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Mr. Fortitude posted:That Mafia 3 video kinda reminds me of the Manhunt games on PS2. The plastic bag executions still skeeve me out. There was something very dirty and...well, rusty? about the violence in Manhunt. It's a fairly standard stealth thing, but the atmosphere and violence really nailed it as an experience I think.
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Samurai Sanders posted:When I think of the violence in GoW I think of something a thirteen year old would come up with. Not that that's unusual in the history and present of video games but still, let's not pretend that it's an adult thing. Man-Children don't mature they simply age.
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Apr 2, 2017 11:12
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poptart_fairy posted:The plastic bag executions still skeeve me out. There was something very dirty and...well, rusty? about the violence in Manhunt. It's a fairly standard stealth thing, but the atmosphere and violence really nailed it as an experience I think. I just like the almost postmodern meta commentary of the game. The main villain is a fat rear end in a top hat who directs the player to commit acts of violence through a computer screen for his own amusement. Am I talking about Director Starkweather or am I talking about the player?
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Apr 2, 2017 11:26
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Hey be fair now, I don't masturbate to this stuff nearly as often as he did. 
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revolther posted:To be fair, 19-33 year old males, were the 13 year olds of the early 2000's. That's explicitly why Kratos has a beard and a kid now. I always thought that sort of thing was silly when I was younger, but man, I played The Last of Us for the first time recently and I was consciously aware of Joel being an older dude. I was like, "hey, this game stars an older guy who's greying and hits people with bricks and strangles them, just like me."
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Apr 2, 2017 14:11
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I don't actually hit people with bricks or strangle them, so I don't identify with Joel a whole lot.
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Apr 2, 2017 14:52
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So was Soldier of Fortune too extreme when you could shoot off a guy's kneecap and watch him writhe before plopping him in the face? I haven't played GoWIII but will contest that I found it very cool from the bits of action I caught were rather interesting; using the thumbsticks to imitate putting your thumbs into someone's eyes.
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Video Nasty posted:So was Soldier of Fortune too extreme when you could shoot off a guy's kneecap and watch him writhe before plopping him in the face? Other people might not have drawn the line there, but it definitely made me feel uncomfortable to play at the time, yeah. Had no trouble blowing off the limbs of dinosaurs in Turok 2 or gibbing people in Q3 around the same period, though. For me it's all about the tone and presentation rather than the actual level of violence. When the weapons and setting are fanciful, or obviously played for laughs, then it's a lot easier to accept over the top violence because we all know plasma rifles haven't been invented yet and we won't be fighting mutant dinosaurs until the Trump Cyborg Wars of 2053. When you're shooting at modern realistic people with modern realistic weapons, it's just a little too provocative of actual human war and conflict, which I don't think is something to be trivialized in a video game.
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exquisite tea posted:Other people might not have drawn the line there, but it definitely made me feel uncomfortable to play at the time, yeah. Had no trouble blowing off the limbs of dinosaurs in Turok 2 or gibbing people in Q3 around the same period, though. For me it's all about the tone and presentation rather than the actual level of violence. When the weapons and setting are fanciful, or obviously played for laughs, then it's a lot easier to accept over the top violence because we all know plasma rifles haven't been invented yet and we won't be fighting mutant dinosaurs until the Trump Cyborg Wars of 2053. When you're shooting at modern realistic people with modern realistic weapons, it's just a little too provocative of actual human war and conflict, which I don't think is something to be trivialized in a video game. Thank you for the perspective correction. I was a little older at the time of SoF, so it came off as ultraviolence to me; similar to Quake and even Doom at their respective releases. A stark contrast to Commander Keen and the side-scrolling Duke Nukem games before the series went 3D and also strived for that pinnacle of ultraviolence.
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Apr 2, 2017 16:09
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veni veni veni posted:gently caress that horrible game it's like Monster energy drink mixed with ISIS. you sound like a cool dude with no brain problems at all.
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I don't normally mind ridiculous violence but God of War 3 has a part where you chase down a semi-naked woman and then force her to stand under a switch which ultimately crushes her to death while she goes 'please no help' just so you can get under a door. That's too much for me. Didn't help that the original PS3 version had an incredibly tasteless trophy for doing so, which was curiously missing from the PS4 remaster...
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Apr 2, 2017 16:28
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Even in the first God of War there was a guy in a cage who begged for his release as you slowly pushed him into a fire, again to open a door. It's gross stuff.
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God of War 3 is an actual masterclass in front loading your game with the interesting parts because as soon as you kill the water leviathan thing, that game is entirely poo poo. It's always been a paddling pool deep gorn series and the new one looks bad for entirely different reasons as to why the old ones are bad.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:you sound like a cool dude with no brain problems at all. Thanks 
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Meldonox posted:I always thought that sort of thing was silly when I was younger, but man, I played The Last of Us for the first time recently and I was consciously aware of Joel being an older dude. I was like, "hey, this game stars an older guy who's greying and hits people with bricks and strangles them, just like me."  You live in California, don't you?
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My biggest problem with GoW3 is that they expect me to somehow give a poo poo about him and his plight, because he sorta wants to protect a young girl, even with all the heinous poo poo he pulls. PSP prequel Kratos I can understand, he's actually sort of heroic and tragic in those. After those he quickly becomes an irredeemable shithead.
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Apr 2, 2017 17:54
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Yeah despite everything the worst thing about 3 is the story thinking that not killing Pandora the second he meets her redeems him somehow.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:you sound like a cool dude with no brain problems at all.
