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True, a television show about a robot boy named Mega Man battling the evil forces of Dr. Wily isn't at all like Mega Man. Certainly not someone transforming into Mega Man except for all the games where someone transforms into Mega Man, nor the actual stated backstory of Mega Man has a regular robot boy repurposed into a combat robot or where an iconic visual of the character isn't standing with his helmet off until he dons it to dramatically go fight evil.
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Mar 25, 2017 01:41
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there's a difference between a normal robot asking for modifications so he can fight, and a kid just randomly turning into megaman i mean i agree some people are being dumb about this but you're also being kind of willfully obtuse
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Mar 25, 2017 02:11
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Takoluka posted:Like, the Ruby-Spears MM cartoon was actively terrible in its portrayal of literally every character from Mega Man at the time, but 90s nostalgia makes it good, I guess? It was a product of its time, and I think we all enjoyed it then, but it hasn't aged well. As a child I couldn't enjoy the show, and I consumed some blatant poo poo. Just never appealed. The new show looks better in that regard, hope it does well. Does anyone else think we're getting closer to a release of MMX: Corrupted? They've been streaming more often on Youtube...
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Mar 25, 2017 02:16
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Endorph posted:there's a difference between a normal robot asking for modifications so he can fight, and a kid just randomly turning into megaman From how it was described the plot is literally that the protagonist is a robot kid who turns into Mega Man for his fighting form. It isn't at all "oh he's just randomly Mega Man for no reason" and that seems like a pretty willfully obtuse statement on your own. Like even at the absolute worst do you genuinely think the plot of this show is "a kid randomly turns into Mega Man for no reason?" Does that seem remotely plausible and not "A kid turns into Mega Man for a reason that is explained in the plot" like in Star Force or ZX? ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Mar 25, 2017 02:18
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i mean ive seen adaptations of kids' stuff that's just been 'the kid turns into the protagonist of the actual thing for no reason,' yeah
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Mar 25, 2017 02:24
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Or, um, Marvel: Disc Wars.
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Mar 25, 2017 02:24
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Endorph posted:i mean ive seen adaptations of kids' stuff that's just been 'the kid turns into the protagonist of the actual thing for no reason,' yeah Like what? I can think of some genuinely batshit licensed tie-ins but not any that are "and a guy turns into Batman for no reason with no connection or plot explanation or any justification at all." I mean I guess like Toei Spider-Man has no reason to be Spider-Man but is also from several decades ago. Caphi posted:Or, um, Marvel: Disc Wars. Marvel Disc Wars is stupid but has an actual in-story reason for what it does? It isn't "for no reason at all" and they have a bizarre backstory involving capturing supervillains to explain why the tech even exists.
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Mar 25, 2017 02:26
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transformers kiss players, op 
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Mar 25, 2017 02:31
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Endorph posted:transformers kiss players, op ... I was not aware anyone in Transformers Kiss Players turned into a Transformer but also have absolutely no interest in finding out more so I will assume you are right and concede the point.
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Mar 25, 2017 02:31
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i mean to be fair it also isn't aimed at kids that said, iunno, the new megaman cartoon just looks kinda bad artstyle-wise and people can have some misgivings about the direction of the franchise from there. if it does well then there'll be games based on it and even if the games aren't terrible it'll use the same artstyle (which is bad in a lot of people's eyes) and if it does poorly capcom'll probably just shelf mega for a bit again.
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Mar 25, 2017 02:33
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Endorph posted:i mean to be fair it also isn't aimed at kids I don't think there's anything wrong with being unhappy with the new cartoon. It's the "it's not MEGA MAN and they HATE THE FANS" stuff I find dumb. It's entirely possible for something to be both accurate to the concept of Mega Man and not very good. I think it would also make more sense to be worried if Mega Man wasn't an effectively dead franchise that had been languishing in obscurity for ages and the last time it was meaningfully popular was when it was doing something wildly different from the classic Mega Man. The fear this will 'for real kill Mega Man" would involve Mega Man being a lot more alive a franchise than it is. The last 'main' Mega Man game was... what, 2010? ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Mar 25, 2017 02:35
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i mean it does have some differences from the source material that people can find detract from what they find appealing about the franchise, even just design-wise. Just aesthetics are a large part of what defines a franchise. Using your castlevania example, Simon Belmont in the Captain N cartoon sucked just because he looked stupid in a way that didn't fit the franchise's appeal at all. the 'hate the fans' stuff is dumb tho, agreed
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Mar 25, 2017 02:36
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Mr. Maltose posted:Regardless of actual quality, it's not the height of creativity to make Megaman/Streets of Fire fan fiction. Says you.
