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Any teams in mid to late first who could use a fairly traditional 4, TAKE JOHN COLLINS. I mean assuming he leaves.
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Rick posted:Earvin "Magic" Johnson. I mostly agree with this, but would add that I think Walton has been a bit of a disappointment to be honest. He has played Russell fewer minutes than I think he needs and applies unequal treatment to his players. Why does he allow Randle and Clarkson basically free reign and Russell gets benched for taking a quick shot or getting a turnover? Russell's per 36 numbers are pretty comparable to Porzingis but he is viewed more negatively I think entirely due to Lakers' coaching decisions.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:36
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Is LiAngelo Ball even considered a real NBA prospect? I didn't realize he was in college next year.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:45
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Paul Zuvella posted:Is LiAngelo Ball even considered a real NBA prospect? I didn't realize he was in college next year. No, he's the bad one
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Mar 15, 2017 18:05
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MourningView posted:No, he's the bad one His dad should probably be posturing for a chinese shoe deal for him, then!
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Mar 15, 2017 18:08
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I mean "bad" is speaking relatively. He's a pretty good shooter and a legit DI prospect, but he's really slow and not a great athlete. He'd probably be a mid major player if he didn't have two brothers that UCLA really wanted
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Mar 15, 2017 18:13
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Speaking of the Balls, their house was broken into. lovely thing to have happen while at a child's HS game. http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18913429/house-lavar-ball-burglarized-high-school-playoff-game LaVar was not as quotable as usual. "Everybody's all right," LaVar Ball told SportsCenter on Wednesday. "Chino Hills has got the best neighborhood watch in the world. As soon as you bust a window, they're calling the police. That's all they did, was break a window."
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Mar 15, 2017 18:17
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MourningView posted:I mean "bad" is speaking relatively. He's a pretty good shooter and a legit DI prospect, but he's really slow and not a great athlete. He'd probably be a mid major player if he didn't have two brothers that UCLA really wanted He has the most traditional shot out of the 3 brothers yet has the worst 3-point % of the 3, at least from what I seen. He doesn't have a left hand and he consistently takes bad shots, the latter of which has gotten Chino Hills 3 Ls as of late.
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Mar 15, 2017 19:03
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Their offense is literally "let the coach's kids take a million terrible shots"
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Mar 15, 2017 19:11
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MourningView posted:I mean "bad" is speaking relatively. He's a pretty good shooter and a legit DI prospect, but he's really slow and not a great athlete. He'd probably be a mid major player if he didn't have two brothers that UCLA really wanted Does he have the same funky shot that Lonzo has?
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InnercityGriot posted:I mostly agree with this, but would add that I think Walton has been a bit of a disappointment to be honest. He has played Russell fewer minutes than I think he needs and applies unequal treatment to his players. Why does he allow Randle and Clarkson basically free reign and Russell gets benched for taking a quick shot or getting a turnover? Russell's per 36 numbers are pretty comparable to Porzingis but he is viewed more negatively I think entirely due to Lakers' coaching decisions. I agree with the fact he is held to a different standard. I am okay with the minutes though just because Russell had two knee injuries the first half of the season, so there wasn't a point in him playing a ton. It seemed like they were just comfortable with him playing a bit more before the shuffle.
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Mar 15, 2017 23:40
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Latest Woj podcast is really trying to sell the idea of staying in school if you aren't a top ten pick. The argument is you won't get paid all that much anyway due to two way contracts. Also you don't want to go to the combine and then go back to college because teams have made up their mind on players who have done that, which is why like, Trier's stock hasn't gone up even though he's played better this year.
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Mar 18, 2017 00:14
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Rick posted:I agree with the fact he is held to a different standard. This is a symptom of his draft position I feel. He went two, Randle went seven and Clarkson is a second rounder.
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Mar 18, 2017 00:48
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There is a 7 foot guy with a 7'10" arm span in 2018
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Rick posted:Latest Woj podcast is really trying to sell the idea of staying in school if you aren't a top ten pick. The argument is you won't get paid all that much anyway due to two way contracts. Also you don't want to go to the combine and then go back to college because teams have made up their mind on players who have done that, which is why like, Trier's stock hasn't gone up even though he's played better this year. On the other hand, getting paid $60k to play in the G-League™ is better than getting paid nothing to 'go to school'.
