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Babe Magnet posted:NO Well if thats how you're going to be..!  *Takes Skaven away from game 2* No ratmen until you finish your chaos campaign, young man!
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Mar 26, 2017 01:46
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They're basically Minotaurs: the Faction, right? Occasionally with literal hand-cannons.
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Mar 26, 2017 01:50
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Gejnor posted:Well if thats how you're going to be..! no skaven no peace *begins drafting an essay about problematic subtext in halflings*
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Mar 26, 2017 01:51
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Krazyface posted:They're basically Minotaurs: the Faction, right? Occasionally with literal hand-cannons. they're like Orks if you started the Ork tree at Big Uns and developed from there e: and gave them cannons Babe Magnet fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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Mar 26, 2017 01:54
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I'm worried seeing how they will balance ogres since they're expensive on table top but this game will let you twenty stack some total bullshit in the campaign if you have the coin.
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Mar 26, 2017 02:04
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MilitantBlackGuy posted:good god I want the Ogres so bad. have you tried tindr
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Mar 26, 2017 02:06
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Krazyface posted:They're basically Minotaurs: the Faction, right? Occasionally with literal hand-cannons. Ogres aren't as big and scary as minotaurs. Bigger than orcs, smaller than minotaurs.
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Mar 26, 2017 02:18
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oh right so they'd count as Slightly Less Monstrous But Still Pretty Monstrous Infantry, then, ok
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Mar 26, 2017 02:23
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JBP posted:I'm worried seeing how they will balance ogres since they're expensive on table top but this game will let you twenty stack some total bullshit in the campaign if you have the coin. Yeah or a stack of iron breakers or blood knights or demi gryphs or
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Mar 26, 2017 02:24
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Gnoblar Horde army when
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Mar 26, 2017 02:24
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I wonder if this game would be more fun if they had the regular-elite-special restrictions form tabletop
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Mar 26, 2017 02:27
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Ogres have a sparse roster like Bretonnia. CA will just make some new units for them. More gnoblar stuff, maybe some juvenile ogres who're smaller/weaker.
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Mar 26, 2017 02:28
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would ogres be a horde faction? I read the 1d4 page on them and it sounds like they don't really do settlements and kind of wander around fighting and eating stuff.
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Mar 26, 2017 02:30
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ZearothK posted:We need five more in order to cover all of the faction types, get to it goons. Dibs on Brets, with a gimmick: I'm gonna be pretty drunk while I play/narrate. Also, Mukip's LP is pretty boss. Haven't checked the other one yet.
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Mar 26, 2017 02:34
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Knobb Manwich posted:Yeah or a stack of iron breakers or blood knights or demi gryphs or Yeah I know, but ogres are loving huge and fast right out of the gate as well.
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Mar 26, 2017 02:36
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Jamwad Hilder posted:would ogres be a horde faction? I read the 1d4 page on them and it sounds like they don't really do settlements and kind of wander around fighting and eating stuff. Yep. They're organized into tribes and are described as nomadic. They're not too subtly the Mongol hordes of Warhams.
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Mar 26, 2017 02:41
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Dibs on Brets, with a gimmick: I'm gonna be pretty drunk while I play/narrate. As long as its red wine, calvados or something else suitably French.
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Mar 26, 2017 02:57
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Speaking of ogres with cannons So before the ogres moved in, their mountain homeland was inhabited by the Sky Titans, dudes bigger than giants who lived in fancy castles inside the tops of mountains. Things were going pretty sweet for them until the ogres came westward and ate most of them. The ones who survived ended up inbreeding and devolving into the retarded children we see in the game as giants. That cannon the ogre is operating is a Sky Titan's artillery piece. The catapult is a bunch of scrap barely holding together constructed by the ogre slave race, gnoblars. Gnoblars are smaller and more cowardly than goblins, and where ogres go, gnoblars aren't too far behind. The sooner ogres are added to the game, the better.
