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Mu Zeta posted:It's more of a nothing/white noise opinion. It's more boring than the people bitching about Skyrim or whatever. Well I am glad you have contributed something more interesting. This opinion is also unpopular because your post is actually poo poo.
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what is a higher tier country: the netherlands or the home of the dutch people
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Mar 14, 2017 23:02
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Holland, home of the dutch people, is higher tier than Netherlands because Netherlands includes the catholic south which drags the whole country's tier level down.
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Mar 14, 2017 23:08
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Can it cancel a hadoken into super
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Mar 14, 2017 23:10
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Rick is the least funny or interesting character in rick and morty.
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Mar 14, 2017 23:42
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vintagepurple posted:Euros who moan about US imperialism get a special shoutout, Europe had a shot at global superpower and collectively shat over the world so hard that the US looks nice in comparison, and half the Continent is still the sort of people who talk about the perfidious Jew and his lies. I know how easy it is to be socially progressive when your grandparents passed universal healthcare with the unspoken rule that it applied only to proper people of true (x nation) stock, but in practice the whole west is in the same burning house and we all need to address it. Europe never had a shot at anything because Europe has never been anything like a single homogeneous entity.
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Mar 15, 2017 00:58
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There is really no significant anti-US sentiment in Europe, and to what little extent anti-US sentiments exists, it is largely confined to fringe, extreme left or extreme right political groups, and are absolutely dwarfed by the resentment between European countries themselves, like Germany and Greece, or anyone and Turkey. Europe is so overwhelmingly pro-US that anyone talking about a European anti-US sentiment comes across as if they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about and are buying into some kind of Cold War scare of a big unified communist Europe that hates freedoms, which is frightfully stupid, as pro-US sentiments are massive in even eastern Europe. Eastern Europe probably holds the most positive view of US influence on world history of anywhere, including the US itself.
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Mar 15, 2017 02:42
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Almost no leftists want communism, they want social democracy. You still have private property. It is taxed to fund things like universal health care and various welfare programs. That is leftism.
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Grandmother of Five posted:There is really no significant anti-US sentiment in Europe, and to what little extent anti-US sentiments exists, it is largely confined to fringe, extreme left or extreme right political groups, and are absolutely dwarfed by the resentment between European countries themselves, like Germany and Greece, or anyone and Turkey. Now let me discuss Bush with your grandma on the subway. Jk, and idk if you're responding directly to me, but I mostly agree with your PHUO. My post was honestly directed more at americans than europeans but I went on a bit of a tangent. There is certainly a trend among both sides of the Atlantic to judge americans via pop culture and government but not so for citizens of x european nation, which irks me because we are 95% similar and all our nations have plenty of assholes who'd vote Trump and think Muslims are an existential threat. vintagepurple has a new favorite as of 12:01 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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Mar 15, 2017 11:56
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vintagepurple posted:The US has a shitload of problems, it's definitely not the best place to be born, but otoh it's pretty progressive in a lot of ways and not some dystopian fascist hellhole. Nor is Sweden or wherever some socialist paradise. Americans who moan about how uniquely awful the place has it need to get some damned perspective. As somebody whose country spent 350 years before 1990s occupied by various Germans and Russians, I'm glad that I too share inthe guilt for the collective European imperialism.
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steinrokkan posted:As somebody whose country spent 350 years before 1990s occupied by various Germans and Russians, I'm glad that I too share inthe guilt for the collective European imperialism. Prolly shouldn't have given up your tax dollars, you monster. Which reminds me, another lolful facet of US-Europe antagonism is that most americans are barely-removed europeans. My family came over in 1946, probably fleeing this fucker's exact situation! We're all in the same lovely breadbasket of hateful imperialism by rich people. PHUO is that it's silly how having grandparents that migrated somewhere suddenly stops you from being x culture in any way but makes you permanently y culture in exchange. Half-latina girl from San Bernadino, answer for the Trail of Tears!! If that girl gets blame for Andrew Jackson then yeah, polish folks get blame for Friedrich der Grosse or whoever. vintagepurple has a new favorite as of 18:41 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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The hijab is not feminist or empowering. Neither is Islam.
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Mar 16, 2017 02:48
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The Grey Album is kind of poo poo.
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Mashup albums in general are pretty dumb.
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My PHUO is that the world would be better if the proletariat across the world united in unity of purpose and spirit and threw off the chains of their oppressors, cast capitalism and governments into ruin an seized the means of production, working together as brothers and sisters to live for themselves and each other, and put facsists up against a loving wall.
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Magnusth posted:My PHUO is that the world would be better if the proletariat across the world united in unity of purpose and spirit and threw off the chains of their oppressors, cast capitalism and governments into ruin an seized the means of production, working together as brothers and sisters to live for themselves and each other, and put facsists up against a loving wall. A lot of people who believe this seem to lump "anyone telling you what to do" with the fascists. Which is dumb because 99% of people are colossal fuckups who need to be ordered around all the time.
