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Powershift posted:Yeah, he should have just ignored those engine failures and kept driving. He had 2 DNFs all year. Rosberg had one.
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English fans just don't want to admit that the most objectively fraudulent WDC was clearly Hunt in '76.
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Mar 30, 2017 03:26
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Long live the Austrian burnt chicken tender.
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Mar 30, 2017 03:27
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In truth there are basically no WDCs I'd actually classify as undeserved. 1976 is the only remotely close one. Other than that it's hypotheticals like if Hill had beaten Schumacher in 1994 which would have been moronic.
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Mar 30, 2017 03:29
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Alain Post posted:Lewis lost because he was not very good in the first half of the season. He had some poo poo drives in the second part of the season too. I witnessed it firsthand in Japan.
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Mar 30, 2017 03:33
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Alain Post posted:In truth there are basically no WDCs I'd actually classify as undeserved. 1976 is the only remotely close one. Other than that it's hypotheticals like if Hill had beaten Schumacher in 1994 which would have been moronic. You could maybe make a case for 1999.
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2012, too, in the sense that Alonso was clearly a better driver in a worse car, but yeah.
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Mar 30, 2017 03:36
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I'll usually say hypotheticals like a driver deserved it more in a certain year, but you really can't take away a WDC from somebody, they obviously did something that year to deserve it.
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Mar 30, 2017 03:42
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I want to see Ricciardo on every podium. I wouldn't be unhappy at all if Max was there with him too.
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Mar 30, 2017 03:45
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I want Lewis to release his album so I can laugh at him.
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Mar 30, 2017 03:47
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I want Pastor back
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:I want Pastor back Have you heard of this guy called Lance Stroll?
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Mar 30, 2017 03:58
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Pastor actually had some talent. The pay drivers this year are just dreadful.
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Mar 30, 2017 03:59
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I'd gladly trade Lance Stroll for Pastor Maldonado
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Mar 30, 2017 04:06
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Can Manor come back, please?
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iospace posted:Can Manor come back, please? No. 
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What if they brought Pastor back?
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120 new replies last night... 1. F1 teams get paid in $ by FOM so if the value of the pound or euro drops they will be better off. 2. I went to my first F1 race in 1979 and my opinions are still terrible. 3. My hearing was hosed by age 10.
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Pastor actually had some talent. The pay drivers this year are just dreadful. Pastor could actually get into the front of the pack and wreck some of the WDC contenders. Anyways, I don't think Stroll could drag anyone out of a garage fire. Maybe that's what Williams is banking on.
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Mar 30, 2017 06:37
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Stroll is not that bad. He had a reasonable amount of success in the junior categories.
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Give the kid a chance, it's only been 1 race.
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Mar 30, 2017 06:52
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Look at his record in lower formula...
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Jeez what does that say about everyone else in the lower formulas.
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https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2017/3/Director%27s_Cut__Australia_2017.html I really like the summary edits FOM do for each race. They often don't get to YouTube so you've gotta click the dumb link. Maybe start a list of these in the op for reference?
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keevo posted:Jeez what does that say about everyone else in the lower formulas. Says they weren't with Prema. I was more talking about his race ban from the F3 finale cuz he's a crash prone idiot.
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SPACE HOMOS posted:The best part of the F1 season this year is that Bill Burr is watching it and always has something to say about it. also oh poo poo I listen to this weekly and when he brought up F1 and started talking excitedly, it was the best
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Tony Montana posted:https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2017/3/Director%27s_Cut__Australia_2017.html I love it when you can't find 3 minutes worth of interesting stuff in a race and have to insert painting to fill the time Cool video though
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Norns posted:What if Nico Rosberg was just a better driver in 2016? He really was. He trained hard, worked the sims and practiced his starts. Their Lewis did none of these things. When you even have Bernie telling you to cut partying the gently caress out you will ultimatly have noone but yourself to blame. And his tears have been deliciously salty ever since. Rosberg did the right thing retiring when he did. It was the ultimate troll for Lewis.
