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Tired Moritz posted:Ugh, I guess so. I suppose the best solution is let Moat live for one day and see if they can actually kill a scum. The vt turned doc should protect him, no? here I present tm forgetting that he is a doctor
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:I am a weak something too. who did you visit yesterday? :O
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this is a stickup posted:here I present tm forgetting that he is a doctor Yeah like I want to waste my doc on someone I believe is scum.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:11
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Ernie. posted:who did you visit yesterday? :O Moat obviously lol
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Apr 28, 2017 02:11
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we theoretically have three cops a night. me, whomever 100yrs empowers and now tobbs. let's co-ordinate?
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Apr 28, 2017 02:11
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Tired Moritz posted:Ugh, I guess so. I suppose the best solution is let Moat live for one day and see if they can actually kill a scum. The vt turned doc should protect him, no? ? why
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Apr 28, 2017 02:12
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Moat obviously lol lmao, this game just got AMAZING
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Apr 28, 2017 02:12
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So my role is weak [something] and I don't get full results of my action. My role PM didn't say I'd die if I targeted scum, but is that implied by the weak prefix? If it is, then Moat is 100% town.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:13
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there's a like 80% chance the entire scum team are juggernaut godfathers right
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:So my role is weak [something] and I don't get full results of my action. My role PM didn't say I'd die if I targeted scum, but is that implied by the weak prefix? yes, moat is 100% town. as is keane. as is 100Yrs very likely. in fact, I'm going to assume that 100Yrs is probably some version of the queen.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:15
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Night mafia in an Ecco game this is stupid judge people on their actual posting instead of trying to game a mod known to fuckingg lie to players
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Apr 28, 2017 02:17
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Do we have any reasoning to believe Tobbs? It's a bit of a jump to say Moat's 100% town.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:16
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this is a stickup posted:I thought about this but a scum brutal cop is so bizarre I'd prefer to think he's just lying about it through his teeth But if 100Yrs turns a random vanilla into something else, even if it's just for a night, then it's possible that a scum team could have a goon that would be eligible for upgrades.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:18
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TMMadman posted:I'm kind of torn here. I volunteered earlier. That still stands. Ernie. posted:we theoretically have three cops a night. I don't empower as far as I know. Considering both the doc and the cop ignored, I don't think I grant them powers. But sure, who do you want to cop?
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Tired Moritz posted:Do we have any reasoning to believe Tobbs? It's a bit of a jump to say Moat's 100% town. tobbs's role works exactly the same way mine does. i also get incomplete information with my role.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:17
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Tired Moritz posted:Do we have any reasoning to believe Tobbs? It's a bit of a jump to say Moat's 100% town. just generally scum wouldn't go out of their way to clear other scum on day 2
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Apr 28, 2017 02:17
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Ernie. posted:yes, moat is 100% town. as is keane. as is 100Yrs very likely. in fact, I'm going to assume that 100Yrs is probably some version of the queen. I am not.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:18
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Ernie. posted:yes, moat is 100% town. as is keane. as is 100Yrs very likely. in fact, I'm going to assume that 100Yrs is probably some version of the queen. Well I'm super glad that he wasn't scum because I forgot weak meant you die when you target scum. So we're just cops that die if they target scum?
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Apr 28, 2017 02:17
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Ernie. posted:tobbs's role works exactly the same way mine does. i also get incomplete information with my role. Yeah but we got no proof that tobbs is saying the truth. Yeah, scums probably won't be propping their bro so early but still
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Apr 28, 2017 02:19
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100YrsofAttitude posted:I volunteered earlier. That still stands. well i don't know if we want to do lurkers or effort posters. i feel like i should just visit wins tonight. Tobbs Gnawed posted:Well I'm super glad that he wasn't scum because I forgot weak meant you die when you target scum. yeah. and since i know what my 'something' is, i'm kind of assuming what your 'something' is. and i think we need to combine our somethings to make sure there's no redirector or bus-driver that can kill us.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:20
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Tired Moritz posted:Yeah but we got no proof that tobbs is saying the truth. 
