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Dial-a-Dog posted:At least it's way easier to four star Rin than it was Maully, already have mine at four after the second stage of hard, and it didn't require juggling all my good gear and dumping stamina to purple her either since you just need her in your party for her stages, she doesn't have to solo a boss Yeah. Either the experience with the Maully event told them to tone it down or the agreement with the fate people was to have it be accessible but it's a lot easier than the first one. I did 4 star Gilgamesh till it gave me the soul so I'm 4 of 5 right now. The guy with the hollow sword evades me but he may still come from pulls before this ends or with grail points after if I can finish high enough ranked. What does annoy me is the rates aren't up for the new ones and I just get a bunch of stuff I already have. Plus the inventory juggling is bloody annoying - needs more space.
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I haven't gotten poo poo this event. My 3 pulls got me my 1 guaranteed character and a thousand loving Loki's and worthless elves. So far I'm on my 11th 4star Gilgamesh run and not a single shard so far. Hopefully my RNG changes soon.
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fullTimeLurker posted:I haven't gotten poo poo this event. My 3 pulls got me my 1 guaranteed character and a thousand loving Loki's and worthless elves. So far I'm on my 11th 4star Gilgamesh run and not a single shard so far. Hopefully my RNG changes soon. ELF LIVES MATTER! Especially when the challenge says clear with 2 in the team... I'd like to change my mind on the difficulty of this event. I got to chapter 10 on hard this evening and the difficulty has gone from 'barely paying attention' to 'how the gently caress am I supposed to get 3 stars here?' just by turning the page from 9. The 100% immunity golems are back along with elf archer packs which destroy your rear units (which are the only ones that can scratch the golems). I kept going to see if I could get the next Rin souls at the end of chapter 10 but even the stupid trash fights between the star ones kill my team off halfway through the chapter. Taking a healer doesn't work as it simply can't keep up. Plan B is to go through my collection to find anything that can hit the back rows (or all at once), get pips on them, move gear around and see if I can at least finish hard before the event ends. If any of you have team compositions that work, please post them. I imagine I'll need one team for the physical immune ones and another for the magic immune. I'll face the 'include 2 beasts' one later somehow.
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did another 10-pull. Got Archer's and Saber's weapons, and Shirou as my guaranteed hero 
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Ratzap posted:ELF LIVES MATTER! Especially when the challenge says clear with 2 in the team... I have most of the characters available to me, but man I can't figure out anyone to use who would do a better job there. Odin would probably be nice, but he is of course one of the ones I don't have
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So if saber is guaranteed on tenth multi summon, is that ten on just one of the Fate summons or can it be a mix of the three different ones?
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U-DO Burger posted:did another 10-pull. Got Archer's and Saber's weapons, and Shirou as my guaranteed hero Good job that man! Shirou is the one I don't have but you can keep him since he's probably the worst of the UBW ones. Dial-a-Dog posted:I hate the immunity golems, I made it to 10-1 using a Heim/Thor/Hel/Freya/Gull team, and once I got there I got stopped cold by the physical immune/healer/archer pack at the end. The mages just don't hurt the golems fast enough to get through them before the archers have slaughtered them, and since they're therian archers Thor can't stun them with his ability, at least that worked on the elves. They are a really cheesy poo poo way to make the end harder. I went through my units and I found some candidates. Sabre obviously because she's super boosted so she can tank plus do good damage. Skuld's skill damages all enemies and heals friends so I'll try slotting her in. Aegir does back row water damage and Thor still stuns the elves at least. Nautica is back row water damage, Vidofnir is back row fire damage, Mani is back row dark plus sleep and Jormungand does back row damage too. The idea being if I can't get past the golems quickly then just slaughter the poo poo behind them first.
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I just applied to SÖMTHINGSMÖRBOLL. If there is any space. Oh my name is Dapper Piglet
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fullTimeLurker posted:I just applied to SÖMTHINGSMÖRBOLL. If there is any space. There's a few inactives, I will make space for you. Edit: No wait, I can't. Sorry. I guess only the Jarl can?
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Ratzap posted:Good job that man! Shirou is the one I don't have but you can keep him since he's probably the worst of the UBW ones. So out of curiosity, how would you guys rate all the new UBW character, including Gilgamesh.
