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John Mcdonald gave a talk in Year last december saying he expected a general election this year: I think Labour HQ has done some planning (or at least I hope so if the shadow chancellor expected this) Also: New gerrymandered boundaries arn't in yet at least!
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Did anyone else catch the BBC reporter on live television, cutting away from his interview mid-sentence to yell at ministers from 30 feet away, MR JOHNSON! MR JOHNSON! ARE YOU HAPPY? MR JOHNSON! good tele m8
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this is probably the best thing that could have happened for the lib dems as a party
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Apr 18, 2017 11:28
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TheRat posted:Is there even a remote possibility that labour hasn't planned for this eventuality? I don't buy the "no advanced planning" at all. Oh, I'd imagine there's a fair chance. They don't exactly exude competence.
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Can we expect a response from Jeremy today or is it a day off?
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TheRat posted:Is there even a remote possibility that labour hasn't planned for this eventuality? I don't buy the "no advanced planning" at all. they've talked about it a lot, so I'm sure they've considered the possibility. It may turn out better for Corbyn, McDonnel, Milne et al to pretend they were caught offguard to save their own embarrassment though.
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very clever with maracas posted:Did anyone else catch the BBC reporter on live television, cutting away from his interview mid-sentence to yell at ministers from 30 feet away, MR JOHNSON! MR JOHNSON! ARE YOU HAPPY? MR JOHNSON! I like how he admitted that no-one would answer him after trying it twice.
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Apr 18, 2017 11:30
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Looking forward to this.
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Apr 18, 2017 11:30
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Baron Corbyn posted:the absolute madwoman It's a mercy killing for the Labour Party. Surely even somone like Corbyn will know he must resign if he leads his party to electoral ruin. Once he's gone you can start to rebuild.
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okay but what if this is the wake-up call and the Labour Right finally shuts the gently caress up and stands with Corbyn and the membership, if only for their own self-preservation?
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Pissflaps posted:Can we expect a response from Jeremy today or is it a day off? Weather is good so hes probably on his allotment so probably doesn't know yet.
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forkboy84 posted:When is it ever not? Thought you'd be happy though Tess, you're going to get a government to definitely lead us over the cliff of Brexit and into abject misery. The Tories being in power won't change, but decimating Labour is definitely not a good outcome.
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Apr 18, 2017 11:29
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might just be coincidence that Jeremy started announcing labour policies over the last week actually knowing Jeremy it probably was
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Apr 18, 2017 11:30
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Kokoro Wish posted:Looking forward to this. Because you live in another country and are therefore insulated from the result of your support for Jeremy Corbyn and his loving of the Labour Party?
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Apr 18, 2017 11:30
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"The fight starts now" - Jeremy Corbyn, June 9th 2017
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Who's the twat on sky news talking about "I think the people in this country like democracy, they like to vote!" ?
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ukle posted:Weather is good so hes probably on his allotment so probably doesn't know yet. Please God let him respond live while holding a courgette.
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Coohoolin posted:This might cost the SNP some seats if unionist/leaver voters are sufficiently motivated. Possibly, 2015 was an extremely good result, but the inevitable focus on Brexit will strongly favour the nats. All of that stuff about the "day job" is going to be a hard sell now too, especially in the next couple of weeks leading to the local elections. Is Ruth going to start talking about bin collections and motoring offences this Thursday?
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ElNarez posted:okay but what if this is the wake-up call and the Labour Right finally shuts the gently caress up and stands with Corbyn and the membership, if only for their own self-preservation? lol, good one!
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Apr 18, 2017 11:31
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Alertrelic posted:Possibly, 2015 was an extremely good result, but the inevitable focus on Brexit will strongly favour the nats. A general election is a bit different to a constant search for grievance and referenda.
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Apr 18, 2017 11:32
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Need that Tory majority well-cemented to be able to destroy workers' rights after Brexit That's not a joke or irony in any way - we're all utterly hosed. Expect a 60%+ tory scum presence in parliament forevermore
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Apr 18, 2017 11:32
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"The mess we inherited from the Labour government" Can't wait to hear the classics again.
