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 NASCAR HAS ENDED CARL LONG'S SUSPENSION FROM CUP After eight loving years he's gonna race this weekend!
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May 10, 2017 01:06
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Peanut President posted:
Our long Grand National nightmare is over.
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May 10, 2017 01:18
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Please use the same engine from eight years ago.
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May 10, 2017 01:52
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https://twitter.com/sportsemmys/status/862089855903428610
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May 10, 2017 01:52
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Long Live Souvenir Haulers: https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/862108182885408768 quote:While track operating company International Speedway Corp. said sales per capita were up 6 percent in 2016 using the superstore model, Fanatics Retail President Ross Tannenbaum said the tent sat empty during the races and the company needed to create a model that increased sales inside the gates. It sounds like this is something NASCAR/Fanatics based off the NFL/NBA/NHL/MLB/CFB/MLS...except there aren't TV timeouts/intermissions/isn't halftime.  It's like Daytona Rising featuring social areas they seemed to fully intend on people using during the race as opposed to actually watching the race. Peanut President posted:
I sure hope that learned him about using used engines in the undercard race for The Winston. That'll teach him to mess with our car. 
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May 10, 2017 02:09
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Aw I like the tents
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May 10, 2017 02:50
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kidcoelacanth posted:Aw I like the tents Functionally, the tents are better because you can at least handle items without having someone 5 feet above you having to pass them down after waiting in line. I snagged a cool Gordon hat on clearance at Daytona last July I might have missed in the trailer. In the end, they apparently have neither the sentimental value nor flash of the haulers. I don't know what the hell they expected in terms of people going outside the gates during the race to buy merch, though. Maybe that comes from 20 years of conditioning myself to buy it before the race starts if I really want it.
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May 10, 2017 03:21
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It's nice Nascar doesn't even realize what fans do during a race. Like you get to the track a few hours early and bullshit around outside.
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May 10, 2017 03:27
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dentist toy box posted:It's nice Nascar doesn't even realize what fans do during a race. Well they're certainly not sitting in the stands.
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May 10, 2017 03:39
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Quantrill posted:Please use the same engine from eight years ago. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if you can't replace an engine block that worn out perhaps you have no business in top level auto racing it's like saying a sports team is so broke they can't afford cleats so they play barefoot
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May 10, 2017 16:16
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Don't race it if you can't afford to replace it?
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May 10, 2017 16:19
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dentist toy box posted:It's nice Nascar doesn't even realize what fans do during a race. Like you get to the track a few hours early and bullshit around outside. I was surprised, and yet not at all, by the attempted "people are going to go outside and buy things during the race" business strategy. You could cut Fanatics a little bit of slack seeing as they're still relatively new to NASCAR, but there was a template in place they had to have observed from ISC/Americrown/Action Performance when they knew they were taking over which they could've tried to improve (and sort of did). Like I posted before, I don't get the notion that people are going to go do social things or mill around during a race if you're there unless they're assuming the live, at-track experience even involves "watch part of the race, come back for the finish" these days, at which point the question becomes "Why did you drop $100+ for a ticket?". Slickdrac posted:Well they're certainly not sitting in the stands. 
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May 10, 2017 18:58
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Norns posted:Don't race it if you can't afford to replace it? that's the going thought I mean, I like plucky upstarts as much as the next guy but I'm also not gonna feel bad for a dude with his pockets turned out and a sad face standing next to a quarter million dollars worth of race car and hauler
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May 10, 2017 20:12
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Peanut President posted:
They must be worried about car counts.
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May 10, 2017 20:28
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VikingSkull posted:I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if you can't replace an engine block that worn out perhaps you have no business in top level auto racing The thing with Long was he was running a busted engine and got a 250 thousand dollar fine, but when Ray Evernham ran a car that got the entire rule book changed he got a pat on the back and a "don't run this car again" memo.
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May 11, 2017 02:20
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Also since when is NASCAR a top level racing series?
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May 11, 2017 02:21
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Peanut President posted:Also since when is NASCAR a top level racing series? Hoo hah! 
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May 11, 2017 07:53
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Peanut President posted:The thing with Long was he was running a busted engine and got a 250 thousand dollar fine, but when Ray Evernham ran a car that got the entire rule book changed he got a pat on the back and a "don't run this car again" memo. I mean I'm probably the biggest Smokey Yunick fan in this thread so whipping out the ole "well what about that rules loophole car that cost a bajillion dollars?" line might not be the strategy to go with. There are three things in racing that you absolutely do not gently caress with, and that's the engine, tires and fuel. If found loving with those rules, intentionally or not, the wrath of god will come down on you. That's not a NASCAR exclusive and it's as old as racing itself.
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May 11, 2017 19:20
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here's another law of racing: if you're a star, the wrath of god will not come down on you. if you aren't a star, it will.
