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C. Everett Koop posted:On the other hand, Tyler Hansbrough. He was picked in the lottery, though.
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Lol at Dirk still being in the league while Psycho T is already out.
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As a Kings fan, should be I happy if we get Miles Bridges with the Pelicans pick?
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I wouldn't be shocked if Justin Jackson is like the MCW of the next draft (guy who has one of the better seasons among drafted rookies but probaly hits his ceiling there).
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Mar 23, 2017 19:24
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As I said earlier, your feeling on the UNC Jackson is going to depend on whether or not you buy him suddenly shooting 10% better from 3 being sustainable. The biggest reason he fell in the first place was that he never developed as a shooter the way people hoped he would out of high school. He is now but generally it's right to be suspicious of sudden dramatic improvement late in your college career when you're older than most of the people you're playing against
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Mar 23, 2017 19:30
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MourningView posted:As I said earlier, your feeling on the UNC Jackson is going to depend on whether or not you buy him suddenly shooting 10% better from 3 being sustainable. The biggest reason he fell in the first place was that he never developed as a shooter the way people hoped he would out of high school. He is now but generally it's right to be suspicious of sudden dramatic improvement late in your college career when you're older than most of the people you're playing against Is he a better athlete than he looks from the clips I've seen? Granted most of those are showing off his shot but he looks average for a pro prospect
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MourningView posted:As I said earlier, your feeling on the UNC Jackson is going to depend on whether or not you buy him suddenly shooting 10% better from 3 being sustainable. The biggest reason he fell in the first place was that he never developed as a shooter the way people hoped he would out of high school. He is now but generally it's right to be suspicious of sudden dramatic improvement late in your college career when you're older than most of the people you're playing against WesJohnson.txt
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Mar 23, 2017 19:45
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Rick posted:I wouldn't be shocked if Justin Jackson is like the MCW of the next draft (guy who has one of the better seasons among drafted rookies but probaly hits his ceiling there). I feel like this description needs the qualifier that the rookie class is poo poo which doesn't (in theory) describe this class at all
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Mar 23, 2017 20:52
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WhyteRyce posted:As a Kings fan, should be I happy if we get Miles Bridges with the Pelicans pick? I honestly don't know. I thought early his game had too much post play, but he's picked up playing the wing pretty effectively. He's not as quick or as crafty around the basket as Tatum and Josh Jackson and maybe that might take a lot of what he does off the table in the NBA. But it's hard to draw that line firmly when he's playing against college players.
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IcePhoenix posted:I feel like this description needs the qualifier that the rookie class is poo poo which doesn't (in theory) describe this class at all It's not but it's still pretty young and likely to struggle next year. Justin J. might contribute modestly fairly quickly. Like I won't be shocked if Fultz comes out the gate great but he's likely going to Boston who might have a short leash on him.
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Draft Express/The Vertical has a new mock draft up: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-vertical-mock-draft-version-2-0-135637001.html Looks like this is the first one where Givony tries to take team need into account
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Mar 24, 2017 01:52
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Man more and more mocks putting Fox ahead of Dennis Smith. That's nuts.
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Someone tell me about the guy with the best name in this draft, Alpha Kaba.
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Spacebump posted:Someone tell me about the guy with the best name in this draft, Alpha Kaba. Omer Yurtseven
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R.D. Mangles posted:Omer Yurtseven
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R.D. Mangles posted:Omer Yurtseven Where's Omer He's in yurt seven
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Josh Jackson is credibly defending Miles Bridges and Biggie Swabian on B2B nights. This dude is going to be ridiculous on that end
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straight up brolic posted:Josh Jackson is credibly defending Miles Bridges and Biggie Swabian on B2B nights. This dude is going to be ridiculous on that end Yeah, it's incredible watching him. His potential is unreal. Him looking like he has a really good chance to be a lockdown wing defender at the next level is what seals him being ahead of Ball for me.
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How do you guys like the Iguodala comp for Jackson? I've seen it a lot and I know comps are really reductive and lazy but it does seem on point. Of course, I am a terrible scout.