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stratego posted:There's a few inactives, I will make space for you. Any co-jarl should be able to as well but how to do it is kind of un-intuitive. Press title then hit the kick button. But he's in now so someone got it. fullTimeLurker posted:So out of curiosity, how would you guys rate all the new UBW character, including Gilgamesh. My personal ratings (but much in line with what you'll find via google) Saber - best of them, she's great. High amount of light damage to all plus self ATK buff plus all stat debuffs removed. Female melee so she can use the purity ring. She's basically a Thor replacement and for this event she's amazing. Someone worked out she has a 5 to 6x stat multiplier for the event chapters and gilgamesh strikes. I've been using her to tank the Chapter 10 hard fights and she barely takes damage at 3 stars. Rin - Excellent for this event due to multipliers. Generally not that stellar. The random ailment might be useful but it's random. Fire damage is good but then again she's '3 nearest' which is nothing special. Archer - Seems like his 'hit nearest and farthest' trick should be handy but as a 3 star purple I'm just not seeing it. His boost in the event isn't as extreme and he's much squishier than Saber which isn't helpful seeing as he's in the front row. Gilgamesh - Dark damage and fear to the front row sounds good but it's aesir and jotun only. Plus mines 2 star and not exactly a shining light even with event boosts. Shiro - don't have this one but consensus appears to be 'average to meh'. High hit damage but single target only and it's the nearest. I whittled down the choices for dealing with the golems + archers problem. Vidofnir is the best choice for the archer slot but only at 5 star (mines 4) so Nautica is the next best. I have her at 5 star and if I get her fully orbed she should be able to survive long enough (may need gear juggling too). Skuld definitely helps and I'll be orbing her up too.
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Speaking of Orbing, is it usually recommended to try and Max out 1 character at a time, or get everyone to 2orb purple, then 3 orb purple and so on?
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I prioritized maxing Thor's pips first, now I'm kind of jumping between Freya and Heim. Having a maxed heavy hitter like that has really helped for arena and onslaught, but it takes an incredible amount of stamina to get there, I don't think I'll focus another character like that
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fullTimeLurker posted:Speaking of Orbing, is it usually recommended to try and Max out 1 character at a time, or get everyone to 2orb purple, then 3 orb purple and so on? I don't actually have a single fully orbed unit. I've got my arena team to 2 pips first then got as many as possible to purple frames (over 50 now I think, got some award for it a while back) to give me a large pool of useful units which can be rapidly improved. When I hit a brick wall I try to figure out which units I can orb up to get past it. So my Thor and Luca are almost fully orbed but I stopped because they finished the campaign as is. As Dial-a-Dog says, it's horrifically expensive in terms of stamina. I'll keep testing Nautica on the stage I'm stuck at as I orb her up, if I pass the stage before she's maxed out I'll stop but I have a feeling this is going to be the first fully orbed unit. Chapter 10 hard is brutal. BTW, did anyone pull that cat girl? I know Ateam are a business but jeez guys, pandering to the furries now too? The ancient Norse god of animal humpers...
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Thanks Dial-a-Dog and Ratzap. I have Heim at 2 purple but wIthout any dmg dealers past base purple the events are getting a little hard. And yeah, the stamina cost is outrageous. At least 5k stamina for a full set of purple orb levels. One of the main problems I'm having is knowing who to use. Example which archer should do use? Nautica 5* but don't have her weapons Wolfgang 5* and have both is regular and X wpn at 4* Verdania 4* and her regular wpn only at 3* I started raising up Verdania because she was rated higher on the tier list, but I honestly have no clue what I'm doing with my heroes. And tanks, do. I use Heim cause I got his cute dog armor to 5*. The dwarf tank or the human shield chick. They all seem to do different things, but I don't want to raise all 3 since that's so expensive.
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Ratzap posted:BTW, did anyone pull that cat girl? I know Ateam are a business but jeez guys, pandering to the furries now too? The ancient Norse god of animal humpers... fullTimeLurker posted:Thanks Dial-a-Dog and Ratzap. I have Heim at 2 purple but wIthout any dmg dealers past base purple the events are getting a little hard. And yeah, the stamina cost is outrageous. At least 5k stamina for a full set of purple orb levels. I don't have Nautica, and my Verdandi is only at 4* with no weapons, so I can't really speak to how she compares to Wolfgang directly. Wolfgang's probably the easiest to focus out of the three though, since you've already got him 5* with both his weapons, and personally I've never even seen Nautica's weapons drop yet, so they seem rarer than Wolf's. He's pretty good generally, and mine is usually one of my top damage sources against guild battle crystals, so he's probably a safe bet
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I'm working on getting Luca maxed out, and then I'll move on to Thor. Not like I've got anything better to spend this stamina on
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Thanks for answering all my questions. I'm also wondering how you guys keep your heroes up to date when your account levels up. Do you guys use mana or run the 3x XP events?
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Both, I guess, I use the 3X events to stock up on mana and max out core units (and level up second string units), then when there's no event on I use the mana I have to keep the important guys topped up.
