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Solvent posted:A lovely snipe at people who voted for Jill Stein... If I could go back to November I'd change my vote to Bernie since nothing matters in NY when it comes to presidential elections. But still, lol at voting for Stein.
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Matt Zerella posted:If I could go back to November I'd change my vote to Bernie since nothing matters in NY when it comes to presidential elections. That's what I did in California. The state certified him as a valid write-in, and  Jill Stein.
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Apr 7, 2017 05:18
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I voted for Hillary in California because I was worried about Hillary winning the electoral college but Trump getting the popular vote.
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Propaganda Machine posted:That's what I did in California. The state certified him as a valid write-in, and Well yeah, she's a hippie who sings poorly and questions the efficacy of vaccines, but Clinton was just as complicit in the DNC shenanigans as Trump is regarding Russian involvement. Bernie was out, and valid write in or not, it seemed better to try and get the Green Party more funding.
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Solvent posted:Well yeah, she's a hippie who sings poorly and questions the efficacy of vaccines, but Clinton was just as complicit in the DNC shenanigans as Trump is regarding Russian involvement. I'd be down for giving the Green Party funding if they did more than only give a poo poo about presidential elections. Luckily Hillary and Schumer got my vote under the Working Families ticket here so they can get more funding since they're cool and good.
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Matt Zerella posted:I'd be down for giving the Green Party funding if they did more than only give a poo poo about presidential elections. I vote for downticket greens just because I hate our lovely 2 party system but hell if I was voting for Stein. I voted Hillary in the end even though it's not like my vote matters in Maryland, she was a safer win here than even California. Perhaps I should have voted for Bernie or forever shamed myself and wrote in Harambe but I was genuinely scared of, well, this.
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Apr 7, 2017 15:19
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All states should have fusion voting. It was an extremely small way for me to say gently caress you to the democrats and help a smaller party but not throw my vote away.
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Apr 7, 2017 15:30
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lol if your state legally recognizes third parties other than libertarians
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Apr 7, 2017 18:37
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The Muppets On PCP posted:lol if your state legally recognizes third parties other than libertarians Working Families Party is extremely good unlike libertarians who are extremely bad.
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Apr 7, 2017 18:38
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The Muppets On PCP posted:lol if your state legally recognizes third parties other than libertarians It doesn't matter here, because every non-establishment Democrat is actually a Libertarian. The crazy man on the bus who wanted me to vote for him instead of our incumbent Senator in the primary wasn't just a nutcase, but a bootstrapping nutcase.
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Apr 7, 2017 18:59
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Matt Zerella posted:I'd be down for giving the Green Party funding if they did more than only give a poo poo about presidential elections. Or even just field a viable candidate. I don't actually think Stein would have been worse than Trump, but it's a valid debate.
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Apr 7, 2017 22:45
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Propaganda Machine posted:Or even just field a viable candidate. I don't actually think Stein would have been worse than Trump, but it's a valid debate. I'm inclined to agree. She didn't stand for anything. She just pandered to whoever asked her a question. And her vaccine stance is heinous to me doubly so since she's apparently a doctor.
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Apr 7, 2017 22:50
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I used to think Jill Stein was unqualified due to her extremely limited government experience but Trump has lowered the bar so much I'd probably be fine with it if she won somehow. Not Gary Johnson though.
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Apr 7, 2017 23:00
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It's like you guys have taken the Reddit memes about candidates and turned them into your own views instead of actually reading their stances yourself. Good job.
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Super Deuce posted:It's like you guys have taken the Reddit memes about candidates and turned them into your own views instead of actually reading their stances yourself. Good job. Stein and Johnson were loving terrible is a meme?
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Apr 7, 2017 23:40
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Having the right stances is easy, it's having relevant experience that shows you both understand the ins-and-outs of the job and can handle the pressure that is difficult. Neither of them would be much better than Trump in that regard. I know the "what is Aleppo?" thing became a meme but it seems pretty likely that his ignorance of very important and basic things, things a president should know, went way beyond that. The third parties do not attract viable candidates because they aren't viable parties.
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Bass Bottles posted:I used to think Jill Stein was unqualified due to her extremely limited government experience but Trump has lowered the bar so much I'd probably be fine with it if she won somehow. there was a brief bit on chapo a while back about how trump's basically permanently tarnished the notion of respecting the office we're never gonna get the smell of hardee's out of the oval office furniture
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Matt Zerella posted:I'm inclined to agree. She didn't stand for anything. She just pandered to whoever asked her a question. And her vaccine stance is heinous to me doubly so since she's apparently a doctor. Don't forget WiFi poisoning our minds. And the Green party being against the greenest thing there is is unconscionable to me, nuclear power is the only way we meet our energy demands cleanly.
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Apr 8, 2017 03:16
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Matt Zerella posted:Stein and Johnson were loving terrible is a meme? Like this. IRQ posted:Don't forget WiFi poisoning our minds. That's not what she said about WiFi, and nuclear energy science isn't questioned. It's the companies being questioned, and that the risk if they cut corners is far too great.
