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Looks like 3 out of the 5 of Butler's Top 25 recruiting class are staying. Kyle Young hasn't said anything, but is friends with Cooper Neese. So I think he'll stay. I don't know about Christian David. Collier has already interviewed two of the assistant coaches for the jobs. He's also interviewing Micah Shrewsberry and Lavall Jordan. No word on Matthew Graves. If we can't get Graves, I'd rather have Jordan and maybe bringing on Shrewsberry and Ronald Nored as assistants. At this point, Butler needs someone with ties to the program who isn't going to leave unless the NBA comes calling. We need some loyalty.
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That's the way to never getting another top 25 class again.
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Jun 11, 2017 00:55
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Kibner posted:That's the way to never getting another top 25 class again. Well we aren't getting any more classes like that in a while. I'd rather have one of those guys I mentioned who can build on the foundation with the guys we have now than a retread like Crean, Groce, Romar, etc.
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Jun 11, 2017 00:58
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pubic works project posted:Well we aren't getting any more classes like that in a while. I'd rather have one of those guys I mentioned who can build on the foundation with the guys we have now than a retread like Crean, Groce, Romar, etc. I'm just saying that making "loyalty" that high of a priority is a sure-fire way to get nothing but mediocre to bad coaches.
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Jun 11, 2017 01:05
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Kibner posted:I'm just saying that making "loyalty" that high of a priority is a sure-fire way to get nothing but mediocre to bad coaches. Kim Anderson was the truest son to ever true son at Mizzou. I wish him well now that he's gone, but if he somehow ever got close to the job again I would be forced to hope he developed terrible health problems that made him quit coaching.
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Jun 11, 2017 01:17
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You do not want a "loyalty" hire lmao It just leads to a fractured fanbase if the hire turns out mediocre or worse
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Jun 11, 2017 02:56
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Well, the last 5 head coaches for Butler, from Matta to Holtmann, were all promoted assistants. Collier seems to know what he's doing with them.
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Jun 11, 2017 03:02
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^^--It does seem like in June an interim assistant would be the right way to go. If you decide he's your guy hire him full time, if not re-asses at the end of the year.Lessail posted:It just leads to a fractured fanbase if the hire turns out mediocre or worse This is also a good point. There are some (old, out of touch, insane) Missouri fans who believe Kim Anderson was on the right track. Kim, who had a .284 winning percentage in 3 years and managed to run off 11 or 12 scholarship players, most of which he recruited. But this faction still exists. It's worth noting out of fairness that he didn't come into a good situation, but it still seems impossible to be bad enough for a loyalty hire to have the entire fan base behind getting rid of him.
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Jun 11, 2017 03:04
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Jordan's been a head coach for one year and his team was awful. If he had played literally anywhere else he wouldn't sniff a job like Butler in a million years
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Jun 11, 2017 03:31
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pubic works project posted:Looks like 3 out of the 5 of Butler's Top 25 recruiting class are staying. Kyle Young hasn't said anything, but is friends with Cooper Neese. So I think he'll stay. I don't know about Christian David. Is it realistic to think you're going to get Shrewsberry for just an assistant role?
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Jun 11, 2017 16:38
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Kim Jong Il posted:Is it realistic to think you're going to get Shrewsberry for just an assistant role? I just realized that he's 40 and still with Boston. I thought he was younger and would want the top assistant coach position. Ideally, after doing some more reading, I think Shrewsberry is the best choice. He's not the best recruiter, but surely his NBA years would have to count for something. Bring Ronald Nored, keep Terry Johnson and I think you have a good coaching staff.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:45
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Kibner posted:I'm just saying that making "loyalty" that high of a priority is a sure-fire way to get nothing but mediocre to bad coaches. Sometimes you make what you think is a loyalty hire and they still leave you anyway. 
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Jun 12, 2017 17:12
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Butler has agreed in principle with LaVall Jordan to be our next coach. I was waffling between him and Shrewsberry. I imagine Collier knows what he's doing.
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Jun 13, 2017 02:43
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Huh, if Jontay Porter reclassifies Missouri will have five players who are 6'10" or taller. Last year they were super small by big time conference standards. Technically they had two 6'10 guys, but one of them tore up his knee early in the season and the other one was recovering from hip surgery all year. He played some, but you can tell he couldn't really move. So the bulk of the interior play was a 6'8" guy and a 6'7" guy. But either way 5 of those guys is a lot by most any standards. They might even do things like rebound, which I've been told is a rare basketball play where your team get the ball after a missed basket.
