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I'm voting for Menongue and here's my reasoning why: A major facet of this campaign is going to be the capture of Lithium sites; each one we get is going to weaken the Dictator (and deny Reddit). While Lubango has solid resources around it (and some REALLY nice Radar coverage) the closest Lithium sites are in double coverage from enemy radar. We cross that border we're getting spotted and raising our threat level. On the Menongue side, we've got 3 closely packed Lithium sites, all covered by 1 Radar. It's still risky, but we're looking at a much easier EW front, plus a much more forgiving Risk:Reward situation. Additionally the lower population possibly means the area is less "important" and the one airbase in that clump of Lithium could have less "high end" forces stationed there.
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I just wanna take a moment and thank Yooper on being an awesome GM for an amazing LP and spending his money to make things more enjoyable for everyone, I would love a way to pay you back yooper
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Apr 19, 2017 00:22
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See, sticking our SK60s/Hawks/Frogfoots in Menongue to support ops out that a-ways could help distract the Dictator's forces while the main thrust is along the coast. If we can easily move aircraft around, we could have a pair of Gripens and Typhoons in Menongue to suppress the radars in the East while the CAS birds assist in an offensive to seize the mines, and move the fast movers back West to Lubango after they're not needed as much in the East.
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Apr 19, 2017 00:27
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Renaissance Spam posted:I'm voting for Menongue and here's my reasoning why: Sound reasoning. Menongue
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Apr 19, 2017 00:28
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Counterpoint: there won't be two radars there for long
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Apr 19, 2017 00:43
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Tetraptous posted:Western Angola is the only part that matters. I'm convinced! Lubango, no split. If we split we run the very real risk of getting, I dunno, Camp Bastioned with a strung out defensive line.
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Apr 19, 2017 00:58
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I support Menongue for resource access reasons. We should stick to one base too, our base defense will work best concentrated
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Apr 19, 2017 01:15
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Lubago, no split Can we buy our infantry a Ratel IFV? Googling suggests it costs 250k, which we dont care about, and would let them be hella awesome in their campaign. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratel_IFV http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1128.html Could even get two, we dont care about fractional millions. Id like to get them some body armor, another LMG, maybe some M203s if we could too. https://www.stripes.com/news/shipment-of-body-armor-vests-on-its-way-to-kuwait-iraq-bound-troops-1.15344 body armor costs 1.5k ea, which lol. M60 is around 6k, and 4 M203s would be around 5k. Loel fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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Apr 19, 2017 01:18
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Loel posted:Lubago, no split I agree with this but let's also give them an extra 525k so they can buy an M4A3(76)W sherman tank and a T-34-76B
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Apr 19, 2017 01:25
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Tythas posted:I agree with this but let's also give them an extra 525k so they can buy an M4A3(76)W sherman tank and a T-34-76B We'll need more crew members, I think we have like 12 people on the ground. Having a mechanized platoon would double or triple that. (As an aside, someday I would love to get some rocket artillery for my inner russian  )
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Apr 19, 2017 01:29
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Loel posted:We'll need more crew members, I think we have like 12 people on the ground. Having a mechanized platoon would double or triple that. there are plenty of people in the reserves pool that can crew it
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Apr 19, 2017 01:31
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Hell no, we gave them a million bucks and they spent it on Florida Man. They'd probably immediately sell it and use it to instead buy a series of replacement hatchbacks. Also, Lubago.
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Apr 19, 2017 01:33
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power crystals posted:Hell no, we gave them a million bucks and they spent it on Florida Man. They'd probably immediately sell it and use it to instead buy a series of replacement hatchbacks. Florida Man only cost 75k, they are spending the rest on base improvements. Clearly, they are responsible infantry 
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Apr 19, 2017 01:36
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Honestly, if they want to fit out a bunch of Hi-Luxes I'd be fine with that.
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Apr 19, 2017 01:37
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Coffeehitler posted:Honestly, if they want to fit out a bunch of Hi-Luxes I'd be fine with that. Im picturing something like: Phoenix Command, 2 Rafels, 2 tanks Offmap Arty: 2 BM-30s Indigenous support: 12 Hiluxes with up armor, mortar and MG mounts 
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Apr 19, 2017 01:39
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power crystals posted:Hell no, we gave them a million bucks and they spent it on Florida Man. They'd probably immediately sell it and use it to instead buy a series of replacement hatchbacks. There is also a 17 Pounder British anti tank gun from WW2 we really need to buy. Give us money.
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Apr 19, 2017 01:39
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Loel posted:Florida Man only cost 75k, they are spending the rest on base improvements. Clearly, they are responsible infantry My point of contention is not that they spent $75k on Florida Man, but that Florida Man is now $75k richer  .
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Apr 19, 2017 01:40
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power crystals posted:My point of contention is not that they spent $75k on Florida Man, but that Florida Man is now $75k richer He cleared the radar allowing us a win that got us 500,000,000 dollarydoos
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Apr 19, 2017 01:42
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Loel posted:We'll need more crew members, I think we have like 12 people on the ground. Having a mechanized platoon would double or triple that. Come now, we can't trust that weird outfit with all that cash. Let's drop them 300k so they can pick up some nice support weapons and be done with it. I don't think we can make Phi field many more than the 12ish soldiers per mission that are active right now because that Phoenix command rule set is a goddam nightmare with lots of soldiers on the field.