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Mar 25, 2017 02:39
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Endorph posted:megaman looks like he's a static object being flown around the screen like in a newgrounds flash and somehow looks incredibly disinterested in having just kicked fire man in the face I wish I could find the gif i saw of one of the Avengers cartoons, which he worked on before Mega Man, it was literally this except with Marvel characters.
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Mar 25, 2017 02:41
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MM fans have had a weird persecution complex for a while. Nobody here's gone this far, but in the comments for any given piece of rando MM merch you see people going on about how it's yet another slight against them personally.
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Mar 25, 2017 02:41
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people thinking bad box art megaman was put in street fighter x tekken as a personal gently caress you to people who wanted legends 3, and not as a wacky joke
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Mar 25, 2017 02:43
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Endorph posted:people thinking bad box art megaman was put in street fighter x tekken as a personal gently caress you to people who wanted legends 3, and not as a wacky joke the gently caress you was that the game he was in was sfxt
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Mar 25, 2017 02:43
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http://streetfighterxtekken.wikia.com/wiki/Bad_Box_Art_Mega_Man
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Mar 25, 2017 02:50
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oh wait i misunderstood that post wildly
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Mar 25, 2017 02:52
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I think it's also worth noting with BBAMM that the joke began with Mega Man Universe, it wasn't a random out-of-nowhere thing.
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Mar 25, 2017 02:52
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This cartoon will suck but I fully expect it'll be better than the upcoming Castlevania Netflix series.
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Mar 25, 2017 02:54
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Found a mirror link for the cartoon promo if anyone feels like being depressed tonight. Better hurry cus I'm sure someone will take this down too: https://www.gamereactor.no/grtv/?id=307543 I will say...the CG actually looks pretty good. But yeah, this is clearly for the K-Grade 5 crowd. It seems to follow all the same annoying tropes all the non stellar cartoon shows of the major networks follow. (stellar as in reaching to adult demographs they're so good, such as Steven Universe, Star VS The Forces of Evil, Regular Show, or Gravity Falls. Adventure Time kiiiiiiiinda) It's playing it super safe and being every cartoon pretty much exclusively for kids since 2007. So I mean, whatever. I can just ignore it and hope (some kids somewhere) enjoy it. Who knows, good sales of the show could mean other MegaMan projects being funded for the older fans who have been waiting a decade for something. Though I do hope Mega Mini gets stepped on. Even as a hyperactive 8 year old at the height of my MegaMan obsession I would have hated that thing. LemonLimeTime fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Mar 25, 2017 02:56
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That CG TMNT show that's running right now is easily the best show that franchise has ever had.
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Mar 25, 2017 02:57
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:This cartoon will suck but I fully expect it'll be better than the upcoming Castlevania Netflix series. yeah the last thing castlevania needs is a guy talking about how dark and edgy it'll be. that just sounds like an adaptation of lords of shadow or something. the actually good castlevania games are cheesy as gently caress and use gothic/horror stuff for the aesthetic.
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Mar 25, 2017 02:58
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"Meganize me, Cap'n!" (rolls in on ship full of new ugly licensed merch)
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Mar 25, 2017 03:08
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ImpAtom posted:I think it's also worth noting with BBAMM that the joke began with Mega Man Universe, it wasn't a random out-of-nowhere thing. It was a really funny joke right up until like 3 games got cancelled at once and the franchise got put on ice. The biggest joke is that afaik BBAMM still can break the game by levitating upward off the screen.
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Mar 25, 2017 03:20
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Motto posted:MM fans have had a weird persecution complex for a while. Nobody here's gone this far, but in the comments for any given piece of rando MM merch you see people going on about how it's yet another slight against them personally. Some of them seem to take dislike for a new thing in the franchise as a personal slight. I certainly don't think it's an INSULT to me personally that this cartoon exists. It simply is extremely not my poo poo, and on top of that I think the art is lacking. I'm sure a kid somewhere or some overly defensive fan starved for something, anything Mega Man will enjoy it. I'll just keep playing the Mega Man games I like when the fancy strikes.
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Mar 25, 2017 12:28
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Takoluka posted:Like, the Ruby-Spears MM cartoon was actively terrible in its portrayal of literally every character from Mega Man at the time, but 90s nostalgia makes it good, I guess? It was a product of its time, and I think we all enjoyed it then, but it hasn't aged well. Brazilian Comic adaptation or bust
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Mar 25, 2017 23:08
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ImpAtom posted:I think it's also worth noting with BBAMM that the joke began with Mega Man Universe, it wasn't a random out-of-nowhere thing. ZX Advent also has the box art as a data chip, describing him as a "colorful coal miner".