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Aramek posted:A lot of people who believe this seem to lump "anyone telling you what to do" with the fascists. Which is dumb because 99% of people are colossal fuckups who need to be ordered around all the time. No, i mean litteral fascists. I don't think people in general actually need to be told what to do and people who seek authority are suspicious at best, but the ones i want to put up against the wall are litteral fascists. Possibly next to the extremely wealthy.
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Mar 16, 2017 18:51
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Just sounds like something a teenager would say after reading about The Peasant's Revolt or something. Has Communism ever worked out well for the masses? Honestly curious because I can't think of any.
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Nope. True socialism / communism is one of those things that look good on paper, but literally cannot work on a nationwide scale because humans are by nature greedy and selfish and communism is very dependant on having an unselfish and benevolent leadership. And if you ever find an ideal person like that (and they manage not to get assassinated) you might as well let them rule in a benevolent autocracy instead.
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Collateral Damage posted:Nope. True socialism / communism is one of those things that look good on paper, but literally cannot work on a nationwide scale because humans are by nature greedy and selfish and communism is very dependant on having an unselfish and benevolent leadership. Which version on paper are you talking about? I'd love to read some of them.
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Mar 16, 2017 19:29
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I think Communism could work in a Star Trek-esque post scarcity society, but pretty much only then.
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WampaLord posted:I think Communism could work in a Star Trek-esque post scarcity society, but pretty much only then. Well, that kind of society will never, ever happen outside of television. Obsession with communism is nothing but the political version of atheism - something you support to piss your parents off.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Just sounds like something a teenager would say after reading about The Peasant's Revolt or something. Has Communism ever worked out well for the masses? Honestly curious because I can't think of any. Collateral Damage posted:Nope. True socialism / communism is one of those things that look good on paper, but literally cannot work on a nationwide scale because humans are by nature greedy and selfish and communism is very dependant on having an unselfish and benevolent leadership. Sheer and utter ignorance.
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zh1 posted:Sheer and utter ignorance. Sincerely curious, where's it working?
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Das Boo posted:Sincerely curious, where's it working? If I gave any examples of its success, it would be met with propaganda which is pervasive and entirely swallowed by the people who post here. There's nothing I can say to you except educate yourself.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:26
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"We need to overthrow all the rich people who keep us as slaves!" "Okay, cool, but, like, who is we?" "I mean, everyone except me. I have anxiety and depression and I can't work or farm or help in any way."
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zh1 posted:If I gave any examples of its success, it would be met with propaganda which is pervasive and entirely swallowed by the people who post here. There's nothing I can say to you except educate yourself. Wow I didn't know political ideologies had their own "I'm not here to educate you!" types
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zh1 posted:If I gave any examples of its success, it would be met with propaganda which is pervasive and entirely swallowed by the people who post here. There's nothing I can say to you except educate yourself. Weird, that's exactly what they say in North Korea when you ask about Juche.
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zh1 posted:If I gave any examples of its success, it would be met with propaganda which is pervasive and entirely swallowed by the people who post here. There's nothing I can say to you except educate yourself. Answers like this make me think you view the soviet union as a success.
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Everywhere it's been attempted it's been a massive success. The USSR, Cuba, read a book. The reason I'm hesitant to even mention it is because you trifling children are getting ready to regurgitate some capitalist propaganda as we speak
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Answers like this make me think you view the soviet union as a success. Exhibit A. See ya!
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zh1 posted:Everywhere it's been attempted it's been a massive success. The USSR, Cuba, read a book. The reason I'm hesitant to even mention it is because you trifling children are getting ready to regurgitate some capitalist propaganda as we speak Oh, so you're just a troll then.
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Haha, wow. I was actually eager to learn there for a second.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:39
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Das Boo posted:Haha, wow. I was actually eager to learn there for a second. Really? I doubt it but here you go http://readsettlers.org/text-index.html
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Mar 16, 2017 20:41
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Someone pretending to argue for literal communism in 2017 is a bush-league troll? well I never
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Digirat posted:Someone pretending to argue for literal communism in 2017 is a bush-league troll? well I never
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zh1 posted:Really? I doubt it but here you go http://readsettlers.org/text-index.html "You sheeple can only regurgitate anti-communist propaganda" *posts pro-communist/anti-capitalist propaganda* also i mean come on this thing unironically uses the term "Theirstory" instead of history. How do you expect any adult to take this seriously?
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I am not interested in arguing that the truth is somewhere in the middle, but I think that both extreme left and extreme right wing political rhetoric has become part of youth counter-culture, and to an extent where it is often largely or wholly removed from any meaningful connection with political involvement, like wearing a Hot Topic Che Guevara t-shirt.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:"You sheeple can only regurgitate anti-communist propaganda" That's right, as soon as something real comes across your eyes dismiss it as propaganda. I hope everyone sees why I'm not actually spending any time on this thread.
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zh1 posted:That's right, as soon as something real comes across your eyes dismiss it as propaganda. I hope everyone sees why I'm not actually spending any time on this thread. You are, though. Can't you see how you are doing the same thing? You are hardly a neutral unbiased party. I could post any amount of objective sources saying that capitalism is good and you'd just dismiss it as propaganda just like you accuse us of dismissing your communist garbage.
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