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Dial-a-Dog posted:Both, I guess, I use the 3X events to stock up on mana and max out core units (and level up second string units), then when there's no event on I use the mana I have to keep the important guys topped up. All my units are now 55 but I got them there by doing this. When the 3x is up, use it to level sub par units, turn in the flasks and use that mana to level your core. Rinse, repeat while balancing the stamina costs against other things you need to get done. Of your archers, Wolfgang and Nautica are your choices. The difference between 4* and 5* is too huge to overlook. Wolfgang's special is a bit random for my taste and I don't use that limit much though his weapon is decent. Nautica's attack is much better IMO since it targets the back row and does water damage but the special weapon is pretty crap (I have one but I don't use it on her). On top of that she shares the limit with Freya which makes for a big bang. For tanks I use Luca, she's way beyond solid and virtually immune to charm. The protection can always be replaced by Luflit for fights where you know everyone takes damage regularly or heal it with Baldr/Urd. You want to raise and gear all three anyway though for grand arena. If you have him, get Hrungnir developed as he makes a great tank too. Dial-a-Dog posted:Looks like someone never read the old sagas where Thor hung out with murderous maids and cat girls I laughed until it dawned on me there's probably rule 34 material floating about with that.
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Okay I really wanted saber, but so far with 3 10x pulls I've gotten nothing. Should I spend my last 3k diamonds on another 10x pull or give up?
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fullTimeLurker posted:Okay I really wanted saber, but so far with 3 10x pulls I've gotten nothing. Should I spend my last 3k diamonds on another 10x pull or give up? The rule of gachas is to never chase a single item because your odds are poo poo. I say wait. The banner isn't going away for two more weeks, and you'll have more UBW points by then. Depending on how seasonal rewards are distributed (there are 3 seasons in this event, I think. And hopefully we're getting UBW points at the end of each), you might get enough points to just buy Saber from the trader.
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Thank you for being the voice of reason. I needed that
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But on the other hand: ex...CALIBUUUUUR
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U-DO Burger posted:The rule of gachas is to never chase a single item because your odds are poo poo. I say wait. The banner isn't going away for two more weeks, and you'll have more UBW points by then. Depending on how seasonal rewards are distributed (there are 3 seasons in this event, I think. And hopefully we're getting UBW points at the end of each), you might get enough points to just buy Saber from the trader. And let's not forget, just like flares and sideburns, this poo poo is going to come back again and again. I'd be very surprised if they didn't repeat it with the same sort of frequency as onslaught. BTW, max orbed Nautica is not tough enough even with def/mdef gear. So I went back and picked the archer unit with the highest earth resistance (elf archers shoot earth damage) and 5 stars. Succubus Liciela at 2 pips got me past the one I was stuck at but the next is even more insane. Basically it looks like you need a bunch of fully maxxed units to swap around for each one of the last stages if you want to get anywhere. The next stage has 3 or less as a completion requirement and it mixes both types of immunity golem together. Plus a time limit of course. Hey, what do you know, I just did it as I typed this up - Sabre, Thor and Rin. Just 2 excruciating stages to go before I can die horribly on Hell.
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Reading the difficulties that Ratzap is having with Hard mode is making me laugh at me from a week ago when I thought that I might be able to make it through Hard. I find the difficulty level just bizarre. It doesn't make sense to me to have such a huge chunk of levels that can only be completed by god-teams. Save the bullshit difficulties for boss fights and connect battles, holy poo poo. I'm absolutely NOT going to be able to get all of Tohsaka's souls, and I don't see hero quests available for her. Is she going to be stuck at 4* forever? My Season 1 reward is.... 600 points. Okay, so buying units just isn't going to happen. I'm not a fan of how so much of this event is aimed towards top tier teams. Give the newer players some cool stuff too 
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U-DO Burger posted:Save the bullshit difficulties for boss fights and connect battles, holy poo poo. I'm absolutely NOT going to be able to get all of Tohsaka's souls, and I don't see hero quests available for her. Is she going to be stuck at 4* forever?