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Mar 25, 2017 23:14
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In an age of two companies not giving a gently caress about their IP? Sorry, no, I'm doubling down on the Castlevania series on Netflix, because Adi Shankar and Warren Ellis are working on it.
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Mar 26, 2017 00:13
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Okay I need you guy to explain something to me. I first heard of Mega Man as a concept, like, around 2008. I was late to the internet - I watched Screw Attack.com videos - does anyone even REMEMBER that site? I frequented that, and magicthegathering.com and poo poo, and on ScrewAttack I heard the first time of Mega Man as a concept. Germans didn't really HAVE the NES, except for some really weird nerd dudes. I decided to check that out, emulators, and realized something - I liked it because it was so simple. To this day I respect Mega Man because it was for a long time THE platformer that didn't have momentum. No sliding after jumps, no charge time required - you jumped, that's what you got. I liked that. I grew up on Yoshi's Island, and I really liked the flutter jump in that - no momentum, just...hold the jump button. This is why I like Mega Man. What the gently caress are you arguing about the cartoon? I don't get it. This is the jump and shoot series. How can you have, like, an attachment to characters that are less than one dimensional?
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Mar 26, 2017 02:48
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Simply Simon posted:Okay I need you guy to explain something to me. How do you like things for a different reason than me???!!!
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Mar 26, 2017 04:40
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a) cause we played the games as kids and got attached to the characters in a purely iconographic sense b) because we're fond of the sometimes decently written spinoff material
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Mar 26, 2017 04:54
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Simply Simon posted:What the gently caress are you arguing about the cartoon? I don't get it. This is the jump and shoot series. How can you have, like, an attachment to characters that are less than one dimensional? Simple characters can be appealing even if they're simple. A recent example of this is Shovel Knight which is remarkably touching despite being very straightforward. I don't think Mega Man is quite up to that level on his own but add in the nostalgia of playing it as a kid and the genuinely fun gameplay and it's easy to see why people get attached. Hell, look at Mario or Link or Samus.
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Mar 26, 2017 04:58
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Okay I need you guy to explain something to me. I first experienced Mega Man in around 1993. My parents brought III DOS for me. They thought it was a main series game. So did I- I spent hours grappling with near-invisible laser turrets (I thought they were needle-shooters), water physics, pressing J to jump, and a set of master weapons that weren't worth using. I was accustomed to having a good run be ruined by the 15th enemy in a stage because I hadn't memorized how its movement synched to the rest of the stage. I became used to beating everything without letting myself get hit, with the buster. I tried other games that were more forgiving, and I learned about the main series, and I realized something- I liked it because it was so difficult. To this day I respect Mega Man because it's possible to give yourself restrictions that require agonizingly perfect memorization and dedication to the game, and it's built around those restrictions. For a long time, that paradigm controlled how I experienced other games. was for a long time THE platformer that let you feel like you'd mastered it. It and my copy of Sonic 2 for Game Gear were ruthless. I liked that. I grew up on King's Quest, and I really liked the design in that - missed an option twelve days ago? Better restart the game! This is why I like Mega Man. What the gently caress are you arguing about the cartoon? I don't get it. This is the agonizing pain game. How can you have, like, an attachment to characters that aren't shooting you from offscreen?
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Mar 26, 2017 05:16
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Simply Simon posted:I first heard of Mega Man as a concept, like, around 2008. I first heard of Mega Man back in 1988, so does that mean I have seniority and can tell you without repercussions that you are enjoying mega man wrong, or can we agree that you had a nice meltdown
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Mar 26, 2017 05:44
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fivegears4reverse posted:I first heard of Mega Man back in 1988, so does that mean I have seniority and can tell you without repercussions that you are enjoying mega man wrong, or can we agree that you had a nice meltdown 1990. And didn't play my first MegaMan game till 1994 with X1. I win? (I'm old)
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Mar 26, 2017 06:26
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Discendo Vox posted:Okay I need you guy to explain something to me. Mega Man isn't really that hard though, outside of bad/unfair bosses and levels (non-rainbow Devils)
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Mar 26, 2017 06:28
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Last Celebration posted:Mega Man isn't really that hard though, outside of bad/unfair bosses and levels (non-rainbow Devils) read again he's talking about the DOS game as his defining game. honestly, I don't mind the cartoon looks bad, it's bizarre enough that a dead franchise is getting a cartoon in the first place that there's no room for disappointment.
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LemonLimeTime posted:1990. And didn't play my first MegaMan game till 1994 with X1. I win? (I'm old)  I picked up Megaman 1 at Toys 'R Us when they had those paper slips you brought to the register and the security booth. It was 1987 or 1988 I guess. So whose uncle worked for Capcom Japan and had the Rockman 1 cart in 1986? Now's your time to shine and take this ePeen trophy home.
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