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Apr 18, 2017 11:32
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TheRat posted:Is there even a remote possibility that labour hasn't planned for this eventuality? I don't buy the "no advanced planning" at all. I suspect Corbyn's been too busy fending off blairites since taking office for long term election planning, so I suspect that today was bad for Corbyn but then, I've not really followed ukpol in about 6 months - don't the tories have a supermajority already? what's the benefit of calling a snap election?
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Theresa May posted:In recent weeks Labour has threatened to vote against the deal we reach with the European Union.
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Pissflaps posted:Because you live in another country and are therefore insulated from the result of your support for Jeremy Corbyn and his loving of the Labour Party? No, because I'm looking forward to coming back at some point, would love a Corbyn government and want to see what happens when his policies can't be hidden from the public eye anymore. I have family and friends in the UK and want only the best for them. That means a left-wing Labour government. Polls show that people like the policies. Let's see how it goes. vv: This too.
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This election will be our chance to see how much the divisive Blairites harping on have damaged the Labour party. It can only be seen as an opportunity to rebuild Labour as a true party of the Left.
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Kokoro Wish posted:No, because I'm looking forward to coming back at some point, would love a Corbyn government and want to see what happens when his policies can't be hidden from the public eye anymore. Jesus you're utterly delusional.
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Apr 18, 2017 11:34
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The Tories will use Brexit as their main (and pretty much only) campaign issue. If Labour wants any sort of chance, it needs to avoid taking the bet. They should run on a platform of NHS, public infrastructure (trains etc) and exposing/getting more out of the rich & mega corps. They should bat off Brexit and make it a side issue by just saying they'll ofc go with the public vote.
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Apr 18, 2017 11:33
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So what is Labor gonna campaign on? They can't really campaign on staying in the EU, but they could campaign on keeping free movement in exchange for market access since that's the one thing the EU won't compromise on. That would force the Tories to adopt the position of no access and it's something that can motivate people to turn up at the polls if they don't want Brexit.
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And so it begins https://twitter.com/benfenton/status/854275278100713473
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Demiurge4 posted:So what is Labor gonna campaign on? They can't really campaign on staying in the EU, but they could campaign on keeping free movement in exchange for market access since that's the one thing the EU won't compromise on. That would force the Tories to adopt the position of no access and it's something that can motivate people to turn up at the polls if they don't want Brexit. To be fair to Labour, there will be other issues to campaign on rather than Brexit.
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Demiurge4 posted:So what is Labor gonna campaign on? They can't really campaign on staying in the EU, but they could campaign on keeping free movement in exchange for market access since that's the one thing the EU won't compromise on. That would force the Tories to adopt the position of no access and it's something that can motivate people to turn up at the polls if they don't want Brexit. If only Corbyn and Labour had been putting out policies for some weeks now, th... wait a minute.
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Kokoro Wish posted:No, because I'm looking forward to coming back at some point, would love a Corbyn government and want to see what happens when his policies can't be hidden from the public eye anymore. I have family and friends in the UK and want only the best for them. That means a left-wing Labour government. Polls show that people like the policies. Let's see how it goes. He's going to get beaten senseless and then resign. The tories are going to have absolute power and that will be his legacy.
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Demiurge4 posted:So what is Labor gonna campaign on? They can't really campaign on staying in the EU, but they could campaign on keeping free movement in exchange for market access since that's the one thing the EU won't compromise on. That would force the Tories to adopt the position of no access and it's something that can motivate people to turn up at the polls if they don't want Brexit. Same thing he's been campaigning on at the moment - a soft Brexit. That is the popular choice of the leaving-options.
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Pissflaps posted:A general election is a bit different to a constant search for grievance and referenda. The entire thing is going to be about the EU referendum and maintaining England's spurious grievances with Europe.
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