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Gammatron 64 posted:That Chemical Plant remix is awesome and reminds me of Stardust Speedway Bad Future a lot. Also the new gimmicks are cool as hell, especially when you bounce on that jelly stuff. That's rad. And the DNA thing. That level looks so drat fun. Sonic 4 Episode 1 is a supreme dumpster fire that looks bad and plays awfully and sounds garbage. Episode 2 still sounds bad, and still isn't really great, but it's better than the tire fire that is Episode 1. Sonic CD is still way better than Sonic 4, even though it's still a weird game for a lot of reasons.
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Gammatron 64 posted:It's kinda funny that half of the levels are taken from previous Sonic games, but they somehow still feel more fresh, new and interesting than Sonic 4. gently caress Sonic 4. So hard. Sonic 4, just like Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection, does not exist.
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I forget if this has been mentioned before but just to be clear, is Sonic Mania getting a retail release or is it a download-only title?
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Jun 8, 2017 19:03
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The special edition comes with a download code so it is probably digital only.
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XavierGenisi posted:Sonic 4 Episode 1 is a supreme dumpster fire that looks bad and plays awfully and sounds garbage. To be fair, he's also a weird dude who probably has had too much Internet exposure and is only capable of either loving something or hating it and says that anyone who likes Majora's Mask and Metal Gear Solid 2/4 is a garbage person because insanity I guess (All of those games are pretty flawed but none of them are seriously all that bad come on)
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Andre Banzai posted:Sonic 4, just like Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection, does not exist. The non-theatrical cuts of Alien 3 are alright though
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Jun 8, 2017 19:11
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It looks cool but eh I'd rather have seen something not done in Generations. This was disappointment I expected, though.
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I'm not watching the Chemical Plant vids because I want more surprises in the game itself. This sucks though so I don't recommend it.
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Overbite posted:The non-theatrical cuts of Alien 3 are alright though I thought the ending to Alien 3 where Ridley has to sacrifice herself was pretty cool. Sadly the rest of the movie was kinda lame. I haven't even bothered to see that new one that just came out, I just don't even care. Alien and Aliens are the only ones you gotta see.
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XavierGenisi posted:Sonic 4 Episode 1 is a supreme dumpster fire that looks bad and plays awfully and sounds garbage. Sonic 4 Episode 2... at least doesn't feel like a sacrilegious use of the name "Sonic 4". It's not great but it doesn't disgust me, it's below average but not abysmal. I'd put it above Advance 2. I was also really disappointed to hear they were rolling with Chemical Plant again but I'm pleasantly surprised with how they freshened it up. Chemical Plant was already one of Generations's best levels so I didn't think they'd have any room to make it feel new again, but they did so really well. I think the "Act 1 is an homage, Act 2 is a remix" format works really well from what we've seen so far. I do hope there's another Sonic 2 stage though... Would it be reasonable to expect something like 2 stages from each of the 5 classic titles, 5 new stages for all the Heavies and a 6th new final stage (with maybe a 7th for the Super battle)? Sonic 3&K had 11 full stages combined with 2 one act stages and a final boss zone, so 16 seems about right to me for Mania. nerdbot fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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I liked the 69 attack in Sonic 4 Vol. 2.
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Gammatron 64 posted:I haven't even bothered to see that new one that just came out, I just don't even care. Alien and Aliens are the only ones you gotta see. Heran Bago posted:I'm not watching the Chemical Plant vids because I want more surprises in the game itself. This sucks though so I don't recommend it. I'm hoping I completely forget Mania is coming out by August and it shows up on my door completely blowing my mind.
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nerdbot posted:Sonic 4 Episode 2... at least doesn't feel like a sacrilegious use of the name "Sonic 4". It's not great but it doesn't disgust me, it's below average but not abysmal. I'd put it above Advance 2. Yeah, while not great Sonic 4 Episode 2 at least feels more like a sequel to me (with more original enemies and bosses). In fact, you probably could ignore the first one entirely and just play that.
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nerdbot posted:I do hope there's another Sonic 2 stage though... Would it be reasonable to expect something like 2 stages from each of the 5 classic titles, 5 new stages for all the Heavies and a 6th new final stage (with maybe a 7th for the Super battle)? Sonic 3&K had 11 full stages combined with 2 one act stages and a final boss zone, so 16 seems about right to me for Mania. I think that would be perfectly reasonable and that's about the number I'm expecting to be honest. I think it would still *feel* kinda short because we'd have seen most of the classic levels, but it would be a fair amount of levels. They have hinted at the ratio of 60% classic to 40% new somewhere, haven't they? So 10 classic levels being our 60%, that would give us about the number 6 (6,667...) for new levels. The math would add up. Now they have almost revealed one single level for each classic game now: Green Hill (S1), Chemical Plant (S2), Stardust Speedway (SCD), *MISSING* (S3), Flying Battery (S&K). I am going to predict that they'll reveal Hydrocity or Ice Cap next month. That way, they'd still keep another level of each classic game a secret until launch, while keeping the hype up. If this happens, it'd be more evidence for the 16 levels theory. Does that make sense or am I insane?
