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Party Boat posted:He has no way of preventing it and looks like a complete coward if he tries. If his position is so weak that he cannot contest a general election, he is not fit to lead. That's just idiocy, Labour could have Jesus Christ as their leader and regardless they're not turning around opinion in just 2 months. Giving in to this is letting Theresa May take your lunch money. Unless I'm misunderstanding the 2011 change Labour and the SNP are enough to block this stunt and they have nothing to lose by doing so. The next election is in 4 years, the electorate won't remember because they'll be too busy admiring the UK's economy burning in the case of a hard exit or calling for Theresa May's death if there is a soft exit.
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Apr 18, 2017 14:44
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WTf are these people saying Labour should vote against a GE? Labour is the opposition party. It is their sole job to oppose the Government. If it is given the opportunity to do so at the polls, its only credible option is to take that opportunity. They can't say WE THINK THE TORIES ARE DOING A TERRIBLE JOB WE WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE UK but not yet please we need more time to get ready, 4 yrs sound ok  ?
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The conservatives have a very simple line if it goes that way (self no confidence): "We're only taking this approach due to the cowardice of the Labour party." What's the line for Labour (who I feel I should remind you are the opposition) if they have to defend a decision to keep the current government in place? edit: I'm not saying Corbyn should stand down now, for better or for worse he is the Labour leader going into this GE. However he is a bad leader and should be replaced at the first opportunity. Party Boat fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Apr 18, 2017 14:45
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MP's are doing statements in the house at 3:30. The biggest uncertainty I'm hearing about it is which Labour back bencher is going to undermine Corbyn's position first.
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Apr 18, 2017 14:51
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Labour should pledge to wipe the student loan book and abolish fees. Lets face it a 30k+ bribe for the under 30s could work.
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Apr 18, 2017 14:54
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Sent an email off to Julie Hilling who was the last labour MP here and has been coordinating the Labour party - she seems pretty decent looking at her twitter which is nice.
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Apr 18, 2017 14:55
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Labour is likely to lose the GE by crushing landslide regardless of what it does, so i would suggest at least some caution before advocating that it should taint your favourite policy with the loss.
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Ewan posted:WTf are these people saying Labour should vote against a GE? Labour is the opposition party. It is their sole job to oppose the Government. If it is given the opportunity to do so at the polls, its only credible option is to take that opportunity. Sometimes pragmatism isn't actually the worst option. When the choice is between a guaranteed increased Tory majority or carrying on with the Tories having a shaky majority, gently caress optics. The British electorate have no memory, as the potential Lib Dem fight back is showing. Committing electoral suicide and guaranteeing 5 more years instead of 3 of Tory government is a bad idea, gently caress optics.
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Apr 18, 2017 14:57
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I don't understand old people. The government takes away their pensions and yet they still want to vote blue so they can brag about how they are "comfortably off". Old people are the most likely to vote too, everyone needs to put their grandparents in solitary homes asap.
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Apr 18, 2017 14:58
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forkboy84 posted:Sometimes pragmatism isn't actually the worst option. When the choice is between a guaranteed increased Tory majority or carrying on with the Tories having a shaky majority, gently caress optics. The British electorate have no memory, as the potential Lib Dem fight back is showing. Committing electoral suicide and guaranteeing 5 more years instead of 3 of Tory government is a bad idea, gently caress optics. https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/854320943493255168
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Manic X posted:I don't understand old people. The government takes away their pensions and yet they still want to vote blue so they can brag about how they are "comfortably off". Old people are the most likely to vote too, everyone needs to put their grandparents in solitary homes asap. I don't think they've had their pensions taken away though.
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Apr 18, 2017 14:59
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As a Canuck, you could always hope for a surreal repeat of Alberta 2015. Don't know how possible a crazy swing and hilarious outcome like that is though.
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Playstation 4 posted:As a Canuck, you could always hope for a surreal repeat of Alberta 2015. Let's hope some of that 2016 magic rubs off! *awakes on June 9th to fine Aaron Banks going to Buckingham palace at the head of a government*
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forkboy84 posted:Sometimes pragmatism isn't actually the worst option. When the choice is between a guaranteed increased Tory majority or carrying on with the Tories having a shaky majority, gently caress optics. The British electorate have no memory, as the potential Lib Dem fight back is showing. Committing electoral suicide and guaranteeing 5 more years instead of 3 of Tory government is a bad idea, gently caress optics. This might be a useful argument if Labour could actually force the GE to not happen for 3 years. They can't.