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Jun 14, 2017 00:00
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http://es.pn/2tqvmTt NCAA issues punishment for Pitino and UofL. Pitino suspended for the first 5 ACC games this season, the program has to vacate all wins from Dec 2010 through July 2011, and 4 more years probation. That would include the 2013 title and 2012 Final Four. They have 45 days to notify the NCAA which games the ineligible players played in, which should include the title. Louisville will appeal. It sure looks to me like the banner is in pretty serious jeopardy, but I'm honestly surprised Pitino didn't get anything more severe.
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Jun 15, 2017 20:39
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Come on NCAA, give em the death penalty.
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Jun 15, 2017 21:30
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TheAlmightyFrog posted:http://es.pn/2tqvmTt Uh, am I missing something
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Jun 15, 2017 21:56
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A typo. 2011 should be 2014.
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Jun 15, 2017 21:59
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Yeah, typo, it's 2014.
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Jun 15, 2017 22:12
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Speaking as uofl alumni, the ncaas ruling is both complete horseshit and completely deserved. I cant defend complete and institutional idiocy. It goes double when you factor in Ricks sex scandal. To try and pull having hookers for the players, after the coach has a very public sex scandal leak, makes Trump look like Einstein. Whether the banner stays up or goes down, Fire Rick.
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Jun 16, 2017 08:42
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Mother gently caress. Holtmann just poached Kyle Young from Butler. I really hate it when poo poo like this happens, especially when it's my school.
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Jun 20, 2017 17:26
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Cordell Pemsl just had surgery to repair two torn groin muscles that he somehow played basically the entirety of last season with, which seems insane. He averaged 9/5 and shot 62% from the field as a true freshman playing with two torn groins.
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pubic works project posted:Mother gently caress. Holtmann just poached Kyle Young from Butler. I really hate it when poo poo like this happens, especially when it's my school. If it makes you feel better a 2018 recruit just de-committed today, leaving Ohio State with a grand total of 0 for the year.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:23
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Northwestern assistant Pat Baldwin is the head coach at UW Milwaukee.
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Jun 22, 2017 03:26
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R.D. Mangles posted:Northwestern assistant Pat Baldwin is the head coach at UW Milwaukee. Good for him, but is UW-M like a total dumpster fire right now? I thought even the school or athletic department was having serious issues. Kind of weird to see coaches from Northwestern getting hired away.
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Bird in a Blender posted:Good for him, but is UW-M like a total dumpster fire right now? I thought even the school or athletic department was having serious issues. Kind of weird to see coaches from Northwestern getting hired away. A system wide cut of 250 million will do that to ya.
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Jun 22, 2017 14:35
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Auburn's likely one-and-a-half and done Austin Wiley makes USA U19 team, blowing everybody away after adding like 25 pounds (that's good!) Incoming freshman Chuma Okeke suffers a possibly not good sounding knee injury at those tryouts (that's bad!)
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It's truly a new era of Mizzou basketballquote:A 23-year-old (presumably former) University of Missouri employee drove his Volkswagen Passat through a gate outside Mizzou Arena early Sunday morning. According to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, the driver then somehow managed to steer said car onto the basketball court inside the arena, causing roughly $100,000 in damages. http://deadspin.com/police-mizzou-employee-causes-100-000-in-damages-whil-1796426975
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Jun 26, 2017 21:55
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Available for jokes: drive to the hoop kick the tires ball handling dribble drive fast brake wheel offense turnover pick and roll
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Jun 26, 2017 22:23
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The new UNLV logo sucks. Focuses on the wrong colors imo https://twitter.com/unlv/status/880160841915449344
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Jun 29, 2017 01:16
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Bamba's brother is trying to get the NCAA to disqualify Bamba by alleging violations with a financial advisor: https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/06/29/texas-mohamed-bamba-alleged-recruiting-violations
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Jun 29, 2017 15:53
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Well that will get you uninvited to Thanksgiving
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Jun 29, 2017 16:27
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Cross-posting. This can't be good for recruiting can it? 
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Is this is the first time the media has reported that he's the one who reached out to a team? The other 3 or 4 times he's been linked to nba teams in the last few years haven't really affected much
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Jun 30, 2017 02:41
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https://twitter.com/UKCoachCalipari/status/880622566305652736 Sounds like he contacted the Knicks himself!
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Jun 30, 2017 05:54
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Oh no he might have to settle for a 4* recruit this year.
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Jun 30, 2017 14:11
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Peppering in a few 4* would actually help his program be more successful in the tournament in my opinion.
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Jun 30, 2017 18:24
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He has literally made the final 4 in half his seasons at UK
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Jun 30, 2017 18:28
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I didn't say his postseason record was bad, just that it could be better with a few more upperclassmen. It's a scary concept.
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Counterpoint: having lots of super good players is actually good, as evidenced by his extremely successful teams
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