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this is a stickup posted:go ahead and expand the thought there chief sure, not hard  there's no reason NOT to trust a claim on d2. scum don't play like this. and scum certainly don't all 'fake claim' just to protect one of their players. but why i think you're scum is you said 'we have even less reason to'. that's too many fluffy modifier words for your opinion. it's a post intended/designed to swing opinion, not make an argument. you and anyone may disagree, but i've been pretty successful over the years with the 'unnecessary modifiers = scum' rule in my head.
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Ernie. posted:sure, not hard it is a direct reply to tm saying there is no proof to trust tobbs when his claim has even less proof than tobbs' I even used the same fluffy modifier words for you. they imply that if there is no proof that tobbs is telling the truth (there is - you), there is less than no proof that tm is hope this helps!
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Well Moat was on the block. And I get almost zero information. It's only useful in wildly unlikely situations where Ernie and I check complementary targets. ehh not exactly. killing us creates a false positive investigation. ideally i'd be targeted by someone who allows me to see my full results tonight. that way i can see who visits you and you can 'cop' someone.
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100YrsofAttitude posted:You know if I don't say who I suggest to cop Moat will be forced to guess. That'd be enough to prove he's what he says he is for those in doubt. I'm wondering if the person who becomes a cop/doc changes at night. It feels like your power should either affect either someone who was already a cop/doc. If it does turn a vanilla into a doc/cop, then I'd think either they would have to be only for that night or you'd be limited to only being able to create one if the other ones had died. Otherwise, I think you'd have a game with like a shitload of cops/docs and that just seems like it would quickly become unbalanced.
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this is a stickup posted:literally all I'm saying is that their stories are corroborated by other players, while yours is not, and thus we have less proof in your case that you are telling the truth At the point where I was confused, they were just going "im weak. Me too!!!" Like come on. And a group of scum can collaborate with each other more easily so that's a moot point.
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this is a stickup posted:it is a direct reply to tm saying there is no proof to trust tobbs when his claim has even less proof than tobbs' i'm an idiot ##unvote i completely misread your post, i missed the 'you'
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Tired Moritz posted:At the point where I was confused, they were just going "im weak. Me too!!!" none of this is ever going to be moot in a game about determining ones sincerity based on their posts
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Tired Moritz posted:At the point where I was confused, they were just going "im weak. Me too!!!" .... scum wouldn't go all in on corroborating someone's story if it means that the entire scum team gets exposed once the janitor flips (or gets NKed by the second faction)
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Also guess what? I don't expect anyone to believe my claim. But that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to be sceptical to other players' claims.
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we still need like extra 8 votes to hammer get on it people
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Ernie. posted:ehh not exactly. killing us creates a false positive investigation. Yeah it didn't post my post but claiming our targets is bad for that reason. Best to try and visit people we think are town and get more confirmations (if weak means we die visiting scum, which isn't 100%). I guess I should PM Ecco?
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is it bad that i still want to vote wins? i know people like quandary more for scum, but wins just empty-voted keane and hasn't expressed opinions on anyone else. to me it comes off as confident play, not ... investigative play.
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Pinterest Mom posted:.... Yeah, I know. That's why I said I believe them. But in a different game, in a different day, a bunch of people collaborating with each other to inno each other doesn't mean that they're town. (Katamari mafia, feb 2016, somethingawful forums)
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Ernie. posted:is it bad that i still want to vote wins? i know people like quandary more for scum, but wins just empty-voted keane and hasn't expressed opinions on anyone else. to me it comes off as confident play, not ... investigative play. i'll vote either ##unvote
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Pinterest Mom posted:i'll vote either 
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Tired Moritz posted:Also guess what? I don't expect anyone to believe my claim. But that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to be sceptical to other players' claims. you're allowed to do whatever dumb poo poo you want, it'd true.
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Somberbrero posted:you're allowed to do whatever dumb poo poo you want, it'd true. Hell yeah hell yeah hell yeah (repeat 100×)
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Apr 28, 2017 02:41
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Town calls and an empty vote, I could see wins, would switch if necessary (though my phone is dying).
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the only reason i see not to vote glenda is that they MIGHT get modkilled but at this point that is true for a lot of people.
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Somberbrero posted:the only reason i see not to vote glenda is that they MIGHT get modkilled but at this point that is true for a lot of people. they asked for a replacement, it'll get here. ##vote wins
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Apr 28, 2017 02:43
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Fine for wins. it's even less to go on than if quandary dies, but it's not a bad vote. Just say where and we can lay these down and move on with our lives.
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Look I'm about to log off quandary or wins someone tell me which ##invote for the record I'm pretty sure most is scum but gently caress another day of this no info idiot jerk session
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Apr 28, 2017 02:49
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##unvote
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Apr 28, 2017 02:50
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I think ##vote Quandary is the better vote. I'd vote wins to avoid the no lynch, but it'd just be a lurker lynch for me.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:49
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##unvote ##vote Quan
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yeah I'm good with quandary ##unvote ##vote quandary
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Apr 28, 2017 02:50
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##vote quandary
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Works for me ##vote Quandary
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Apr 28, 2017 02:52
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##vote quandary i feel this way less than i should to place a vote, but it's getting late enough tonight that i want to be done with this day
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Apr 28, 2017 02:52
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Hey Ernie you need to unvote. Also looking at votefinder... is tired voting themselves?
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ah sorry ##unvote ##vote quandary
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Apr 28, 2017 02:58
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Wtf? ##unvote ##voteQuandary
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I think we're at -3? Votefinder still has 24 alive but I think we have 22.
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:I think we're at -3? Votefinder still has 24 alive but I think we have 22. -2
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why are people mass claiming, what the hell
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Apr 28, 2017 03:01
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I hate phone posting. ##unvote ##vote Quandary
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Apr 28, 2017 03:00
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Tired Moritz posted:Wtf? Need a space in your vote. And it looks like at some point you voted for Quan and someone attached name to you.
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That puts us roughly at -5. I figure the people voting Moritz can shift. As should the two voting Glenda and Keane. Between those it should be doable. Keane Max Spoonsy, if you guys are around you can do something at least to get us closer to sleep.
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We're doing this? ##vote quandary
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Now it's -2.
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