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emotive
Dec 26, 2006

I can't believe how good the White Label Evan Williams bourbon is for the price. Usually buy their 1783, but this is definitely going to be my new go-to.

Meanwhile, what do you guys recommend for a good mid-priced "starter" rye?

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cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot
Rittenhouse.

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Gravy Boat 2k

cryme posted:

Rittenhouse.

:same:

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS





Yep

The Bandit
Aug 18, 2006

Westbound And Down

wormil posted:

Jim Beam Double Oaked was on sale so I picked up a bottle. I'm not a big fan of Beam products but it smells terrific. It's definitely Beam, heavy on the vanilla, very sweet. Will post more after spending some time with it.

Surprisingly decent. At full retail there are better options, but I wouldn't feel bad paying ~$25 for it

mekilljoydammit
Jan 28, 2016

Me have motors that scream to 10,000rpm. Me have more cars than Pick and Pull
So, I'm a gentleman for whom Russel's Reserve has become my standard sipping bourbon - and I tried a new liquor store and they had Russel's Reserve single barrel in stock. Oh my heavens. I mean, I know bang per buck I will probably keep drinking standard Russel's Reserve most often, but my goodness that's tasty.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Aw poo poo I finally found exactly one bottle of Blanton's for sale.

They used to have literally piles of it places. I don't think i've had any in like three years.

The Bandit
Aug 18, 2006

Westbound And Down
Should be getter easier to find. It's not on allocation(or limited ordering) any more, at least in Mass

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Verdict: worth the wait. Them blantons boys know they biniss.

I really hope it gets easy to find here again.

It used to be like 40-45 bucks though and now its 60, but it comes in a box and a fabric sack now.

The same shop had a bunch of bottles of Buffalo Trace for about 30 bucks. How's it compare to blantons? Should I get some in case I run out? I never bothered with it back in the day since they always had Blantons and it was less than 50 bucks.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

hakimashou posted:

Verdict: worth the wait. Them blantons boys know they biniss.

I really hope it gets easy to find here again.

It used to be like 40-45 bucks though and now its 60, but it comes in a box and a fabric sack now.

The same shop had a bunch of bottles of Buffalo Trace for about 30 bucks. How's it compare to blantons? Should I get some in case I run out? I never bothered with it back in the day since they always had Blantons and it was less than 50 bucks.

That's pretty steep for Buffalo Trace, it's ~$20-$24 here in California.

Definitely a solid standby pick for an archetypal bourbon, though it shouldn't really hold a flame to Blanton's.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
So I've been trying to get into Whisky lately. I've never really been that into it as I've only ever had cheap and burning and turned my nose up at the price for higher priced ones, and just preferred wine anyway. But I really want to give it a shot to appreciate it a bit more.

I was gifted a whisky tasting session with my brother lately which was really fun, at a local little whisky bar here in Melbourne, Australia and it was really informative. Great session, lots of info, etc.

I really wasn't a big fan of the punch you in the face ones with a huge flavour, and despite me generally liking smoked foods and other things I wasn't a fan of the more peaty irish drinks we sampled, but I didn't mind a local whisky called Starwood and also a Scottish one, Macallan, I didn't write which one but they mentioned that we specifically were having one that was aged in ex Sherry barrels which makes a lot of difference. We then sampled the sherry was well which wasn't bad.

Basically I think I went a bit for the smoother, more mild whiskys. Any Aussies/Melbournians know of any good leaping off points based on that info, or is that not enough? I don't mind spending a bit of money but I also don't want to drop $150AUD on a bottle to then drink and go "ugh"

Jo3sh
Oct 19, 2002

Like all girls I love unicorns!
Scotch whiskys come in several regional styles. If you don't care for the smoke and peat, don't feel bad - that's not a flavor everyone loves. But if you like The Macallan, you can look for other whiskys from the Speyside region. Glenfiddich, Glenfarclas, Balvenie, Cragganmore, Aberlour (one of my favorites is their A'Bunadh - definitely worth it if you liked the sherry character) and so on. They won't be the same, but they will be stylistically similar. You might also look into Highland whisky, which also tends to be very low on the peat/smoke flavor.

mekilljoydammit
Jan 28, 2016

Me have motors that scream to 10,000rpm. Me have more cars than Pick and Pull
There's always Irish whiskeys too, no? The various ones I've tasted have been even farther on the smooth side, but I'll leave it to others to recommend good ones.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
I am not prejudiced towards any region! All I know is that I hate Jim Beam or Jack Daniels when I've just had their stock standard bottles. And the super smoky/peaty character I wasn't a fan of. I'd be lying if I didn't want to find some Australian ones I liked as I'm from Melbourne but that's more of a silly bias than anything.

