "Landscaper" makes so little sense that they obviously just went by the animation with that one.

Bloodfest/Blood Sacrifice's original name is 血祭 (Blood + Festival/Feast) which is pretty much the word for "bloodbath". The original's probably closer.

Gauntlet/Killer Blow's original name is 鎧袖一触, which means beating someone with complete ease or with a single blow. Killer Blow's definitely closer of the two, not sure what gauntlet the other one's referring to.

Doom of the Living/Ashes to Ashes' original name is 生者必滅 which basically means that "everything that lives will eventually die". Ashes to Ashes probably conveys that better but Doom of the Living is a pretty drat cool name.

I dunno what he calls All Creation but since we've come this far - that one's 森羅万象 which means "Everything in existence" or "All of creation" and so forth. If they've changed that one then it's probably for the worse.



And that's your completely useless trivia of the day covered!

Kanfy posted:

The joke about Cross-Slash in the original is that it's called 凶斬り (Wicked/Evil/Misfortune/etc. + Cut/Slice) and the "cross" you see in the animation when you use the attack is that same kanji for wickedness or misfortune 凶 it has in its name. That one's impossible to localize with the full meaning attached so it works okay either way. If you don't know the origins, Cross-Slash makes more sense and if you do then Curse Slash makes more sense.

Blade Beam as Rending Light is alright in my opinion. The original's 破晄撃 which are just individual kanji meaning approximately Rend/Destroy + Clear (real obscure kanji by the way, only used in names) + Attack/Blow. That doesn't really translate well without it sounding awkward.

Climhazzard/Crime Hazard's name is kinda weird in the original too, but I think the consensus is that it's just a mix of "Climb" and "Hazard" that sounds cool to Japanese people. Crime-related it probably ain't.


Here's a cool fact, most of Yuffie's limits in the original are yojijukugos, basically 4-kanji words with idiomatic meanings.

Greased Lightning/Flash Lightning's original name is 疾風迅雷 (Gale + Thunderclap) which basically means "lightning speed". I like Greased Lightning more than Flash Lightning, personally.

Clear Tranquil/Tranquil Mind's original name is 明鏡止水, literally meaning "a mind clear as a polished mirror and serene as still water", so Tranquil Mind's pretty spot on. Fun fact, anyone who plays Overwatch knows this one well as it's one of Genji's lines (meikyou shisui), I think from before a match starts?

Landscaper/Heroic Strength's original name is 抜山蓋世 which basically means, well, heroic strength and valor. "Landscaper" makes so little sense that they obviously just went by the animation with that one.

Bloodfest/Blood Sacrifice's original name is 血祭 (Blood + Festival/Feast) which is pretty much the word for "bloodbath". The original's probably closer.

Gauntlet/Killer Blow's original name is 鎧袖一触, which means beating someone with complete ease or with a single blow. Killer Blow's definitely closer of the two, not sure what gauntlet the other one's referring to.

Doom of the Living/Ashes to Ashes' original name is 生者必滅 which basically means that "everything that lives will eventually die". Ashes to Ashes probably conveys that better but Doom of the Living is a pretty drat cool name.

I dunno what he calls All Creation but since we've come this far - that one's 森羅万象 which means "Everything in existence" or "All of creation" and so forth. If they've changed that one then it's probably for the worse.



And that's your completely useless trivia of the day covered!

Reiterpallasch posted:

"Gaishu isshoku" was apparently an idiom popular in the Japanese military circa-WWII; Shattered Sword translates this as "one touch of the armored gauntlet."

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Rirse posted:

Yeah, I tried about eight years ago to LP Final Fantasy Legends 1 here (SaGa 1) after having done the second game. About halfway into the game and LP I just hated playing it and didn't want to touch the game again. And thinking now, I can't honestly think of anything from that game beyond chainsawing the Creator in half.

Kanfy posted:

If I'm not horribly mistaken, this is the spell naming scheme FF has had since the first game from 30 years ago but they had to cut it down from ケアルガ to CUR3 or whatever it was because of space limitations and it stuck until FF8's localization used the original names.

Most of those changes are unnecessary or just wrong but that one's not too far out there.

Kanfy posted:

It's relatively well-known but I guess I should also include the fact that Omnislash's original name is 超究武神覇斬 which the wiki translates as "Super Extreme Martial God Supreme Slash" which is as good a translation as any for that bunch of nonsense. I'd install any translation patch that somehow managed to fit that in the text box.


That's interesting to know, thanks. I guess the 鎧袖 part refers to the armored sleeve/handguard of samurai armor which would make sense.

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Curious if you had read a walk through or any other discussion of the game's mechanics beforehand or were going in blind?

Cao Ni Ma posted:

I hope that remake Vincent is chuuni as gently caress.

Captain Baal posted:

This was actually pretty cool to know, ty for this

Kelp Me! posted:

Foi/Wat/Tsu/Zan/Gra or gtfo

NikkolasKing posted:

I just want to thank Catberry for showing me this since now I know my fleeting interest in playing with the retranslation patch "just to see something new" was a foolish idea. I am now 100% a conservative FFVII fan.

Catberry posted:

Y'all got nothing on the Phantasy Star spell names





I suffer through them so others don't have to

General Morden posted:

does anybody even remember the main antagonist in ff12

i had to actually think real hard to remember who the main antagonist was and what his motivations were

i think it's real telling that he wasn't even chosen to rep ff12 in dissidia

actually ff12 has a lot of problems, but i just wanted to talk about how boring i think that game was

Catberry posted:

Y'all got nothing on the Phantasy Star spell names





I suffer through them so others don't have to

General Morden posted:

i think it's real telling that he wasn't even chosen to rep ff12 in dissidia

Cleretic posted:

The only way I'd roughly begrudge them picking Gabranth over Solidor (who didn't even fight, anyway)

Cleretic posted:

well, remember that there's some other... interesting choices for villain reps in Dissidia too, they don't always go straight for the most obvious/most powerful villain. The fact they had Garland, Cloud of Darkness and Golbez as first-line villain reps should clue you in that their goal was to make an interesting roster rather than sticking to any hard-and-fast rules.

The only way I'd roughly begrudge them picking Gabranth over Solidor (who didn't even fight, anyway) is that now we're potentially getting a XIV villain we'd get Lahabrea over the much more deserving Gaius, by logic of him being too aesthetically and potentially mechanically similar to Gabranth.

Electric Phantasm posted:

"It's a hazard to crime so that's why it's called Crime Hazard."

NikkolasKing posted:

The last three boss fights are all against Vayne.

8-Bit Scholar posted:

Dissidia could benefit by choosing Ysayle to rep FF14 as well, she could probably play a lot like Terra.