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Voting is Closed. Intel Dump Coming Soon. I've got a backlog of stuff from Fiverr people that is overdue. I guess I can't expect much for $5 as far as speedy delivery goes.
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Yooper posted:Voting is Closed. You could always ask the goons in the voice acting thread if any of them are willing to lend their talents to the cause. Also, since we're backing the Hoff, it's only right to have an appropriate soundtrack. Edit: Also, could I be a pilot for one of future support planes? Callsign Pike. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Apr 18, 2017 22:22
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 43 Votes for the Count, 16 for the Dictator, 5 for AngerPEACE, and a single vote for Reddit. You'll notice a few new items. First, a list of airbases. We need to choose one. Each has certain benefits like range to the front, or proximity to a certain area. I'll let you guys decide. Also is the current Threat Level. This is how interested the Dictator is in our activities. If we run aid and shoot elephants, we don't generate much threat. But if we go full blown night raid and carpet bomb Huambe then it'll go up like crazy. This will dictate how many assets are sent our way. Below that is our mission success (0) and Lithium Earnings. By helping ground troops secure lithium resources we up our own earnings. Right now they don't have poo poo. Taking lithium mines will up the Threat Level quickly.  That's Angola. Lubango Airport Menogue Airport Ngjiva Pereira Airport Neighboring countries are no fly zones. Though it doesn't mean we can't fly over them, but it could deteriorate relations or lead to sanctions if we're caught. I'm working on a map of ground assets right now. But check Baloogans Wiki to see the Angolan Radar Assets. Once we've decided on our airbase we'll hire an operative. Zack "The Animal" will be back, as well as two new operatives. One is someone you've met, the other is completely bat poo poo crazy. We have a choice of missions. Each will vary in aggressiveness and goals. There's also an internal stability we need to watch for. If we don't help win this war quick(by chasing poo poo to enrich our own pockets) then our faction could fold. So - Debate and Choose an Airfield! I'll get the ground forces map up soonish, but it ain't gonna be pretty.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:31
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Lubango looks like the only one with two runways, and it puts us in a nice position near the front to support a push up the coast. Depends on whether or not that jives with the Count's ground strategy, but it buys Namibe some breathing room, and securing some coastal cities would help restrict enemy supply lines into the interior while giving us more ports to ship the lithium out of probably wouldn't hurt. Alternatively, Huambo looks like the nexus of the entire country's highway system, so taking that would be a major coup. Either way Lubango is in a good position. Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Apr 18, 2017 22:38
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I think our first target should be to knock down or capture the border radars so the Dictator is blinded.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:39
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Voting Menongue let's dive right into the heart of this poo poo.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:39
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I don't like the idea of Lubango being in the middle of a big town that seems to be in a bit of a depression when it comes to where we're going to site our ADA, but it's the only one that looks like it's got enough ramp space for all our aircraft.Crazycryodude posted:Lubango looks like the only one with two runways, and it puts us in a nice position near the front to support a push up the coast. Depends on whether or not that jives with the Count's ground strategy, but it buys Namibe some breathing room, and securing some coastal cities would help restrict enemy supply lines into the interior while giving us more ports to ship the lithium out of probably wouldn't hurt. It's not a runway, it's a full-length taxiway. If we're desperate, we can probably use it as a runway though. Quinntan fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Apr 18, 2017 22:43
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Crazycryodude posted:Lubango looks like the only one with two runways, and it puts us in a nice position near the front to support a push up the coast. Depends on whether or not that jives with the Count's ground strategy, but it buys Namibe some breathing room, and securing some coastal cities would help restrict enemy supply lines into the interior while giving us more ports to ship the lithium out of probably wouldn't hurt. I thought that was a taxiway, not another runway
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Apr 18, 2017 22:44
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Yeesh, those airfields look kind of sparse. That said, Combat Aircraft at Lubango, Support (AWACS/Tankers/C-130s) at Ngjiva Pereira. This gives us good coverage and keeps the big slow stuff safe in the rear. We could also put the small CAS (HAWK/SK-60/Frogfoot) at Menongue to harass/attack Eastern assets, but they should be perfectly fine at Lubango also.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:45
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ManifunkDestiny posted:I thought that was a taxiway, not another runway Hmm, looking closer I think you're right. Although it's a very long taxiway and I know CMANO sometimes has taxiways that can be used as runways or something along those lines. It's another long, straight, level stretch of paved ground to use if we ever need it in some kind of emergency at the very least.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:48
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Lubango It has the best facilities including what looks like a possibly runway grade taxiway. It is close to the coast which is good for transiting planes without diplomatic complications and is a potential source for missions. Also, it is close to the capital city, which might be important or it might be offset by being farther from missions to the east. glynnenstein fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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Apr 18, 2017 22:49