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Mar 26, 2017 02:59
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e. ^^^^  The cannon is a Sky Titan's hand-cannon.Krazyface posted:They're basically Minotaurs: the Faction, right? Occasionally with literal hand-cannons. Ogres aren't literal walking animals so they can fight in cohesive ranks. The Maneater mercenaries in particular are trained in Human style organised tactics. NoNotTheMindProbe fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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Mar 26, 2017 03:32
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If Ogres were to be added I feel they could really benefit from some unconventional campaign mechanics. I'm thinking they should be a nomadic horde style faction but more story driven. Give them a huge, more detailed quest line with opportunities to do side quests issued by the other factions for coin. You could temporarily hire out some of your units to another faction and they'd be unavailable to you for a set amount of turns in exchange for gold. At the end of the deal you either get back some sweet XP boosted ogres or, sorry, they got wiped out lol. Or imagine Estalia hires you to fight the Border Princes, and as you're seiging one of their cities the Princes offer you double to turn on your Estalian paymasters.
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Mar 26, 2017 03:48
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Question about the estalia area, was playing orcs and rolling over the southwest princes for some cash action and it seems you cant walk west from tilea to estalia? I guess because the area looked kinda swampgassy it's supposed to be impassible? Seemed wierd. I just turned back instead of sailing around cuz gently caress it i got better things to do
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Mar 26, 2017 04:06
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Indecisive posted:Question about the estalia area, was playing orcs and rolling over the southwest princes for some cash action and it seems you cant walk west from tilea to estalia? I guess because the area looked kinda swampgassy it's supposed to be impassible? Seemed wierd. I just turned back instead of sailing around cuz gently caress it i got better things to do I believe that would be the Blighted Marsh, and yeah that's deliberately impassable.
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Mar 26, 2017 04:17
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Lassitude posted:Yep. They're organized into tribes and are described as nomadic. They're not too subtly the Mongol hordes of Warhams. I thought that there were permanent Ogre settlements in the Mountains of Mourn? The two that come to mind are Greasus Goldtooth's "Empire" and that sacred volcano Ogres worship alongside the Great Maw.
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Mar 26, 2017 04:17
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:I believe that would be the Blighted Marsh, and yeah that's deliberately impassable. Yeah that's the nastiest marsh in the Old World. At its heart (and under it I believe) lies the largest Skaven settlement known, Skavenblight. Its pretty much Skaven Rome (in the catholic sense) housing the Council of Thirteen and it is the nexus of Skaven activity.
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Mar 26, 2017 04:27
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LordAbaddon posted:I thought that there were permanent Ogre settlements in the Mountains of Mourn? The two that come to mind are Greasus Goldtooth's "Empire" and that sacred volcano Ogres worship alongside the Great Maw. They're not permanent settlements. There a gnoblar shanty towns, but the ogre tribes are always on the move with the migration of animals or raiding westward. Ogres aren't building towns or farming crops or anything. That said, yeah, Greasus Goldtooth is likely to be the vanilla "Ogre Kingdoms" faction whenever they're released.
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Mar 26, 2017 05:23
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Randarkman posted:As long as its red wine, calvados or something else suitably French. Kir? Got me a hankerin' for Kir. creme de cassis+vin blanc, 1:1 pour les hommes, 1:2 pour les enfants
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Mar 26, 2017 05:33
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Everyone needs to use my excessively large mod list for their LPs. Out of curiosity, anyone find some clunkers in the workshop? The lack of a model editor, for better or worse, spares us from armies of Vampire My Little Pony expies at least.
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Mar 26, 2017 06:06
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Lassitude posted:They're not too subtly the Mongol hordes of Warhams. There's actually an entirely unsubtle Mongol horde stand-in, made up of Goblins. They have khans and stuff. I think ogres are supposed to be from those weird in-between countries, like Uzbekistan or whatever, where dudes are kinda white but rock them fu-manchu 'staches.
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Mar 26, 2017 06:39
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jfood posted:There's actually an entirely unsubtle Mongol horde stand-in, made up of Goblins. They have khans and stuff. There's also a further exceedingly unsubtle and incredibly racist Mongol stand in with the Hung chaos raiders, known for being filthy, short, lying a lot, having narrow eyes, and stealing constantly. Yeah. That's what, 3 mongol stand ins?