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Apr 19, 2017 01:45
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Cathode Raymond posted:Come now, we can't trust that weird outfit with all that cash. Let's drop them 300k so they can pick up some nice support weapons and be done with it. Oh yeah, totally. Mechanically, it would be something like 'you guys have artillery support, press 1 to blow up the tank.' I just want to give them that option
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Apr 19, 2017 01:45
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Loel posted:He cleared the radar allowing us a win that got us 500,000,000 dollarydoos A compelling argument, but a man's gotta have principles! Which is why according to last time I looked at the roster I'm now cowering in the nice air-conditioned trailer while you guys have to go get shot at. It would be interesting to, say, let them call in SK60 strikes since we barely have any idea what to do with those. Just tell Phi he has to wait the correct number of impulses until the thing actually gets there 
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Apr 19, 2017 01:49
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My procurement recommendation for this turn includes spending $15,000 (a princely sum, for us!) on a long range backpack radio so we can communicate with you chair force chaps. I suspect our first air strike will kill fully half our unit with friendly fire.
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Apr 19, 2017 01:51
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Don't trust Phi. What kind of monster only adds semi automatic MAC-10s?
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Apr 19, 2017 01:52
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Yooper posted:
Lubango is the only airport which can protect our Capital: Namibe. Every other location puts us on the opposite side of our capital compared to an enemy airbase, which means we risk not getting up in time to intercept a strike. Here's a 450nm circle around Lubango; the unrefueled combat radius of our shortest leg striker (F4E with 2 GBU-24s). With tanking it's enough to hit anything in the country. If we need to strike some mine defenses in the East we can tank up and do that based from Lubango. Basing at Menoque only shortens our strike time. If we need to defend our capital we can only do that effectively from Lubango. Keep all of our planes at Lubango for now. Also, give our ground pounders all they need. It's peanuts to us anyway and it'll make a real difference to them swinging some bonus events our way. 
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Apr 19, 2017 01:53
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I also agree to a check for a million or two for the infantry.
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Apr 19, 2017 01:55
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Zaodai posted:My procurement recommendation for this turn includes spending $15,000 (a princely sum, for us!) on a long range backpack radio so we can communicate with you chair force chaps. I suspect our first air strike will kill fully half our unit with friendly fire. I'm still holding out for you guys to buy that flamethrower entirely because I want to see what kind of nightmare rules that thing involves.
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Apr 19, 2017 01:58
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power crystals posted:I'm still holding out for you guys to buy that flamethrower entirely because I want to see what kind of nightmare rules that thing involves. ... Can we buy them an immolator? http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Immolator
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Apr 19, 2017 02:00
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Davin Valkri posted:I also agree to a check for a million or two for the infantry. I think we should earmark it with some useful and some useless stuff instead of just giving them a million. Make them buy the 3 EOD suits, all the ppsh's, the QF 17 Pounder, all the flammable poo poo, etc. etc. maybe also buy them a comms center, some radios, and a mortar.
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Apr 19, 2017 02:03
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Cathode Raymond posted:I think we should earmark it with some useful and some useless stuff instead of just giving them a million. Excuse me? We are responsible adults capable of making intelligent choices that will only further the Hired Goons cause! *Buys a T-34*
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Apr 19, 2017 02:05
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Popete posted:Excuse me? We are responsible adults capable of making intelligent choices that will only further the Hired Goons cause! *Gets hit with a 2x4 to decide who will drive it* Very responsible decisions.
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Apr 19, 2017 02:06
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We should buy them an Iowa Class Battleship
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Apr 19, 2017 02:14
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Tythas posted:We should buy them an Iowa Class Battleship "100 million per ship." Hmmm....
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Apr 19, 2017 02:17
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Loel posted:"100 million per ship." it also gives us the bonus of funding pirates no one wants to gently caress with
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Apr 19, 2017 02:21
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Loel posted:"100 million per ship." That's in 1942 dollars. An Iowa would be over 1.55 billion in 2017 dollars, god knows how much in 203x dollars
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Apr 19, 2017 02:20
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Phi230 posted:That's in 1942 dollars. An Iowa would be over 1.55 billion in 2017 dollars, god knows how much in 203x dollars Its good to have goals  edit: Proposal. Do we want to allocate 1% of each mission payoff to the grunts?
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Apr 19, 2017 02:25
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While I appreciate your generosity you noble airgoons such an influx of money would break intended balance of the LP and make it less fun*tm
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Apr 19, 2017 02:29
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In that case Yooper, can we allocate assets to units not run by the Phoenix system (NPCs?) so we can knock out multiple radars?
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Apr 19, 2017 02:30
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Loel posted:Proposal. Do we want to allocate 1% of each mission payoff to the grunts? I say yes but when they hit three missions of their own we cut them off
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Apr 19, 2017 02:30
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Merc Chat Ultimately it's up to Phi as to whether or not we can float more money at the ground component. How they spend it is up to them. Judging from the decision to hold a thunderdome, they'll spend it... interestingly. Tythas posted:I just wanna take a moment and thank Yooper on being an awesome GM for an amazing LP and spending his money to make things more enjoyable for everyone, I would love a way to pay you back yooper No worries mate! The last time I went on a good drunk I spent more in one night than I've spent on oddball voice actors on Fiverr. I get a hell of a lot more entertainment out of this too. Edit : Saw Phi's reply. We roll with his call. You'll have an opportunity to pick one of three truly professional Operatives. Our last one was an exceptional lobbyist.
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My comments about the poverty of our gloroius ground troops were mostly in-character as a jest, if still strictly accurate. We're supposed to be an impovershed band of chucklefucks. It wouldn't be any fun if we could immediately buy everything Bogdan had in stock and all the base upgrades, just like you guys wouldn't have any fun if you could buy all the top of the line fighters you want. Window shopping gives you something to aspire to. Do keep it in mind though when planning whether or not we can totally take out that NORAD base at Cheyenne mountain with our 12 guys in an economy car. You can pay us in respect for the blood we've shed to keep you from getting exploded. 
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