I might look for that A'Bunadh Aberlour bottle as my local looks like they have it in stock. I know this sounds ridiculous, but what is the best / commonly accepted way to drink your whisky? Like I know I'm not going to pour a huge tumbler full of it, I have a couple of small whisky glasses I got as a gift way back when. Just a bit of a pour for a few sips? If I feel like watering it down a bit just drop a single ice cube in? Or pour a tiny bit of water in?

You don't really drink it with a meal either do you? I've heard chocolate or cheese is good with it?

I know I'm overthinking it but just want to avoid being an idiot and like pouring out a glass, hating it as I'm eating it with a meal which messes with the flavour and giving myself no chance to enjoy it.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

teacup posted:

I am not prejudiced towards any region! All I know is that I hate Jim Beam or Jack Daniels when I've just had their stock standard bottles. And the super smoky/peaty character I wasn't a fan of. I'd be lying if I didn't want to find some Australian ones I liked as I'm from Melbourne but that's more of a silly bias than anything.

I might look for that A'Bunadh Aberlour bottle as my local looks like they have it in stock. I know this sounds ridiculous, but what is the best / commonly accepted way to drink your whisky? Like I know I'm not going to pour a huge tumbler full of it, I have a couple of small whisky glasses I got as a gift way back when. Just a bit of a pour for a few sips? If I feel like watering it down a bit just drop a single ice cube in? Or pour a tiny bit of water in?

You don't really drink it with a meal either do you? I've heard chocolate or cheese is good with it?

I know I'm overthinking it but just want to avoid being an idiot and like pouring out a glass, hating it as I'm eating it with a meal which messes with the flavour and giving myself no chance to enjoy it.



Aberlour Abunadh is really good, its also like 62% ABV and far smoother than it has any right to be, so be cognizant of that if you plan on drinking a bunch of it.

Another heavily sherried whisky that this thread turned me on to and I've enjoyed quite a bit is Glenfarclas 17 Year

As for how to drink whisky, I just pour a bit in a glass and sip it. A shot or so's worth over the course of an evening is a nice way to unwind without really having it go to your head.

Some almonds make a nice snack to go along with a lot of brown spirits in my opinion.

If you already own a home you can go hog wild and drink it out of an avocado or something though.

hakimashou fucked around with this message at 03:38 on May 28, 2017

JUST MAKING CHILI
Feb 14, 2008
Having a pitcher of good filtered water nearby is good too, so you can add a drop here and there to see if you can unlock different flavor profiles.

And drink in between drinks to keep from getting too wasted, especially for cask strength stuff.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Don't feel bad about hating Jim Beam and Jack Daniels either. They both give whiskey a bad name thanks to being the two biggest names and being below average even at their price range.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Don't feel bad about hating Jim Beam and Jack Daniels either. They both give whiskey a bad name thanks to being the two biggest names and being below average even at their price range.

Yeah, either one is only really good when splashed in some coke.

Then again I have a sweet tooth and love mixed drinks.

rohan
Mar 19, 2008

Look, if you had one shot
or one opportunity
To seize everything you ever wanted
in one moment
Would you capture it...
or just let it slip?


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teacup posted:

So I've been trying to get into Whisky lately. I've never really been that into it as I've only ever had cheap and burning and turned my nose up at the price for higher priced ones, and just preferred wine anyway. But I really want to give it a shot to appreciate it a bit more.

I was gifted a whisky tasting session with my brother lately which was really fun, at a local little whisky bar here in Melbourne, Australia and it was really informative. Great session, lots of info, etc.
Which whisky bar?

There's a new bar that's opened up on High St Northcote, Buck Mulligan's, which I'd recommend if it's at all convenient for you. They specialise in Irish whiskey but offer a range from Scotland, Japan, USA etc (and our own Starward, of course).

There's a whiskey list here. I've only been there a few times but the staff are helpful and seem to know what they're talking about. I'm also learning as I go so can't make any solid recommendations of my own, sorry!

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Don't feel bad about hating Jim Beam and Jack Daniels either. They both give whiskey a bad name.

No poo poo. Makes me a bit upset that as a proud redneck from Tennessee I don't like JD. I can drown it in Coke/Dr. Pepper and get drunk, but I just cannot stand the stuff. What the hell was a man as rich, famous, and beloved by all as Frank Sinatra thinking?