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Mar 26, 2017 06:53
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The ogres have a Cossack vibe to them in some of the models and art, if I remember right
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Mar 26, 2017 06:54
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jfood posted:There's actually an entirely unsubtle Mongol horde stand-in, made up of Goblins. They have khans and stuff. Ah, Central Asia. Tons of people, whose relevance to history has traditionally been "which closest coast is currently strong, greedy, or stupid enough to figure it's worth the effort to say they're in charge out here." One of the great history-shaping battles happened out here. Almost uniquely in the history of warfare, it was pretty much a one-and-done between two great empires: after the Chinese got beaten (and beaten bad enough their official estimate of the enemy army was "they outnumbered us nine to one! that we saved any men was an unimaginable triumph!") their official stance on Central Asia was "you know what, gently caress it, these new guys, what the gently caress did they call themselves, the Abbasids? All yours, assholes."
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Mar 26, 2017 07:09
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jfood posted:There's actually an entirely unsubtle Mongol horde stand-in, made up of Goblins. They have khans and stuff. Whoa whoa whoa Hobgoblins thank you very much
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Mar 26, 2017 07:48
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Just beat the wood elf old world campaign and it's really great because I didn't have to do much other than tend to the forest and its areas and help out my human/dwarf allies in their dumb fights against chaos and undead, but poo poo that final battle was rough. If I didn't bring a life wizard, I would've died to the sheer attrition of fighting that many goddamn beastmen. I ran out of ammo 1/3 of the way through, so I had glade guards rear charging minotaurs. It was rough, and fantastic. 10/10 would elf again.
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Mar 26, 2017 08:06
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Is a hobgoblin like a goblin manlet
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Mar 26, 2017 08:06
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Ammanas posted:Is a hobgoblin like a goblin manlet Opposite, they are the goblins that lift
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Mar 26, 2017 08:10
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hobgoblins are trash and everything about them is already done better by at least three other factions 1. they're short (dwarves, halflings, pygmies, goblins/snotlings) 2. they backstab and lie all the time (dark elves, skaven, goblins, not-mongols, border princes, vampires) 3. they hate everyone and everyone hates them (skaven, beastmen, daemons, norse, goblins, wood elves) 4. they do stupid poo poo for dumb reasons because theyre Evil (dark elves, chaos, skaven) 5. theyre green (greenskins, really rotten nurgle things, treemen) 6. their hats are dumb (high elves, chaos) 7. critical lack of babes (dwarves, skaven, lizardman, beastmen, ogres, greenskins) 8. probably racist allegory (all not not-european humans, amazons, pygmies, halflings) 9. if you try to be nice for once hang out with one despite all the poo poo you heard and are like "hey dude you seem pretty cool wanna come over and watch the big game " they'll pick a lovely movie to rent and insist you watch, drink all your booze, complain about it, and then leave after puking on your good upholstery and then tell everyone you were lame about everything and talked all stupid and then you're just left scrubbing half digested chinese food off your rug and wondering why you even loving bothered (high elves, skaven, witch hunters, manfred) 10. theyre gently caress ugly fodder peoples (skaven slaves, bretonnian peasants, goblins/snotlings, beastmen gors) they're garbage, nobody likes them. if you like them, you're full of poo poo, there is nothing interesting, unique, or cool about hobgoblins.
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Mar 26, 2017 08:33
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LordAbaddon posted:I thought that there were permanent Ogre settlements in the Mountains of Mourn? The two that come to mind are Greasus Goldtooth's "Empire" and that sacred volcano Ogres worship alongside the Great Maw. My bet is we see a Wood Elf style mechanic for Ogres, with the Great Maw and a couple of similar 'main' settlements as a base.
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Mar 26, 2017 08:38
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Tiler Kiwi posted:9. if you try to be nice for once hang out with one despite all the poo poo you heard and are like "hey dude you seem pretty cool wanna come over and watch the big game " they'll pick a lovely movie to rent and insist you watch, drink all your booze, complain about it, and then leave after puking on your good upholstery and then tell everyone you were lame about everything and talked all stupid and then you're just left scrubbing half digested chinese food off your rug and wondering why you even loving bothered (high elves, skaven, witch hunters, manfred) But enough about your problems with women
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Look at this loving elf lover.Tiler Kiwi posted:
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