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As much as I can't stand God of War the new one does actually look like it has potential. Although, I think it would need to have a gameplay overhaul and turn the edginess down a few notches from 11 to grab my interest at all.
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Kratos coming to understand compassion and the responsibilities of fatherhood would be utterly unexpected but hey, if literal magic dick self-insert Geralt of Rivia could learn the same lessons in The Witcher 3, all things are possible.
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revolther posted:To be fair, 19-33 year old males, were the 13 year olds of the early 2000's. That's explicitly why Kratos has a beard and a kid now. Narrative game designers write what they know!
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Narrative game designers write what they know! My favorite instance of this was during WoW: Cataclysm where Thrall decided what he really needed with the world on the brink of calamity was a son, weirdly enough around the same time that Chris Metzen had a kid.
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It's funny how many game protagonists have beards slapped on now. Like, pretty much all of them. I heard Lara Croft will have a nice full beard in the next tomb raider compliments of tressFX™
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 Obviously it's been a long time coming, we just needed beard technology to catch up.
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Beards are good
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veni veni veni posted:As much as I can't stand God of War the new one does actually look like it has potential. Although, I think it would need to have a gameplay overhaul and turn the edginess down a few notches from 11 to grab my interest at all. It seems fairly likely that things will be toned down a bit. The trailer they showed had some gnarly gore but there was also an interview with the dev where he said that GoW 3 went way too far into idiot edgelord territory, to paraphrase. Hopefully this will translate into visceral and grotesque combat gore and none of the hurr durr let's torture this random innocent dude to open a door.
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Video Nasty posted:A stark contrast to Commander Keen and the side-scrolling Duke Nukem games before the series went 3D and also strived for that pinnacle of ultraviolence. You know, we're overdue for a grim, "realistic" remake of Commander Keen. The IP Recyclers are slipping. Manhunt is still the gold standard for uncomfortable violence.
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I'd love something that keeps up the ridiculous spectacle of the earlier games but down the lovely bits so let's hope so.
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Man, I've always wanted to give that APB a go seeing how crazy the customization is but holy poo poo the performance on PS4 is atrocious. Juddery as gently caress, frame rate troubles, lag in menus, and the game just crashed when I stole a car.
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Apr 2, 2017 19:24
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Nah that's just what APB is like
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I tried really hard to get into god of war back in 2005 when I was like 15 and could never do it just don't get the appeal I guess. the new one seems interesting tho, at least conceptually
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Samurai Sanders posted:When I think of the violence in GoW I think of something a thirteen year old would come up with. Not that that's unusual in the history and present of video games but still, let's not pretend that it's an adult thing. Well David Jaffe created GoW and he also created Drawn to Death which is literally based on a 13 year old's notebook drawings so it makes sense
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Failboattootoot posted:It seems fairly likely that things will be toned down a bit. The trailer they showed had some gnarly gore but there was also an interview with the dev where he said that GoW 3 went way too far into idiot edgelord territory, to paraphrase. Hopefully this will translate into visceral and grotesque combat gore and none of the hurr durr let's torture this random innocent dude to open a door. Agreed. What they have shown so far looks cooler and way less tacky.
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Reminder that there is a wipeout playlist on spotifyIneffiable posted:Can we get a screen cap or a link? I might do this for a persona 5 preorder. sry late response  This is the link when I click it, idk if it's specific to me. Doesn't do anything special http://click.playstationemail.com/?...8fdbf3b8027683b
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:Reminder that there is a wipeout playlist on spotify They did a real similar thing to this offer in the EU during March (Spend £/€50 and get 10 back) by means and I asked PlayStation EU's customer service if it will apply to a Persona 5 pre-order and they definitively told me no. But I got an email the other day saying I qualified so BOO those guys!!!!
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Violence doesn't squick me out, but count me in with those who thought GoW3 was gross. There's a part in Metal Gear solid 3 where they subvert the player's expectations of game cutscenes and make the player 'pull the trigger' to feel the weight and consequence of that choice, and it's a pretty emotional moment as far as games go. God of War 3's version of that, pressing the sticks down to gouge out eyes, feels less like a lesson in connecting the player to the consequence of their violence and more like a LOOK AT THIS poo poo WE MADE YOU DO stunt. I'm surprised I didn't put the game down right there. revolther posted:To be fair, 19-33 year old males, were the 13 year olds of the early 2000's. That's explicitly why Kratos has a beard and a kid now. Oh god! Oh god, I am a manbaby!
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GoW3 was just a cruelty simulator but without the gotcha at the end like GoW1 that points at Kratos and says "this man is a monster and should not be emulated." Which is important. Anyway, TF2 is a shootsman and it's good at it but the single player is so memorable and good because of stuff besides shooting mans. I can understand people being put off by the mp beta I guess but not eventually getting around to getting it on sale and playing the single player is doing yourself a disservice.
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TF2 single player probably gets talked up a little more than it warrants but it's because it's really drat fun. Like, in the end it's a 5 hour long linear shooter campaign but it's memorable because it's paced so well and uses all of the mechanics really well and it's polished as all hell.
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Policenaut posted:Man, I've always wanted to give that APB a go seeing how crazy the customization is but holy poo poo the performance on PS4 is atrocious. Juddery as gently caress, frame rate troubles, lag in menus, and the game just crashed when I stole a car. You should see it on the bone.
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