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Apr 28, 2017 02:20
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Weak may not mean killed by scum here. I've seen Weak also used just to limit information. For example, a Weak Tracker would only know if someone left at night and not where their target went or a Weak Watcher would know how many people visited their target, but not who visited.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:20
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Tired Moritz posted:Yeah but we got no proof that tobbs is saying the truth. trust me, tobbs is saying the truth. the other elaborate explanation is that: Moat, myself, and tobbs are all lying. To prove CCKeane is town. While he'd like that, we're not humongous clowns.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:21
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TMMadman posted:Weak may not mean killed by scum here. I've seen Weak also used just to limit information. Although, I can't see Weak Cops being used that way, so that usually is a role that gets killed if it visits scum.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:21
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what if this is one of those games that just breaks with a mass claim, because we're already 25% there.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:22
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Ahhh I get you. I really don't think it hurts to claim. I'm a weak tracker, and you're a weak watcher. I saw Moat leave his house, and you saw someone unknown visit Keane.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:22
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TMMadman posted:Weak may not mean killed by scum here. I've seen Weak also used just to limit information. i am going to be super furious if this is actually how my role works 
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Apr 28, 2017 02:23
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What's so ironicat about that? Yeah, I reveal my role quickly this game. What's stopping the scum from making a claim early in game too? Maybe Moat has a super duper good role, or maybe they're just loving around.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:23
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Even if weak doesn't mean we die if we target scum, Moat's story checks out.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:23
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You know if I don't say who I suggest to cop Moat will be forced to guess. That'd be enough to prove he's what he says he is for those in doubt. You know who is missing? Quandary. And I think most of us are good with that vote and have no conflicting reason to not vote them. What do you say?
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Apr 28, 2017 02:24
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Sure is a good idea in a game with 2 kills a night to claim power roles at each other for no loving reason.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:25
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Tired Moritz posted:What's so ironicat about that? Yeah, I reveal my role quickly this game. What's stopping the scum from making a claim early in game too? Maybe Moat has a super duper good role, or maybe they're just loving around. we have even less reason to believe you than any of ernie, moat, 100yrs, or tobbs
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Kashuno posted:Sure is a good idea in a game with 2 kills a night to claim power roles at each other for no loving reason. well we have 12 doctors it's fine
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Apr 28, 2017 02:25
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Ernie. posted:trust me, tobbs is saying the truth. the other elaborate explanation is that: Moat, myself, and tobbs are all lying. To prove CCKeane is town. Okay, I dig it. I will retract my push. At thia point, I just want to kill a lurker.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:26
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Ahhh I get you. I really don't think it hurts to claim. exactly. i saw only one person visit keane. so our entire 'story' can be confirmed/unconfirmed if anyone says they visited keane that's not moat. i think i should watch you? if i die we know i was redirected. if you die, i can tell how many people visited you (theoretically just one - a bus driver or a nightkill). now that i lay this out loud, it's stupid. this is a stickup posted:we have even less reason to believe you than any of ernie, moat, 100yrs, or tobbs i haven't played with stickup a lot, but this just comes off as willfully obtuse ##unvote ##vote stickup
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Ernie. posted:i haven't played with stickup a lot, but this just comes off as willfully obtuse ##unvote go ahead and expand the thought there chief
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Apr 28, 2017 02:27
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Kashuno posted:Sure is a good idea in a game with 2 kills a night to claim power roles at each other for no loving reason. Well Moat was on the block. And I get almost zero information. It's only useful in wildly unlikely situations where Ernie and I check complementary targets. Though if weak DOES mean we die when we target scum (kind of works with Moat's brutal claim) we're not great NK targets because we will kill ourselves.
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Tired Moritz posted:Okay, I dig it. I will retract my push. Quandary fits your profile. Vote Quandary.
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this is a stickup posted:we have even less reason to believe you than any of ernie, moat, 100yrs, or tobbs Just because people don't believe me doesn't mean I'm scum. I'm expressing genuine scepticism, nothing wrong with that in mafia.
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Tired Moritz posted:Just because people don't believe me doesn't mean I'm scum. I'm expressing genuine scepticism, nothing wrong with that in mafia. literally all I'm saying is that their stories are corroborated by other players, while yours is not, and thus we have less proof in your case that you are telling the truth is that clearer?
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