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U-DO Burger posted:Reading the difficulties that Ratzap is having with Hard mode is making me laugh at me from a week ago when I thought that I might be able to make it through Hard. I find the difficulty level just bizarre. It doesn't make sense to me to have such a huge chunk of levels that can only be completed by god-teams. Save the bullshit difficulties for boss fights and connect battles, holy poo poo. I'm absolutely NOT going to be able to get all of Tohsaka's souls, and I don't see hero quests available for her. Is she going to be stuck at 4* forever? Maully hasn't been back yet or put into hero quests so yeah, probably going to be 4 star for a while but I do expect they'll be back sometime. I got 1500 tokens from the first bit which just leaves me wondering just how much macroing was going on, if there was cheating of some kind or just obscene spending. Even given limitless funds, how did they get time to run enough connects for over 1 million grail points? I finished Hard last night after an hour or so of fiddling. Hell was released today and starts off at the difficulty about where Hard chapter 9 ended. I reckon any play testing by A Team was done with fully maxxed out units and gear, you know, the sort of things it'll take most people a year or so to reach. IMO Hard is what Hell should have been, I have a pretty decent team but I was struggling hard at the end. I'm not optimistic about getting Rin to 5 star this time round. Stuck on Chapter 1-3 already: kill a 5 star super Saber in 70 seconds with 1 or less deaths with a skill or LB. The first time she did her Excalibur I lost 3 units, got her to 50%. As you say, this is geared to people spending a few thousand dollars to max all these units out in a short time frame. But at least I got lucky and pulled Illyasviel from the first set of the 3 step for part 2. I might have another pull to see if I get Lancer but I have all the good units now, it might be wiser to quit while I'm ahead. Seeing as there are already people with 155,000+ grail points again, I think I'll end any effort with this event here rather than put in any effort.
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I only got 1000 tokens from my rankings (finished just short of the next tier) so now I've gotta stay in the top 1000 OR fully complete hard mode, and it's looking like being top 1000 is way, way easier. Also my only FATE unit was Shirou, the only unit without his own 3 star gear, which kinda sucks because if I dont get 5k tokens I've gently caress all to spend them on. Here's hoping I can pull literally any other FATE unit before this events ends.
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I did another 3 UWB2 pulls and got 95 souls for the trader, Illyasviel's 3 star weapon (score) and Lancer (score). So that just leaves Shirou and dress Saber - Shiro can be obtained from contracts and dress Saber is supposed to be fan service rather than a serious unit. If I can pick up Shirou later, fine but I've got what I want now. I might skip Shirou and use the tokens to buy excalibur X instead though. My arena teams are slipping down the ranks too. I need to check out what the top ones are using because the prevailing meta has obviously changed.
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Jehuti posted:I only got 1000 tokens from my rankings (finished just short of the next tier) so now I've gotta stay in the top 1000 OR fully complete hard mode, and it's looking like being top 1000 is way, way easier. Archer and Ilya's gear aren't exclusive, so you can buy those
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Lots of new stuff again today, the game is getting rather crowded with specials. I got the Sonya spear then realised that you can equip the same item as is in the costume slot - for some reason I assumed you needed one in each. You might as well grab the 300 diamonds from that game they're pumping too. It's a bit of a download and seems to give you the freebies once you finish the tutorial part. The easter eggs don't really seem worth chasing. The gold 3 star is 550 exp, silver 132 and bronze 66. I spent yesterday turning my 11 million mana pile into gear. I got a 4 star Excalibur built up and some other collab items though they are a hell of a lot rarer than the usual crud. All my common units are 5 star now too plus a health addition to the soul bank and loads of levels on the good gear.
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I just got Rin to five stars and need to go back and mop up some levels for three star clears. I've gotten Saber, Archer, and Illya, and was able to purchase Excalibur x from the trader. I think I have Lancers weapon too, but doubt it's worth throwing stones after. I'm unsure of what to focus on next.
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You don't even need to play the other game, just download and launch it, I didn't even make it past the first loading screen and got my 300 diamonds. Also I bought the Easter spear, and used the diamonds for a collab pull, finally got saber, hopefully I can get her powered up to 3* the last mission I need for Rin, it was looking kind of hopeless before. I got the spear because I saw a thing on Reddit about how Sonia is secretly amazing at shredding a few of the connect bosses with her anti air and earth damage. Still haven't tried it out yet but it wasn't a very expensive package so whatever
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Got Ilya as my second guaranteed FSN character. How is she compared to the others? (I have Rin, Saber, and Working on getting Gil.)
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So I decided to finally download this silly anime on a lark and my initial tutorial pull included the 3* version of Freya I am given to understand that is Pretty Good (now I need to get a bunch of my wonderful type-moon animes, if I can manage it)
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stratego posted:I just got Rin to five stars and need to go back and mop up some levels for three star clears. I'm glad you posted this. It encouraged me to go back and try to get further in. Much to my amazement you only have to get to the end of chapter 5 to get the last 15 Rin souls which I then proceeded to do. I don't know if I can be arsed making a serious attempt to clear Hell. Yes it's 1500 extra contracts but the time and effort to clear some of the more annoying stages is pretty high. I took one look at the 5 star Rin and burst out laughing though - it's very similar to some school uniforms in/around Glasgow. The man called M posted:Got Ilya as my second guaranteed FSN character. How is she compared to the others? (I have Rin, Saber, and Working on getting Gil.) Depends a lot on what the curse part of her skill is. As is she should be good for hurting Luca, if the curse dampens or stops healing it'll make her a tank killer.
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