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I'm wondering who this mystery operative might be...we've not exactly met a long list of people. Maybe Wing Commander Rohan survived and has now gone into the private sector? Can't be Jimmy the Juggalo, since the other person was described as being totally crazy...unless that person makes Jimmy look sane in comparison.  Saros posted:I think our first target should be to knock down or capture the border radars so the Dictator is blinded. I suppose the major issue is going to be being so close to the border will mean if we get raided, we have less time to react and the bases could get overrun if things go bad on the ground. Since I've heard certain folks touting the Gripen's being able to fly off improvised strips, we might want to look into being able to expand the facilities so we can operate more birds at once. If we can spare the cash, of course.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:51
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Yvonmukluk posted:Since I've heard certain folks touting the Gripen's being able to fly off improvised strips, we might want to look into being able to expand the facilities so we can operate more birds at once. If we can spare the cash, of course. This would dovetail nicely with putting down roots in Angola like a few people have suggested, too. I'm sure the Count would love to have us hanging around after we singlehandedly save his revolution.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:57
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Yvonmukluk posted:Maybe Wing Commander Rohan survived and has now gone into the private sector? Can't be Jimmy the Juggalo, since the other person was described as being totally crazy...unless that person makes Jimmy look sane in comparison. I'd guess the one we met before is the CIA fella.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:58
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Coffeehitler posted:Yeesh, those airfields look kind of sparse. That said, Combat Aircraft at Lubango, Support (AWACS/Tankers/C-130s) at Ngjiva Pereira. This gives us good coverage and keeps the big slow stuff safe in the rear. Good thinking. A vote for Plan Coffeehitler. Yvonmukluk posted:I'm wondering who this mystery operative might be...we've not exactly met a long list of people. There are some questions which are not meant to be answered, and you've just given Yooper a drat good reason to throw "who's crazier than Jimmy" at us. I approve, for what it's worth  Crazycryodude posted:This would dovetail nicely with putting down roots in Angola like a few people have suggested, too. I'm sure the Count would love to have us hanging around after we singlehandedly save his revolution. We should probably consider keeping good relations with India for that reason, honestly. We did kind of enable them to win that "war", whether they like it or not, and having a good friend who also is on very bad terms with the Chinese would be prudent. Not to mention the whole growing potential superpower thing that we might want to ride the coattails of for a while til we have built a long-term rep and financial base.
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Apr 18, 2017 23:00
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For those suggesting that our ground forces just take out the radar stations for us, keep in mind that this isn't the remote mountains of Tibet. There are going to be actual forces in the area and probably some heavily armed locals to boot. Our ground forces have no armor, basic assault rifles, and two mags of ammo a piece. We have no comms equipment, no recon equipment, 12 men, and a stolen Geo Metro as our dedicated transport. Delta Force we are not. Plus we don't even get paid for the jobs we do for you guys. you made hundreds of millions of dollars off the strike we assisted in, and our payment was "whatever we could steal from the radar station before reinforcements show up*. That's where we got our Metro! We also got $10k from the Chinese for ransoming an officer. I'm all for helping our brothers in the sky, but keep in mind your ground forces are not operating on the same scale or economy as you guys are.
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Crazycryodude posted:This would dovetail nicely with putting down roots in Angola like a few people have suggested, too. I'm sure the Count would love to have us hanging around after we singlehandedly save his revolution. Hell, training the Angolans would give our many, many surplus pilots something to do instead of waiting Edit: Zaodai posted:For those suggesting that our ground forces just take out the radar stations for us, keep in mind that this isn't the remote mountains of Tibet. There are going to be actual forces in the area and probably some heavily armed locals to boot. Our ground forces have no armor, basic assault rifles, and two mags of ammo a piece. We have no comms equipment, no recon equipment, 12 men, and a stolen Geo Metro as our dedicated transport. Delta Force we are not. Plus we don't even get paid for the jobs we do for you guys. you made hundreds of millions of dollars off the strike we assisted in, and our payment was "whatever we could steal from the radar station before reinforcements show up*. That's where we got our Metro! We also got $10k from the Chinese for ransoming an officer. Well, if you're done with the stick-beatings, you could always tag along with the Count's ground-pounders. If we play our cards right and start rolling in the Lithium, you'll be able to probably piggyback on their getting new toys too. Plus stealing from the vanquished foe is in the finest mercenary traditions. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Apr 18, 2017 23:02
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Yvonmukluk posted:Hell, training the Angolans would give our many, many surplus pilots something to do instead of waiting Or they could embed with either local or our troops for Forward Observer duty to call CAS or other strike missions.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Hell, training the Angolans would give our many, many surplus pilots something to do instead of waiting Or we could just come and steal some planes from you guys and sell them on the black market. You'd never see it coming and it would sell for significantly more than the trash we loot. We just found out what our captured comms techs are using as our Base communications. A single PC running Windows 98. 
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Zaodai posted:For those suggesting that our ground forces just take out the radar stations for us, keep in mind that this isn't the remote mountains of Tibet. There are going to be actual forces in the area and probably some heavily armed locals to boot. Our ground forces have no armor, basic assault rifles, and two mags of ammo a piece. We have no comms equipment, no recon equipment, 12 men, and a stolen Geo Metro as our dedicated transport. Delta Force we are not. Plus we don't even get paid for the jobs we do for you guys. you made hundreds of millions of dollars off the strike we assisted in, and our payment was "whatever we could steal from the radar station before reinforcements show up*. That's where we got our Metro! We also got $10k from the Chinese for ransoming an officer. Yeah we haven't even finished crippling each other with 2x4's to determine who the top Boss Nob is.