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pik_d posted:I love the mental gymnastics used to blame Lewis for literally everything. No he didn't get unlucky with reliability, its actually his own fault that everything bad happened! It was just a floated theory, and I'll eat it - It is an incorrect theory; while Rosberg did double the number of laps Hamilton did in 2015, in 2016 they both did well over 600 pre-season testing laps each and there's no real reason to presuppose Hamilton did significantly fewer FP laps as well. I think Lewis is a fantastic driver and has shown glimpses of being unquestionably the best driver on the grid. He can be inconsistent and he can be a bit "head in the clouds", he can still wring fast times from his car (which is noticeably faster than anything else on the grid). I also think he's a dickhead who overestimates his fan appeal, celebrity and who whines constantly while getting the fellatio of the century from the British broadcasters. Wait, was Di Resta this century? poo poo. ImplicitAssembler posted:Stroll is not that bad. He had a reasonable amount of success in the junior categories. Didn't he get dropped from the Ferrari junior program? Despite having success in the jr. categories?
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Mar 30, 2017 08:56
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Alain Post posted:Other than that it's hypotheticals like if Hill had beaten Schumacher in 1994 which would have been moronic. Hill would've beaten Schumacher if he had been driven into by him. The guy was a phenomenal talent and his 7 WDCs are testament to that but you don't get 7 WDCs without a level of ruthlessness that leaves you scant regard for the rules at times.
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If we learned anything from this race is that he cars are too difficult for the poo poo drivers to drive. One of the reasons for this is that you have to baby them because the bloody shark fin will box your tyres and brakes. Palmer, k-mag, Ericsson and Stroll's shitness was very apparent. Time will tell if it was Mercedes loving up the tyre set up, or Lewis grinding his into dust and bottas being poor in general. Same with Kimi. One rather telling thing is that if it's a Mercades mistake Lewis whines, if it's a Lewis mistake he and Mercades tend to keep quiet about it which is what happened after Australia. It is possible that Lewis' lack of simulator time has bitten him on the arse again but we will have to wait until the next race to find out.
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learnincurve posted:Palmer, k-mag, Ericsson and Stroll's shitness was very apparent. When has it not?
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Stroll is not that bad. He had a reasonable amount of success in the junior categories. Where he almost had a different car in a spec series and the money to pay for testing and engineering other drivers didn't have access to. Even so he had a reputation for causing incidents. That's not to say he won't do ok but don't think for a moment F3 was a level playing field. He had a Prema car and at times it looked like teammates who were essentially paid to drive for his benefit.
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Alain Post posted:English fans just don't want to admit that the most objectively fraudulent WDC was clearly Hunt in '76. Warwick Hunt.
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Alain Post posted:He had 2 DNFs all year. Rosberg had one. DNF's aren't exactly the whole story of that season. Rosberg's DNF was when him and Hamilton took each other off in Spain, so no advantage to either party there. HAMs other DNF that year was in Malaysia resulting in a 28-point swing to Rosberg who was stuck in the midfield at the time I think. The majority of Hamilton's "bad luck" due to mechanical issues came from him having to start lower down the grid because of part changes/issues in qualifying and not failing to finish races. I don't like Rosberg at all but I don't think it was an undeserved WDC for him. Looking at the classifications at the end of each race and going "welp, stats don't lie!" is pretty disingenuous though.
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1500quidporsche posted:I'll usually say hypotheticals like a driver deserved it more in a certain year, but you really can't take away a WDC from somebody, they obviously did something that year to deserve it. Unless they won the WDC due to double points finale round, then they'd be a fraud WDC.
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:[Rosberg] He really was. He trained hard, worked the sims and practiced his starts. Their Lewis did none of these things. lewis didn't need to do these things, because rosberg is a poo poo driver and was his only competition what he need to do was have his car break down less
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Actually Hamilton is a brilliant strategist who gave Rosberg the win knowing he would retire and be replaced by a non-German (the only way to stop the team sabotaging him) https://twitter.com/LewisHamilton/status/717312342002900996
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Lewis can't control his car breaking, but he can control his own mistakes, and he made countless mistakes over the course of the season that could have given him the five points needed to beat Rosberg in the end. That's why he quite obviously deserved to lose. Oh, and he scored fewer points than Rosberg, which is literally the only metric that matters.
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