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Panic! at Nabisco posted:I notice a lot of reviews have difficulty with the concept of a game forcing a player character to commit unpleasant actions without implicitly condoning those actions. So, so many games are player avatar power fantasies that I guess it's just become expected. I interpreted it as how sometimes mental illness just makes you do lovely stuff in front of your eyes even if inwardly you know it's bad, which at least in my experience it really does. I thought it was Mae's personality since she is friends with Gregg and they used to commit crimes in HS. Most of her problems with mental illness occur when she was in college and during the ending scenes. She is not a Bad Person per se but just a different type of MC than what I'm used to for story games.
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Alder posted:I thought it was Mae's personality since she is friends with Gregg and they used to commit crimes in HS. Most of her problems with mental illness occur when she was in college and during the ending scenes. She is not a Bad Person per se but just a different type of MC than what I'm used to for story games. Angus pretty much sums her up in "Legends" when he says, "Mae I don't think you're a bad person but I do not trust you with any part of this process." She's smart enough to know right from wrong but she has Complications when it comes to interacting with polite society. I like how she still tends to hit it right off with outcasts and weirdos like Lori M., Germ, and the Hollerers for the same reason she constantly strikes out with normal people - she's too oblivious to really know what she should or shouldn't do in social situations, so it lets her reach out to people who'd otherwise be ignored.
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FreeKillB posted:That review is I like the "as it’s fairly obvious from the start that there are no ghosts." part. Like no poo poo, the point of those scenes isn't the hunting of ghosts. No one playing the game is under any real impression that there's a ghost
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Macaluso posted:I like the "as it’s fairly obvious from the start that there are no ghosts." part. Like no poo poo, the point of those scenes isn't the hunting of ghosts. No one playing the game is under any real impression that there's a ghost Ghost DNA can't melt steel beams.
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Alder posted:I thought it was Mae's personality since she is friends with Gregg and they used to commit crimes in HS. Most of her problems with mental illness occur when she was in college and during the ending scenes. She is not a Bad Person per se but just a different type of MC than what I'm used to for story games. Yeah it's not as clear cut as Mae making bad decisions because she has mental health problems. It's also the fact that she's regressed to her childhood by coming back to Possum Springs, and the fact that there's gently caress-all else to do in a dying mining town than shoplift and break things. God knows that is borne out by reality. The idea that the game is condoning her behavior at all is a hilariously backward interpretation though, one that you can only get to by ignoring the obvious negative effects Mae is having on her relationships.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:I notice a lot of reviews have difficulty with the concept of a game forcing a player character to commit unpleasant actions without implicitly condoning those actions. So, so many games are player avatar power fantasies that I guess it's just become expected. I interpreted it as how sometimes mental illness just makes you do lovely stuff in front of your eyes even if inwardly you know it's bad, which at least in my experience it really does. i came to that conclusion fairly quickly but id be lying if i said i didnt try to avoid smashing poo poo in her first dream thinking that good behaviour might have a positive effect. its kind of funny how i defaulted to player avatar gameplay before just going with the flow. i almost want to tell friends i get to play this game to not worry about it jabby posted:The idea that the game is condoning her behavior at all is a hilariously backward interpretation though, one that you can only get to by ignoring the obvious negative effects Mae is having on her relationships. you could argue that mae acting careless and immorally actively helps her connect with bea. in fact, the bad stuff she does with bea involve stealing, spraying people with a water cannon, smashing a furnace and digging up a grave and they're both bonding activities and unpunished. thats a long way from saying that the game actually condones her behaviour though Verviticus fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Verviticus posted:you could argue that mae acting careless and immorally actively helps her connect with bea. in fact, the bad stuff she does with bea involve stealing, spraying people with a water cannon, smashing a furnace and digging up a grave and they're both bonding activities and unpunished. thats a long way from saying that the game actually condones her behaviour though True. Bea makes her put the stuff she stole back though, and the furnace was broken when they got there and needed to be smashed to get them out of the basement. Still leaves spraying people with water and vandalising a cemetery I guess, but the second one was at least in pursuit of answers rather than just hijinks.
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I don't think the game condones Mae's behavior, but it does show that people like Bea who work hard and play by the rules still get screwed anyway. It's really important that Bea exists in NITW or it very easily could all be handwaved away as millenial angst.
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Bea yelling "My mom dying wasn't badass!" is like the worst fight in the game even after the Mom fight. There are so many time Mae has me screaming "nooooooooooooo" in this game, i literally had to take a quick walk away from the computer when she revealed Bea was from Possum Springs at the college party
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The best/worst part about Mae's social pratfalls is that she's totally oblivious to them. You'd think that some part of her brain would be screaming "STOOOOOOOPPPPP" during things like her little exchange at the college party but nope, nothing to worry about here!
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Oxxidation posted:The best/worst part about Mae's social pratfalls is that she's totally oblivious to them. You'd think that some part of her brain would be screaming "STOOOOOOOPPPPP" during things like her little exchange at the college party but nope, nothing to worry about here! There is, it's you.
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NewMars posted:There is, it's you. Man I'm gonna be thinking about that for awhile
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NewMars posted:There is, it's you. 