On the other hand I went to the cigar store with my Dad and several folks on Saturdays bring a bottle (byob sort of place). I had some Weller's, some Buffalo Trace, some JW Black (mixed with Coke), some reg Four Roses, and to top it all off I drunkenly wandered across the busiest street in Memphis to buy a bottle of Laphroig QC which myself and a really good friend finished off over a game of Go (which I lost to the inscrutable oriental whiles of my favorite Indian chef :cheers:).

Glad I wasn't driving...

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

DerekSmartymans posted:

No poo poo. Makes me a bit upset that as a proud redneck from Tennessee I don't like JD. I can drown it in Coke/Dr. Pepper and get drunk, but I just cannot stand the stuff. What the hell was a man as rich, famous, and beloved by all as Frank Sinatra thinking?

Seriously. I'd take Old Crow over Jack any day. It's one of the few whiskies I honestly do not like.

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Stultus Maximus posted:

Seriously. I'd take Old Crow over Jack any day. It's one of the few whiskies I honestly do not like.

Just the sound of JD Honey makes me want to vomit.

Lowness 72
Jul 19, 2006
BUTTS LOL

Jade Ear Joe
I went to the liquor store this weekend intent on buying some more bourbon. I'm a fan of Bookers (but whyyyy is it so expensive now?), Four Roses, and Eagle Rare. Almost picked up a store barrel Eagle Rare, then saw the Blantons and really had to think.

But then - what's this? The Irish section - a new Sherry finished Redbreast?

Redbreast Lustau. No age statement - BUT supposedly it's 9-13 years which is a bit younger than standard Redbreast 12 but some bullshit about the Sherry butts means they didn't put an age statement. Probably this means younger whiskey as demand rises. Anyway - I put down the bourbon and went for the Lustau since Redbreast is my favorite Irish whiskey.

It. is. fantastic. I am terrible at tasting notes but I'm pulling alot of toffee out of the finish. It's a very refreshing, almost sweet twist on standard Redbreast.

I continue to be impressed by Irish whiskey. It unfortunately seems to be a touch too expensive at times, which is why I always forget it. But then I drink it and really enjoy it. I have a bottle of Jameson 12 at home that I really enjoy, and recently polished off a Powers John Lane that is in my top 5 whiskeys I think. But again, it was closer to $45 in Ireland, vs. $75 at the local store.

Anyway - if you see the Lustau and like Redbreast - check it out! I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Grabbed this but can't decide how I feel about it. It's a little different but provokes no strong reaction one way or the other.

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KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


22 Eargesplitten posted:

Don't feel bad about hating Jim Beam and Jack Daniels either. They both give whiskey a bad name thanks to being the two biggest names and being below average even at their price range.

JD is only good for one thing, and that's to mix with Coke and have a drink for Lemmy's birthday on December 24th and another one to remember him by, on the 28th.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =

rohan posted:

Which whisky bar?

There's a new bar that's opened up on High St Northcote, Buck Mulligan's, which I'd recommend if it's at all convenient for you. They specialise in Irish whiskey but offer a range from Scotland, Japan, USA etc (and our own Starward, of course).

There's a whiskey list here. I've only been there a few times but the staff are helpful and seem to know what they're talking about. I'm also learning as I go so can't make any solid recommendations of my own, sorry!

Whiskey and Alement on Russell st in the CBD. It was a really nice little venue. I might check out this northcote one, I live out just past Doncaster so nowhere near me will do but many of my friends/colleagues live near northcote so an easy excuse :)

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi
Is a set of glasses like this: http://www.waterford.com/heritage-straight-sided-tumbler-set-of-6 decent as a set of whiskey glasses for life? Would it be better to get something with more variety of shapes?

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Residency Evil posted:

Is a set of glasses like this: http://www.waterford.com/heritage-straight-sided-tumbler-set-of-6 decent as a set of whiskey glasses for life? Would it be better to get something with more variety of shapes?

That looks really pricey. If you're picking up something with the idea of looking classy and sophisticated when hosting guests, I expect that a matching set of crystal would be the consensus option.

Glencairns are all the rage these days, though, especially if you're tasting neat.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Residency Evil posted:

Is a set of glasses like this: http://www.waterford.com/heritage-straight-sided-tumbler-set-of-6 decent as a set of whiskey glasses for life? Would it be better to get something with more variety of shapes?

Waterford stuff is really nice.

I like whiskey out of a tumbler like that myself.

hakimashou fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Jun 7, 2017

Jamsta
Dec 16, 2006

Oh you want some too? Fuck you!

Not that you can tell, but this is Bulleit bourbon salted fudge, made by me. It's feckin' tasty even if I do say so myself...