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Mar 18, 2017 15:27
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Rick posted:Latest Woj podcast is really trying to sell the idea of staying in school if you aren't a top ten pick. The argument is you won't get paid all that much anyway due to two way contracts. Also you don't want to go to the combine and then go back to college because teams have made up their mind on players who have done that, which is why like, Trier's stock hasn't gone up even though he's played better this year. LOL at won't get paid all that much. Most first round picks make at least $1,000,000 the first year. The 4 that don't make over $900,000. Doing that and busting makes someone significantly more money than staying in college and watching their draft stock fall.
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Mar 18, 2017 15:32
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tanglewood1420 posted:On the other hand, getting paid $60k to play in the G-League™ is better than getting paid nothing to 'go to school'. D league players make nowhere near that, dude.
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Paul Zuvella posted:D league players make nowhere near that, dude. That's the estimated value of the two way contracts in the new CBA.
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This article makes Lavar Ball look like a straight sociopath: http://www.armchairallamericans.com/member-ball-family-lavar-has-not-allowed-children-to-see-sick-mother/ I hope his family doesn't wind up affiliated with the Knicks
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Yeah I don't think his argument was that effective in the end it felt like most of the old reasons why you go out if you're good still are valid. And yeah 60 K isn't gonna get someone rich but it's a solid wage right out of college, and the bleak life on the road that Woj tried to portray would probably actually be decently fun if you were in your early 20s (oh no, you're just taking a regular tour bus to a three star hotel in your all-expenses-paid travel around the country) and you just wouldn't know what you were missing by not having the NBA five star life style.
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EvanTH posted:This article makes Lavar Ball look like a straight sociopath: is this #fakenews?
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EvanTH posted:This article makes Lavar Ball look like a straight sociopath: Wow what a loving monster
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Rick posted:Latest Woj podcast is really trying to sell the idea of staying in school if you aren't a top ten pick. The argument is you won't get paid all that much anyway due to two way contracts. Also you don't want to go to the combine and then go back to college because teams have made up their mind on players who have done that, which is why like, Trier's stock hasn't gone up even though he's played better this year. It's worked out for Caleb Swanigan, he came back from last year's combine with solid pointers on what he needed to work on, fixed those areas (except turnovers goddammit) and now he went from pre-season projects as a 2nd round guy to a mid-late 1st rounder.
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PotatoJudge posted:It's worked out for Caleb Swanigan, he came back from last year's combine with solid pointers on what he needed to work on, fixed those areas (except turnovers goddammit) and now he went from pre-season projects as a 2nd round guy to a mid-late 1st rounder. I guess we'll see on the draft, but he wasn't even ranked in the top 60 a month ago which makes me think he could take another dip back into the second after the combine.
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euphronius posted:There is a 7 foot guy with a 7'10" arm span in 2018 Is he a huge stiff or does he have actual skills?
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Rick posted:I guess we'll see on the draft, but he wasn't even ranked in the top 60 a month ago which makes me think he could take another dip back into the second after the combine. IANA Scout or a GM, but watching Swanigan against Iowa State last night really soured me on him. He looked slow, useless on D more than three feet away from the basket, his O was all rudimentary moves by the basket that won't fly in the pros save a couple decent long shots, and his rebounding didn't seem to be anything special. He looked to be a below the rim big who might have a game suited for Big Ten play but I don't think it translates to NBA play at all. He might need to lose another 25lbs or so and see if he can translate to a wing since I think he's what, 6'8" 250lbs now? But his lack of speed would hurt him even more there. He could always come out and start making that D-League/Europe money, but he might as well stay four years at Purdue at this point. I don't know if I just saw a bad game or something, but I'd be shocked if he played a minute in the NBA. e - I wasn't watching Purdue's other big that closely but I was more impressed with him from what little I saw, seemed to be far more explosive. Would need more than a sideways glance, of course.
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I apologize for the hot take and I swear that's not what I'm going for but I really think Josh Jackson should get more consideration to go #1 than he is.
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Ty1990 posted:I apologize for the hot take and I swear that's not what I'm going for but I really think Josh Jackson should get more consideration to go #1 than he is. there is gonna be a whole lot of people saying the same thing reacting to this game
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Mar 20, 2017 00:24
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Click my post history for thousand posts trying to talk myself out of believing Josh Jackson being the best player in college basketball.
