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While my enthusiasm for BSG has cooled significantly over the years, I still can't think of a show that had the impact for season starting episodes/midseason episodes/finales. Even Lost at its best I feel only really had one (the season 3 finale) that was on the same level.
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I feel like BSG was a very solid episodic, character-driven drama up until the very end. Like, if you got mad that you didn't get the answers you wanted, I don't really care. Was it perfect? No. There were mistakes and accidents and all kinds of poo poo. But like, the important stuff got done.
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Jun 6, 2017 13:17
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Nate RFB posted:While my enthusiasm for BSG has cooled significantly over the years, I still can't think of a show that had the impact for season starting episodes/midseason episodes/finales. Even Lost at its best I feel only really had one (the season 3 finale) that was on the same level. Nikita and Fringe
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Jun 6, 2017 13:42
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Did anyone else watch Terra Nova? It was for the most part a bad show with bad acting, but at the end it got a little Lost-y and I kind of wanted to see where it would go in season 2, just because the possibilities seemed pretty cool.
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Jun 6, 2017 14:01
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swickles posted:Did anyone else watch Terra Nova? It was for the most part a bad show with bad acting, but at the end it got a little Lost-y and I kind of wanted to see where it would go in season 2, just because the possibilities seemed pretty cool. Terra Nova was a misunderstood masterpiece too good for this world. *Rides motorcycle between t-rex's legs*
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Jun 6, 2017 14:07
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IRQ posted:Terra Nova was a misunderstood masterpiece too good for this world. *Rides motorcycle between t-rex's legs* It made dinosaurs boring
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Jun 6, 2017 14:23
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Where's that gif that replaces the airduct dactyls with dicks? I never watched beyond the pilot of that shoe, but I followed the thread for a season because the gifs were gold...
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Jun 6, 2017 14:30
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Terra Nova's greatest problem was that the future depicted in the pilot was infinitely more interesting than the boring dino past/alternate dimension/whatever.
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Jun 6, 2017 15:07
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Wheat Loaf posted:Remember all those Lost copycats from the mid- to late-2000s that were predicated on having a mysterious mythology story arc but never got resolved because none of them lasted? Invasion, Surface, Persons Unknown. I liked all three of those too, especially Invasion.
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Jun 6, 2017 16:11
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Invasion, Surface, Persons Unknown. I liked all three of those too, especially Invasion. There was another one too, I can't quite remember it but it was the only one I like at all. I think it started with an E, but it wasn't the Event? It was the same season as Invasion. Now this is bugging me.
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Jun 6, 2017 16:23
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Surface and Invasion both started in the same season.
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Jun 6, 2017 16:32
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Looten Plunder posted:Similar question, has a murder mystery/"who is the bad guy?" show ever made the initial super obvious decoy bad guy the actual bad guy/killer? If so, has it been done effectively or does it just not work from storytelling/emotional payoff perspective? Scream. And it did it so effectively. Twin Peaks still has one of the most solid pilots of all time, if nothing much else. And the bad guy there is responsible for some of the most affecting poo poo on the show.
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Jun 6, 2017 16:34
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There was a show called The Nine about a group of people involved in and/or victims of a bank heist mystery.
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Jun 6, 2017 16:34
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try the new taco place posted:I thought I was the only person on earth that watched/enjoyed Harper's Island Nope, I loved it. I recently rewatched it on iTunes and it was still great. It has the best episode titles too.
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Jun 6, 2017 16:35
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IRQ posted:There was another one too, I can't quite remember it but it was the only one I like at all. I think it started with an E, but it wasn't the Event? It was the same season as Invasion. Now this is bugging me. Threshold? That was CBS' attempt at a serial genre series.
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JethroMcB posted:Threshold? That was CBS' attempt at a serial genre series. That was it!
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JethroMcB posted:Threshold? That was CBS' attempt at a serial genre series. It had a fantastic cast too.
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X-O posted:Nope, I loved it. I recently rewatched it on iTunes and it was still great. It has the best episode titles too. Harper's Island was cool and i want more one season horror shows
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MacheteZombie posted:i want more one season horror shows AHS is six of those
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less laughter posted:AHS is six of those yeah I've watched AHS. only half of it was any good
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Jun 6, 2017 16:58
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It's interesting, it seems like Lost really did start a pretty big wave of sci-fi serial drama. I remember when those three alien shows, Invasion, Surface, and Threshold, all came out at once, I was like a kid in a candy store. Some stuff I don't think has been mentioned yet, we also got a V reboot, which sucked, Revolution, about no more electricity, and everyone's favorite post-nuclear small-town drama, Jericho. There was also eventually Alcatraz which was supposed be JJ Abrams next big thing after Lost, but it apparently stunk.