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May 11, 2017 19:24
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VikingSkull posted:I mean I'm probably the biggest Smokey Yunick fan in this thread so whipping out the ole "well what about that rules loophole car that cost a bajillion dollars?" line might not be the strategy to go with. That's the reason why for LeMons and Chump Car they specifically exclude tires, wheels, brakes, and the fuel system from the 500 dollar limits. The engine is not, but that's also part of the appeal of those series.
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May 11, 2017 19:30
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Carl Long's penalty looks that much more absurd when you look at his whole weekend back in May 2009. He blew his first engine on a mock qualifying run. Rain washed out qualifying, and when the field was set by qualifying draw, Long drew outside-pole (next to Kirk Shelmerdine!). Only then did the "illegal" motor go in, a motor prepared by Evernham's Dodge team. The engine change sent Long to the rear, where he caved in the nose after 4 laps and blew this second engine in a plume of smoke. So, to review, Long was penalized for an engine he didn't build which was the second one he blew in two days, leaving him last in a qualifier for a non-points race. EDIT: And that's not even touching the fact he was an owner-driver running a paint scheme paying homage to one of his first cars. Running that scheme again this Saturday is a 
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May 11, 2017 21:01
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To be clear, it's not the idea that NASCAR wouldn't penalize anyone for a engine block that's out of spec, it's the idea that if by some mistake at the shop, bad CNC, outright cheating, or whatever, Joey Logano rode in qualifying with an engine that was 5cc too large, NASCAR would also supend him for like a decade as they did Carl Long. I'm almost positive sponsors would flip the gently caress out.
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May 11, 2017 21:05
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VikingSkull posted:I mean I'm probably the biggest Smokey Yunick fan in this thread so whipping out the ole "well what about that rules loophole car that cost a bajillion dollars?" line might not be the strategy to go with. This explains like zero penalties NASCAR has handed out for technical infractions.
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May 11, 2017 21:39
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I violated the rules of NASCAR and will never have a child named Rusty.
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May 12, 2017 01:19
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VikingSkull posted:I mean I'm probably the biggest Smokey Yunick fan in this thread so whipping out the ole "well what about that rules loophole car that cost a bajillion dollars?" line might not be the strategy to go with. Yeah good one. Show me where Michael Waltrip was banned for a decade when he ran fuel additives, or when DW got a quarter million fine when he hosed with the fuel tank 2 or 3 times.
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May 12, 2017 05:02
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Carl Long wasn't banned, he was fined and couldn't afford to pay the fine reverting back to my first point, don't be a broke rear end and try and run Cup, it's really dumb also Michael got fined for the oxidizer and loving with a fuel tank is not the same as loving with the fuel
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May 12, 2017 06:05
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VikingSkull posted:Carl Long wasn't banned, he was fined and couldn't afford to pay the fine Oh so the rules matter except when they don't. Glad to see Brian France has an account.
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May 12, 2017 06:11
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Ohh I absolutely love when teams gently caress with the rules. Anyone got a link to a good writeup of DWs fuel tank fuckery?
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May 12, 2017 06:13
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Peanut President posted:Oh so the rules matter except when they don't. Glad to see Brian France has an account. you post about NASCAR on Facebook a lot, don't you
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May 12, 2017 19:59
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I moderate a large NASCAR group on Facebook and
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May 12, 2017 20:02
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VikingSkull posted:
oh you're the guy who came up with the charter system
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May 12, 2017 20:30
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Its a thread rule that one poster must be indoctrinated by NASCAR at a time. Now that KidC has broken the Brian France brain-grip it looks like its viking's turn.
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May 12, 2017 20:36
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Feels Villeneuve posted:oh you're the guy who came up with the charter system During the last season or two of Darrel Waltrip's racing career, I remember him being interviewed on pit road about recent changes to NASCAR. I don't recall what he was talking about specifically (COT probably) but I clearly remember him being asked about what he thought the next big future innovation in NASCAR ought to be. "Franchising." Selling guaranteed starting spots to teams/drivers/owners for the Cup series. So it's DW's fault.
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May 12, 2017 20:49
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NASCAR made Carl Long remove his sponsor logos from the car. https://twitter.com/jayski/status/863181826688417792
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May 13, 2017 01:13
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Elitist Bitch posted:NASCAR made Carl Long remove his sponsor logos from the car. *raucous booing*
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May 13, 2017 01:35
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probably a bad idea long-term to be turning down weed sponsorships...
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May 13, 2017 01:39
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Not if loving Jeff Sessions has his way!
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May 13, 2017 01:39
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Reminder that only injecting one marajuana is enough to make you jump in front of a sprint car.
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May 13, 2017 01:48
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dentist toy box posted:Reminder that only injecting one marajuana is enough to make you jump in front of a sprint car. Strong post avatar combo
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May 13, 2017 01:52
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Uncle Jam posted:Its a thread rule that one poster must be indoctrinated by NASCAR at a time. Now that KidC has broken the Brian France brain-grip it looks like its viking's turn. don't look at me I've barely watched a lap of racing all year
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May 13, 2017 02:05
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