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I swear they went from 12 stages to 10 but good luck digging through mania news. Kinda not too excited to dig up information on an argument I want to lose. Give me all the stages. ALL OF THEM.
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Larryb posted:Yeah, while not great Sonic 4 Episode 2 at least feels more like a sequel to me (with more original enemies and bosses). In fact, you probably could ignore the first one entirely and just play that. The best part of Episode 2 is the end of the first zone where it plays on your expectations from Episode 1 by making it look like they're rehashing yet another old boss (Aquatic Ruin in this case) and then bam, nope, giant plant robot out of nowhere.
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Spiderdrake posted:I swear they went from 12 stages to 10 This would unfortunately make a lot of sense too. :-( EDIT: They have also stated that this game would be longer than Generations. Would 10 Mania levels, from what we've seen so far, make a longer game than Generations? Andre Banzai fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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I think Generations is counted at 9, which is the metric I imagine they're using.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:His game had better run at 60fps in every platform. If it comes out and they're like "lmao only 60fps on PS4 pro" I'm gonna be pissed. Would buy a PS4 Pro in a heart beat for Mania alone.
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Spiderdrake posted:I think Generations is counted at 9, which is the metric I imagine they're using. drat that would suck a whole lot if that's the metric. That would make the game about the size of S&K. An average longplay of Generations on Youtube is about 2hs 20 minutes long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN_nnwlmjws While the average length of a Sonic 3 & Knuckles longplay goes from 2 to 3 hours. So I'm guessing we're looking at about 10 levels for SM, actually. That makes more sense. Bummer.
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I'm going to blame you guys for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RHdrmZsNs0
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Ha ha get it because they both have furries and a negative reputation on the internet The height of comedy really
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Gammatron 64 posted:That Chemical Plant remix is awesome and reminds me of Stardust Speedway Bad Future a lot. That siren sound sample owns so much
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Andre Banzai posted:drat that would suck a whole lot if that's the metric. That would make the game about the size of S&K. This is a lot of assumptions being chained together
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TFRazorsaw posted:Ha ha get it because they both have furries and a negative reputation on the internet I actually think it's on to something. Like the devs saw all the Sonic Forces Bubsy memes and slapped that poo poo together in a few months.
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TFRazorsaw posted:Ha ha get it because they both have furries and a negative reputation on the internet Nah, is due the jokes about Bubsy being the mysterious new characters for Sonic Forces back on april  
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Augus posted:This is a lot of assumptions being chained together Estimating is educated guesswork. ;-)
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Looking it up for ~30 seconds, there aren't many statements about amount of zones that I could find. I could only seem to find this reddit post which speculates 15 zones. It's based off of the silhouettes that we saw early on of certain bosses + Iizuka saying the game will mostly be Classic levels. Sounds like a decent guess to me.
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SONIC MANIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Ventana posted:Looking it up for ~30 seconds, there aren't many statements about amount of zones that I could find. I could only seem to find this reddit post which speculates 15 zones. It's based off of the silhouettes that we saw early on of certain bosses + Iizuka saying the game will mostly be Classic levels. Sounds like a decent guess to me. Hey, that's pretty aligned with my original estimate here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3784657&pagenumber=96#post473180725 Not sure if that's just wishful thinking, but that would be a good number for me!
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Nah, is due the jokes about Bubsy being the mysterious new characters for Sonic Forces back on april I will not apologize
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:I'm going to blame you guys for this CJacobs...it is calling you.
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As I've similarly said elsewhere on the forum: I hope the developers of the new Bubsy game suffer a plague of locusts. I can't wait to stream it.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:I'm going to blame you guys for this Oh, no... nobody wanted this. Accolade, please, you really don't have bring Bubsy back. Please. We were doing so well without him.
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Just think Even this will probably be better than Mighty No. 9.
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TFRazorsaw posted:Just think It's at least in development, which is further than the Boogerman remake got, a game even more forgotten than Bubsy.
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So it looks like the GHZ boss is going to be Death Egg Robot.
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Gammatron 64 posted:Oh, no... nobody wanted this. Accolade, please, you really don't have bring Bubsy back. Please. We were doing so well without him. Hell it looks like a loving reskin of Giana Sisters. In case it isn't clear, Giana Sister is like... Sonic 4 level fun. An ocean of mediocre.
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Spiderdrake posted:The developers are black forest games or whatever, who brought back the loving Giana sisters. Look that poo poo up and tell me more people remember them than Bubsy. Gladly. Giana Sisters were apparently actually really big in parts of Europe despite their weird history, especially since Nintendo was less successful over there. People legitimately really cared about Giana Sisters and bringing them back in a less-ripoffy way makes sense. Bubsy is a meme.
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I said 'more people remember' not 'more people have positive memories of'. Actually just to correct myself, I mean the remake is mediocre. I actually played and enjoyed the original back on my older cousin's machine of who knows what it was when I was like 5. Bubsy is iconic. That he's an icon of an army of failure platforming mascots, well, people still remember him.
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