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Jun 6, 2017 18:37
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I fell asleep watching random episodes of Elementary that I had missed and it's actually kind of shocking how much better of a show it is than Sherlock (and, again, I say that as a fan of Sherlock)
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Jun 6, 2017 18:41
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Jonny Lee Miller is a better actor and is also way more attractive than the other guy
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Jun 6, 2017 18:49
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I feel like even if I liked Sherlock, Elementary would come out on top by sheer virtue of how it gives Watson something to do. It's honestly kinda baffling how thoroughly Sherlock fucks that up.
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Jun 6, 2017 18:49
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-Blackadder- posted:There was also eventually Alcatraz which was supposed be JJ Abrams next big thing after Lost, but it apparently stunk. JJ Abrams has had a lot of those, I think Fringe was the only one that lasted more than one season. RIP Almost Human
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Jun 6, 2017 18:50
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Alcatraz was actually very good (mostly) and it's a real shame it didn't get a chance, just as things were getting interesting. I have no clue how Revolution got a second season but that show didn't.
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Jun 6, 2017 19:10
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Revolution had some potential that turned into a wet fart after the pilot.
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I enjoyed Revolution quite a bit.
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-Blackadder- posted:It's interesting, it seems like Lost really did start a pretty big wave of sci-fi serial drama. Lost and Desperate Housewives were the breakout hits of the 04-05 season, and for the next few years everybody was trying their hands at high-concept serialized mystery dramas and soaps (Including ABC, who weren't content to rest on those successes.) Then you had the shows that tried to split the difference, like The Nine, which created a mystery of "What happened to those nine ordinary people during that bank robbery" then stretched it out as long and as thin as possible, and Fox's Reunion, the soap/murder mystery where every episode took place one year after the previous. Iron Crowned posted:JJ Abrams has had a lot of those, I think Fringe was the only one that lasted more than one season. RIP Almost Human I think JJ Abrams will take a meeting with any production team with a sci-fi pitch in development, gleefully slap his name on it for profit participation, and then not really give a poo poo. His "brand" should be toxic by this point, at least as far as television is concerned. (Almost Human got really good as the season went on and I was pretty eager to see where the whole "John Laroquette turning evil and going over that mysterious wall" thing was going to go, but alas.)
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JethroMcB posted:Lost and Desperate Housewives were the breakout hits of the 04-05 season Grey's Anatomy too (colossal midseason hit).
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GreenNight posted:I enjoyed Revolution quite a bit. Yeah it picked up after awhile and got good, but man there was a real slump there with some stinker eps.
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Being diabetic after the apocalypse is hell
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Invasion, Surface, Persons Unknown. I liked all three of those too, especially Invasion. Man, gently caress Persons Unknown. Literally nothing about the setting made any kind of sense and before it started they made a big deal about it being a complete story with an ending and then the finale is all "welcome to the next level."
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-Blackadder- posted:I wonder has there ever been a "central mystery" show whose ending/reveal actually lived up to the hype? I feel like there must have been some, but I can't think of any off the top of my head. Obviously a lot of shows had great endings such as the aforementioned Breaking Bad and Justified, but they weren't really "central mystery" shows. The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. And they did it in one season, too!
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Davros1 posted:The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. And they did it in one season, too! I watched this show again a couple years ago, and the story arc episodes are mostly great, the filler episodes can be hit or miss though, especially the post arc episodes
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JethroMcB posted:Lost and Desperate Housewives were the breakout hits of the 04-05 season, and for the next few years everybody was trying their hands at high-concept serialized mystery dramas and soaps (Including ABC, who weren't content to rest on those successes.) It's interesting to read in Disney War how those shows came out and they were massive successes all over the world but Michael Eisner (who was on the way out anyway) hated them. Eisner also turned down Survivor because he ABC already had Who Wants to Be a Millionaire and he was convinced that it would be a number-one megahit forever.
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The Event had a great premise and solid pilot. That's about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqYX-qI9oxw precision posted:Alcatraz was actually very good (mostly) and it's a real shame it didn't get a chance, just as things were getting interesting. I have no clue how Revolution got a second season but that show didn't. Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:It's interesting to read in Disney War how those shows came out and they were massive successes all over the world but Michael Eisner (who was on the way out anyway) hated them. "Huh, what did Eisner do after Disney...?" In 2009, Eisner used his own money to produce a claymation show called Glenn Martin, DDS. Yep. Nothing could make more sense.
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Mu Zeta posted:Jonny Lee Miller is a better actor and is also way more attractive than the other guy I have been places that saying this would get you stabbed. But Elementary has Lucy Liu who I have been madly in love with since Ally McBeal so it wins no matter what.
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JethroMcB posted:"Huh, what did Eisner do after Disney...?" I believe he also had some hand in the production of Bojack Horseman. He's most recently been trying to buy a struggling English football team (Portsmouth, IIRC). Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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