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Coffeehitler posted:Or they could embed with either local or our troops for Forward Observer duty to call CAS or other strike missions. This is also true. We really need to get coordinated with the local forces ASAP. I mean, we can definitely do a lot, but they're going to be the ones taking and holding the ground. I like the suggestion that i think Barracuda put forward of setting up an Observer Corps of dudes with binos and satellite phones to help cover the gaps in our radar net. I think we want to try and keep a close eye on how things develop on the Free State front if we can. If either of us get too successful too quickly, the Dictator might be willing to reach a compromise with them (which, after all, is what the Free State wants) so he can then turn around and smash us in a Luderndorff offensive-type attack. We want that fight to be as long and drawn out as possible. Not sure if we'd have any realy option to somehow effect that front, but we need to keep that in mind.
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Coffeehitler posted:Yeesh, those airfields look kind of sparse. That said, Combat Aircraft at Lubango, Support (AWACS/Tankers/C-130s) at Ngjiva Pereira. This gives us good coverage and keeps the big slow stuff safe in the rear. The issue with doing this is we'd have to split our already mediocre air defense assets in half to cover two airbases (see my previous ramblings on why relying on intercepts isn't a great idea).
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Apr 18, 2017 23:18
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Grand Theft Angola
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Apr 18, 2017 23:24
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There is something hilarious about how our air force's pocket change could buy the ground guys everything they ever wanted if they could just have a few crumbs of it.
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Apr 18, 2017 23:23
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Yvonmukluk posted:That's probably going to boost our Threat Level quite a bit, though. Sounds like a job for the Radar wasn't mentioned as specific things that would really boost threat so hopefully its not too bad. Plus this sort of strike is exactly what Tornadoes are built for.
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power crystals posted:The issue with doing this is we'd have to split our already mediocre air defense assets in half to cover two airbases (see my previous ramblings on why relying on intercepts isn't a great idea). The other problem is that we only get a choice of one airfield.
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Apr 18, 2017 23:32
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Saros posted:Radar wasn't mentioned as specific things that would really boost threat so hopefully its not too bad. Plus this sort of strike is exactly what Tornadoes are built for. Yeah, but come on. If the merc air force your opponent hired started blowing up your radar stations, you'd not just sit on your rear end and let them do it. I mean, it's almost 100% the right call, but we need to be aware it's going to provoke a response. Hope for the best, and prepare for the worst.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think we want to try and keep a close eye on how things develop on the Free State front if we can. If either of us get too successful too quickly, the Dictator might be willing to reach a compromise with them (which, after all, is what the Free State wants) so he can then turn around and smash us in a Luderndorff offensive-type attack. We want that fight to be as long and drawn out as possible. Not sure if we'd have any realy option to somehow effect that front, but we need to keep that in mind. While a good point, we also have to keep in mind what Yooper said about internal stability - if we dilly-dally then the good Count's forces could implode. We need to act with speed without falling victim to haste.
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Clearly our opening move is to find out where El Presidente is and air drop our completely unprepared and no jump training troops in to try and capture or kill him before he knows we're there. What could go wrong?
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Western Angola is the only part that matters.  I don't think it's a great idea to try and defend more than one airfield, so I vote we put everything in Lubago.
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Apr 18, 2017 23:37
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Zaodai posted:Clearly our opening move is to find out where El Presidente is and air drop our completely unprepared and no jump training troops in to try and capture or kill him before he knows we're there. That sounds dangerously logical (if a very wonky kind of logical). Rather, after finding El Presidente all of our mercs should pile into their Geo Metro (somehow) and perform the world's most inept drive by shooting. More guns means more chances to hit, and more bodies means more chances at least one of them will make it back alive! 
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The best part is, a bunch of heavily armed guys driving around in a lovely car from the mid 90s wouldn't be out of place in Angola.
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Soup Inspector posted:While a good point, we also have to keep in mind what Yooper said about internal stability - if we dilly-dally then the good Count's forces could implode. We need to act with speed without falling victim to haste. True, true. But we need to keep an eye on that front. I wonder if there might be any way to arrange an invasion attack on that exclave? I mean, its not like the redditors or whoever would be able to easily reinforce it, and it'd be nice to have the extra airfield. Then again, it's not really any military value unless we wanted to loop around and start hitting from the North, which would be more trouble than it's worth. And logistics would be a nightmare. It's a pipe dream, really.
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Voting Lubango, and we should split our opening missions between taking out the two radar installations to the north and supporting friendly ground forces.
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Apr 18, 2017 23:50
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I'm gonna throw my weight behind Lubango.
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chitoryu12 posted:I'm gonna throw my weight behind Lubango.
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Let's Dance with the Angels from Lubango
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I'm also liking Lubango. It looks like it has the most ramp space, and it's close to the front. Also maybe that full-length taxiway might be usable by our Gripens - after all, they were built to take off garbage runways and roads after the Soviets knocked out the main Swedish airbases.
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  The quality of this LP is great. Bravo Yooper!
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