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Oxxidation posted:The best/worst part about Mae's social pratfalls is that she's totally oblivious to them. You'd think that some part of her brain would be screaming "STOOOOOOOPPPPP" during things like her little exchange at the college party but nope, nothing to worry about here! There are no brakes on this Mae train 
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Oxxidation posted:The best/worst part about Mae's social pratfalls is that she's totally oblivious to them. You'd think that some part of her brain would be screaming "STOOOOOOOPPPPP" during things like her little exchange at the college party but nope, nothing to worry about here! I had no idea anything was going wrong in that part until Bea ran away, and I had no idea why Bea ran away until I caught up with her at the river.  What happens if you agree to go dance some more? Does Mae just say, "OK, just gimme a minute to dress down Mr. Poli Sci here." ArgumentatumE.C.T. fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:I notice a lot of reviews have difficulty with the concept of a game forcing a player character to commit unpleasant actions without implicitly condoning those actions. So, so many games are player avatar power fantasies that I guess it's just become expected. I interpreted it as how sometimes mental illness just makes you do lovely stuff in front of your eyes even if inwardly you know it's bad, which at least in my experience it really does. the murdering of those with families trying to make a decent living via the only methods they are capable in a cruel society in the game Axelust Murderking is just compared to the atrocity that is messing up someone's pots and pans in the evil simulator known only as Night in the Woods.
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ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:I had no idea anything was going wrong in that part until Bea ran away, and I had no idea why Bea ran away until I caught up with her at the river. literally nothing
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anime was right posted:the murdering of those with families trying to make a decent living via the only methods they are capable in a cruel society in the game Axelust Murderking is just compared to the atrocity that is messing up someone's pots and pans in the evil simulator known only as Night in the Woods. Hey don't forget the damage to the bathroom
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Really good analysis of the ending (major spoilers, obvs.): https://no-cartridge.com/the-monster-at-the-end-of-capitalism-ddf21fac8ae7
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Asymmetrikon posted:Really good analysis of the ending (major spoilers, obvs.): https://no-cartridge.com/the-monster-at-the-end-of-capitalism-ddf21fac8ae7 Fantastic! I always appreciate writers who put my thoughts into words better than I will.
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Verviticus posted:literally nothing Well not really. You just keep dancing. Then control is given back. I started playing again after I beat it, because I wanted to see the Gregg scenes (I did all Bea stuff first because I liked her, Mae and Bea reminded me of the trash gals in Undertale), but then I was just speedrunning past like... everything to get the first part of the game over with and like... I dunno, it felt wrong to go past Selmers and the teacher and the kids and... I dunno. However, regarding the thing you find outside the diner. If you poke the arm too much without revealing the tattoo, your aunt shows up without you finding it, and it doesn't go into the journal. Damnit, I just wanted to click the roach! So I guess I oughta start over again anyway.
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Skunkrocker posted:Well not really. You just keep dancing. Then control is given back. he means immediately before she says all the embarrassing things. i said yes every time and she just says Sure! and then the same dialog happens Verviticus fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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jabby posted:Such a good game. Nothing happens next because it is a game.
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precision posted:Nothing happens next because it is a game. how does it feel to be so incredibly boring
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precision posted:Nothing happens next because it is a game. It's just like... pixels.
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gently caress yeah that's really cool.
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That's pretty amazing.
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Super Best Friends just started an LP of NitW, and their intro is pretty cool.
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Arkannoyed posted:Super Best Friends just started an LP of NitW, and their intro is pretty cool. Reading every line in wacky voices is going to sink that one quick.
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Oxxidation posted:Reading every line in wacky voices is going to sink that one quick. All the YouTubers that do this really should not. It's not that I'm even against having the characters voiced, it's just these people are uniformly terrible.
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Oxxidation posted:Reading every line in wacky voices is going to sink that one quick. I have a shocking secret to reveal to everyone: It won't. It doesn't sink any of the big youtubers that play the game, the majority of people want the voices. The majority of people want the silly voices always
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Arkannoyed posted:Super Best Friends just started an LP of NitW, and their intro is pretty cool. I can't get over "su'p"
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Oxxidation posted:Reading every line in wacky voices is going to sink that one quick. Not only do they always do that, but when they played Undertale, they also spent every scene with Sans mimicking the sound of his dialogue noise. They're really loving bad about this kind of thing. I really should unfollow them on YouTube.
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lol just lol if you think I'm clicking on that lovely youtuber lets play link
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Oxxidation posted:Reading every line in wacky voices is going to sink that one quick. They're just reading them in their normal voices it sounds like, which is a nice change of pace from every other playthrough of this game.
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On a note unrelated to  Let's Players,I finally got this game started. I'm just wondering-any tips for the band practice? Other than "get gud", of course. Those kinda minigames have always been a pain in my rear end.
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Don't worry about it. You don't have to do well to pass (and there's actually an achievement for sucking hard at all of them) and the final one will break your puny fingers.
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Oxxidation posted:Don't worry about it. You don't have to do well to pass (and there's actually an achievement for sucking hard at all of them) and the final one will break your puny fingers. Oh,good to hear. Because that last part where you have to press ALL THE BUTTONS at once destroyed me.
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