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Apr 18, 2017 15:01
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Interesting that he's going hard on the public investment angle. It's exactly what's needed and a real difference from what the other parties are doing but I worry that the "Labour are bankrupting the country!" narrative will win out. I mean I'm not going to vote Labour but that's because I live in a Labour/Green marginal
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Apr 18, 2017 15:01
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So who do i vote for to prevent brexit? I'll be casting an absentee ballot in Hammersmith and Fulham.
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Apr 18, 2017 15:01
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forkboy84 posted:Sometimes pragmatism isn't actually the worst option. When the choice is between a guaranteed increased Tory majority or carrying on with the Tories having a shaky majority, gently caress optics. The British electorate have no memory, as the potential Lib Dem fight back is showing. Committing electoral suicide and guaranteeing 5 more years instead of 3 of Tory government is a bad idea, gently caress optics. There is no realistic mechanism for Labour to block an early GE. One way or another, it's happening.
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Apr 18, 2017 15:02
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At least there's a hosed up sense of amusement to be had at the people still somehow expecting the master's tools to disassemble the master's house.
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Apr 18, 2017 15:02
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Did the PM really use the phrase "smooth passage of Brexit"
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Apr 18, 2017 15:04
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Labour should have refused to back a general election until the CPS had made decisions on the battlebus spending. Just saying that could have tanked May's poll ratings.TheRat posted:This might be a useful argument if Labour could actually force the GE to not happen for 3 years. They can't. "Theresa May doesn't have confidence in her government, so why should you?"
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Apr 18, 2017 15:04
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Tesseraction posted:"How are they selling workers short?" Seaside Loafer posted:Ive said this about 100 times now but they to start shouting very loudly 3 or 4 things like the following: Labour needs to come out and say they want to build something, using the Labour force. I don't care if it's a million houses for British workers or a fuckin weather machine so that Norfolk will always be sunny post-Brexit but it needs to be something that people can imagine seeing in five years and nodding in pride that they were a part of.
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Apr 18, 2017 15:05
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Vince Cable is standing in Twickenham.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Did the PM really use the phrase "smooth passage of Brexit" "These water cannons are merely antacids to the gastrointestinal distress that threatens the smooth passage of Brexit"
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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:looking forward to debating and discussing the real issues in the lead up to election 2k17 with all the UKMT gang
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Apr 18, 2017 15:07
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my guess is that there's probably some split in the Corbyn team but defying precedent takes the chair's veto, and Corbyn doesn't seem like the type to suddenly lean hard on poll-guided wisdom to overrule committee indecision at some level he sympathises the romantic possibility that The People Will Speak Truth To Power
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Also, and I'm not making this up, May is claiming she made the decision this weekend while walking around sheep fields in Wales.
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I've recently changed my voting address back to my Mum's for various reasons. She's also recently (ish) moved - just realised my local MP is now loving Gove.
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DesperateDan posted:At least there's a hosed up sense of amusement to be had at the people still somehow expecting the master's tools to disassemble the master's house.
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Ewan posted:I've recently changed my voting address back to my Mum's for various reasons. She's also recently (ish) moved - just realised my local MP is now loving Gove. I misread this post the first time.
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Pissflaps posted:I don't think they've had their pensions taken away though. I should iterate those who are preparing to retire rather than those that are already there.
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spectralent posted:I'm hoping he's not that stupid, but he's not very good at this. Now, they just need another 5 election promises and a large stone tablet.
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Skinty McEdger posted:Also, and I'm not making this up, May is claiming she made the decision this weekend while walking around sheep fields in Wales. This is playing into my suspicion that the Tories are just as fractured as Labour, but are just keeping a much tighter lid on things for the time being. Of course it helps that they just threw their most vocal rebels the biggest bone in political history
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Also counting down until May makes some kind of statement that boils down to "God told me to do it"
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Apr 18, 2017 15:12
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wait is jbrereton actually not the Tory boy who ran in stoke?
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Apr 18, 2017 15:14
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Baron Corbyn posted:wait is jbrereton actually not the Tory boy who ran in stoke?
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Can someone tell me why Theresa May is doing this? What do these snap elections hope to achieve? If Sinn Fein and the SNP gain more ground as a result of these snap elections, can we start to expect a referendum on both Scotland and Northern Ireland leaving the UK?
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