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I've been very disappointed this season, but I give credit where its due. This week's was better than its been in a while. Only one joke bombed that he blamed on sensitive liberals, and one Cawwsbee joke (its the new OJ). The guests were fine, I liked the Columbia professor at the beginning and the Bill's representative Ted Lieu. I agreed with her, but Ana Navarro's "sassy Latina" schtick is getting tiresome. Even Chelsea Handler was alright. No show next week since he's taking Good Friday off, for religulous reasons I suppose...
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WaryWarren posted:Oh God, another episode. Who were the guests? evan mcmuffin, ana navarro, ted liu, and chelsea handler jelani cobb was the interview guest not much happened except navarro decided she's cool with trump because he fired missiles at syria
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Apr 8, 2017 06:09
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Jesus, Bill had Evan McMullin AND that fat chick on tonight? After having on Roger Stone and loving Rick Santorum last week?
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Alienwarehouse posted:Jesus, Bill had Evan McMullin AND that fat chick on tonight? After having on Roger Stone and loving Rick Santorum last week? Came here to find out if it was worth watching tonight's episode. Sounds like no. This pandering idiot is desperate. He claims it's for open dialogue, but not everyone deserves a loving platform. Not every issue needs both sides when one is clearly sociopathic and wrong.
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Shadow posted:Came here to find out if it was worth watching tonight's episode. Sounds like no. The worse thing about Trump is how he unwittingly made other equally reprehensible pieces of republican poo poo like Evan McMullin and Rick Santorum seem reasonable in the eyes of the media by comparison. Does Maher know that these shitheads literally want to abolish social programs as well? Does he know that these two still want to outlaw abortion and gay marriage? Or expand the "rights of corporations?" gently caress man.
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Alienwarehouse posted:The worse thing about Trump is how he unwittingly made other equally reprehensible pieces of republican poo poo like Evan McMullin and Rick Santorum seem reasonable in the eyes of the media by comparison. Does Maher know that these shitheads literally want to abolish social programs as well? Does he know that these two still want to outlaw abortion and gay marriage? Or expand the "rights of corporations?" This poo poo can wait until after both sides together destroy the white nationalists who want to enact state sanctioned culture war.
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Craptacular! posted:This poo poo can wait until after both sides together destroy the white nationalists who want to enact state sanctioned culture war. Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are no moderate republicans. They all want to abolish the welfare state along with providing endless, perpetual war. None of them deserve to be given platforms. Alienwarehouse fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Apr 8, 2017 |
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There's a line between crony capitalists backed by libertarians and populist fascism backed by white nationalism. Get rid of the latter first, then deal with the former. Getting rid of the latter SHOULD be easy. Donald Trump is the only person at the moment who is wealthy enough and famous enough that he can be elected President while holding such fringe views. That won't be the case if opposition bandwidth is spent arguing the usual issues. Instead of fighting a legislative change that can simply be rolled back in a few years, let's stay focused that our President has maniacal tendencies like recalling delusional events and suggesting religious tests for refugees.
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Craptacular! posted:There's a line between crony capitalists backed by libertarians and populist fascism backed by white nationalism. Get rid of the latter first, then deal with the former. It's quite amusing how you imply that Trump is the first republican who wants to start a "state sanctioned" culture war.
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The Muppets On PCP posted:there was a brief bit on chapo a while back about how trump's basically permanently tarnished the notion of respecting the office my coworker said to me "i have to respect him due to the office" and i said to her respect is earned not given and nobody's gonna respect the loving office anymore. Craptacular! posted:There's a line between crony capitalists backed by libertarians and populist fascism backed by white nationalism. Get rid of the latter first, then deal with the former. they're one and the same. the republican party became crazy crony capitalist virtually the same time it became a white nationalist party. trump is the logical outcome of the southern strategy, he's not some aberration. the republican party has spent the past sixty years creating the environment for someone like him to be elected. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Apr 8, 2017 |
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Yeah, McM and Navarro were insufferable and smug---so much revisionist history and purposefully setting a low bar on the whole tonight and OT only deepened the lot. Oh, and just in case you hoped the streak would abate with the break--- SE Cupp will be on upon the return.
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ExiledTinkerer posted:\ what the gently caress is her appeal? And where the hell is Cornell West? I still say this was one of the better shows this season, and I loving hate this season. Maybe its because Bill wasn't yelling at the audience, unless I missed something.
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Personally I find his faux progressivism to be insufferable. This last season made me lose a lot of respect for the man. Also, the new remake for the intro sucks.
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Gimmedaroot posted:what the gently caress is her appeal? S.E. Cupp gets invited so Bill can flirt with her the same way he does whenever he lets Coulter spew her bile on his show. It's an "aren't you precious" ploy. Oliver is eating his lunch by putting up the main topic to his show each week for an international audience to consume freely, while he's farming desperately on Friday for soundbites that, at best, might find their way onto Sunday early-morning political discussion shows before being lost in the noise of the following week. My guess is that Maher's only around because HBO really likes the occasionally good optics VICE gives them (when they aren't constantly doing weed stories) and Maher's threatened that if they get rid of him, that he'll take his "news network" with him.
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We don't need another Real Time. We just need John Oliver's show to a) go a full hour, b) run twice a week. b is optional.
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Shadow posted:We don't need another Real Time. We just need John Oliver's show to a) go a full hour, b) run twice a week. And for Oliver to stop trying to do comedy.
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