S.W.O.R.D. Agent
Apr 30, 2012

Residency Evil posted:

Is a set of glasses like this: http://www.waterford.com/heritage-straight-sided-tumbler-set-of-6 decent as a set of whiskey glasses for life? Would it be better to get something with more variety of shapes?

I've been using a Glencarin with no complaints, but was wanting something with a bit more weight and pulled the trigger on a set of these: http://www.waterford.com/lismore-7oz-rounded-tumbler-pair

I liked that they were still sort of a "nosing" glass. This: http://www.waterford.com/lismore-5-5-oz-footed-tasting-tumbler-pair is also an option if you want crystal like a Glencarin. Glencarin themselves also makes a crystal version of their own glass.

Horn
Jun 18, 2004

Penetration is the key to success
College Slice

Jamsta posted:

Not that you can tell, but this is Bulleit bourbon salted fudge, made by me. It's feckin' tasty even if I do say so myself...



Please don't post the recipe

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Horn posted:

Please don't post the recipe

I can't disagree; trying to lose weight.

Jamsta
Dec 16, 2006

Oh you want some too? Fuck you!

Horn posted:

Please don't post the recipe

This totally isn't a recipe :)

100g / 3.5 oz - Butter
300ml / 10 fl oz - Milk
350g / 12.5 oz - Fine caster sugar (don't use HF corn syrup :D )

2 (or more!) shots of the bourbon of your choice
Kosher salt

Mix first 3 ingredients in pan and heat to 115c / 240f
Leave to cool for 5 mins
Pour in bourbon and a little salt and mix thoroughly
Beat the hell out of it until it thickens
Put in greased tray (or use butcher paper) and leave to cool
Salt again when cooled

Eat loads and feel sick, or share with friends and family and feel good.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Jamsta posted:

This totally isn't a recipe :)

100g / 3.5 oz - Butter
300ml / 10 fl oz - Milk
350g / 12.5 oz - Fine caster sugar (don't use HF corn syrup :D )

2 (or more!) shots of the bourbon of your choice
Kosher salt

Mix first 3 ingredients in pan and heat to 115c / 240f
Leave to cool for 5 mins
Pour in bourbon and a little salt and mix thoroughly
Beat the hell out of it until it thickens
Put in greased tray (or use butcher paper) and leave to cool
Salt again when cooled

Eat loads and feel sick, or share with friends and family and feel good.

loving hell why.

S.W.O.R.D. Agent
Apr 30, 2012

Jamsta posted:

This totally isn't a recipe :)

100g / 3.5 oz - Butter
300ml / 10 fl oz - Milk
350g / 12.5 oz - Fine caster sugar (don't use HF corn syrup :D )

2 (or more!) shots of the bourbon of your choice
Kosher salt

Mix first 3 ingredients in pan and heat to 115c / 240f
Leave to cool for 5 mins
Pour in bourbon and a little salt and mix thoroughly
Beat the hell out of it until it thickens
Put in greased tray (or use butcher paper) and leave to cool
Salt again when cooled

Eat loads and feel sick, or share with friends and family and feel good.

Does the type of milk matter? Asking for a friend. :hfive:

Jamsta
Dec 16, 2006

Oh you want some too? Fuck you!

silvergoose posted:

loving hell why.

Because it tastes so drat good!

Really want to put a heavy duty Laphroig in it next time for a smoke'n'sweet taste.

S.W.O.R.D. Agent posted:

Does the type of milk matter? Asking for a friend. :hfive:

Creamier the better. I used semi-skimmed, but as long as it's got fatty lactose in it, it'll probably work :D You couldn't probably swap it for cream and it'd be crazy sickly sweet.

S.W.O.R.D. Agent
Apr 30, 2012

Jamsta posted:

Creamier the better. I used semi-skimmed, but as long as it's got fatty lactose in it, it'll probably work :D You couldn't probably swap it for cream and it'd be crazy sickly sweet.

Okay, excellent, I'll report back with my findings.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef
Recipes I'm seeing suggest using evaporated milk because it handles heat better, so you might want to give that a shot.

Also, smoky fudge sounds pretty great.

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Jamsta
Dec 16, 2006

Oh you want some too? Fuck you!

S.W.O.R.D. Agent posted:

Okay, excellent, I'll report back with my findings.

Please do, let us know which whisk(ies) you chose.

Toast Museum posted:

Recipes I'm seeing suggest using evaporated milk because it handles heat better, so you might want to give that a shot.

Also, smoky fudge sounds pretty great.

IMO, doesn't taste as good. Yup: handling the heat in fudge making is the hardest bit. So easy to over/under cook, and burn the sugar. But when it works it's amazing.

Jamsta fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jun 8, 2017

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