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Rick posted:Man more and more mocks putting Fox ahead of Dennis Smith. That's nuts. Fox is gonna be one of those Elfrid Payton type guys who is good enough sporadically to start for way to long and kill his team Criminal Minded posted:How do you guys like the Iguodala comp for Jackson? I've seen it a lot and I know comps are really reductive and lazy but it does seem on point. Of course, I am a terrible scout. It's pretty good I think. Dunno if I like him quite as much defensively but they have really similar offensive games and playmaking abilities. I don't really get the Tatum/Jackson debate I've seen pop up, I like Jackson a lot more. They have similar weaknesses but Jacksons an elite athlete and Tatum isn't MourningView fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Yeah it's a solid comp, Iguodala and Jackson. I feel like Jackson is more athletic but that might be recency bias. And yeah, just not a lot of question to me about Tatum vs Jackson. Jackson's a lot better. Maybe Tatum can adapt a little better to being a small ball PF, maybe. But everything else is in Jackson's favor.
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Will Jackson be able to guard 1-4 or is he's going to be better off sticking just 3-4s?
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Only prospect that matters http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dejan-Todorovic-48923/
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Ty1990 posted:Will Jackson be able to guard 1-4 or is he's going to be better off sticking just 3-4s? 1-4.
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He's gonna have to bulk up a lot before he can guard 4s
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MourningView posted:He's gonna have to bulk up a lot before he can guard 4s Yeah that's the one where I'm doubtful, even with weight gain, unless it's a :New NBA: power forward.
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Dejan Bimble posted:Only prospect that matters I wish your brother, in this culture where surnames come first, the best of luck.
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Rick posted:Yeah it's a solid comp, Iguodala and Jackson. I feel like Jackson is more athletic but that might be recency bias. Iggy used to be like Mini-LeBron out there, one of the most athletic dudes on the planet, but he's not anymore as of a few years now. Is that what you mean recency? Or you mean Jackson is sticking out because you viewed him recent?
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Young Iggy had more burst than Josh I feel but didn't get as high. From the little I've seen of him, Josh's gliding athleticism reminds me of Darius Miles.
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Young Iggy was absolutely able to get up. He was strong too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltE0I1VpGKU (start 39 seconds in, stupid SA won't let me start at a time period. His game has adjusted as he's gotten older, but he was well above average athletically.
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Which games/prospects are the best to watch in tonight's games?
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EvanTH posted:Iggy used to be like Mini-LeBron out there, one of the most athletic dudes on the planet, but he's not anymore as of a few years now. Is that what you mean recency? Or you mean Jackson is sticking out because you viewed him recent? Sticking out because viewing recently.
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Lockback posted:Young Iggy was absolutely able to get up. He was strong too. Didn't say he wasn't able to, just think Josh has an easier time getting up there like Darius did, both of whom are about 2-3 inches taller than Iggy. That vid is great at showing Iggy's burst, which I noted. Boosh! fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 18:48
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Spacebump posted:Which games/prospects are the best to watch in tonight's games? Well Kentucky is playing UCLA so pretty much everyone starting in that game, but more specifically Ball, Monk and Fox.
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TJ Leaf will prob be a mid lottery pick too
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I think I like Leaf more than I like Fox but he won't go as high The other games have guys who will get a look and could go late first/second round but no real huge prospects MourningView fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltE0I1VpGKU&t=29s Lockback posted:Young Iggy was absolutely able to get up. He was strong too. It should automatically do it if you C&P in the deep link, but you can edit it in with start="29" in the video tag (I put it in up top for example so it doesn't disappear in a quote) Either way yahhhh that video's got exactly what I meant by Mini-LeBron, he doesn't seem to float in the air like some dudes so much as he power-streaks through it. Man I love his reach on them dunks. Also similar shooting issues. Rick posted:Sticking out because viewing recently. ahh, gotcha.
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I wouldn't put too much stock in it, but Ball was pretty well exposed by UK and Fox tonight. Finally someone defended him at the body from NBA range and in and his shot missed short every single time in the second half. I've hated him in Ball pressure against NBA athletes all season.
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It's not really that I'm putting much stock in it tonight, it's just that it's been the general pattern as you pointed out. Arizona doesn't really have NBA talent at guards and were able to mostly do the same to him.
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