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How often is the best player in college a big contributor? I don't watch college basketball often, but the 2 years I did happened to be the Emeka Okafor and Sean May years so I'm really biased.
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cisneros posted:How often is the best player in college a big contributor? I don't watch college basketball often, but the 2 years I did happened to be the Emeka Okafor and Sean May years so I'm really biased. "Best Player" in the last 20 years or whatever almost always becomes a functional NBA piece. If they're a freshman they might get to be an all-star but if they're an upperclassman probably not. In the deep past it was different. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naismith_College_Player_of_the_Year#Men https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Basketball_Tournament_Most_Outstanding_Player#NCAA_Men.27s_Division_I_MOP_Award
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Rick posted:Click my post history for thousand posts trying to talk myself out of believing Josh Jackson being the best player in college basketball. He matched up well with MilesBridges who's a bit smaller and maybe even more athletic, one on one, that gave me more faith in him. But I wouldn't draft him 1 without a haircut. Miles Bridges is a work in progress
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Miles Bridges only took six months to take his headband off, it took Lebron ten years. E: in seriousness though I agree that was an important matchup as it was a nice way to show how he is different from the usual modern college wing prospect Rick fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Better shooter in the pros, Ball or Jackson?
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got some chores tonight posted:is this #fakenews? it's unverified internet rumor that seems mighty true to a large section of active online haters. I'm not entirely sure what #fakenews is, although I would guess it's a floating signifier having something to do with the speaker's negative opinion on the state of mass media and the discourse in general? Anyhow somebody asked the kid about his mom after a game and he said "no comment" rather than "what the heck are you talking about" so just like when people plead the fifth this 100% implies that the Balls have done the crimes but they will go to their grave to protect their best friend from discovering the raw truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89i6KhgaDeA
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Completing ignoring his hosed up shot, I don't want the Sixers to draft Ball almost entirely because he's ugly as gently caress and I find looking at his hosed up Frankenstein face and gangly body unpleasant and would not like to have to do it 82 times a year. Also he wears a t-shirt under his jersey so gently caress him.
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Markkanen is at least pretending his t-shirt is a shoulder protector. Lonzo is just wearing a plain white Hanes shirt under his jersey.
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EvanTH posted:it's unverified internet rumor that seems mighty true to a large section of active online haters. I'm not entirely sure what #fakenews is, although I would guess it's a floating signifier having something to do with the speaker's negative opinion on the state of mass media and the discourse in general? Anyhow somebody asked the kid about his mom after a game and he said "no comment" rather than "what the heck are you talking about" so just like when people plead the fifth this 100% implies that the Balls have done the crimes but they will go to their grave to protect their best friend from discovering the raw truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpZmveDNhio
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Jota posted:Completing ignoring his hosed up shot, I don't want the Sixers to draft Ball almost entirely because he's ugly as gently caress and I find looking at his hosed up Frankenstein face and gangly body unpleasant and would not like to have to do it 82 times a year. Lonzo on the Sixers would be fun as gently caress. He's behind Fultz and Jackson on my Sixers wish list but I'd be more than happy if Philly came away with him. Lonzo, Simmons, and Saric on the floor together would vine heaven.
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Jota posted:Completing ignoring his hosed up shot, I don't want the Sixers to draft Ball almost entirely because he's ugly as gently caress and I find looking at his hosed up Frankenstein face and gangly body unpleasant and would not like to have to do it 82 times a year. that's backwards to me. Way back years ago I reversed my evaluation of Cody Zeller from trash to very promising once I finally seen a picture of him in profile and realized that he was, in fact, not just ugly but hugely ugly in a kinda Marv-from-Sin-City lookin' goon-type monster-person children must run and hide and people are too embarrassed to ask what happened type of way. When you see a dude like Walking Crest-Advertisement Michael Jordan or Banana Republic Model Kevin Love come into the league you're like hmm maybe this guy is just coasting on his looks, but when you've got something seriously hosed up like Zeller or AD* you know there must be some real serious talent going on There are important roles for ugly dudes in the modern NBA. *although I guess AD's got braces not sure what Zeller could do about his whole thing
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