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Votecount for Day 2 [8] Added Space: Infinitum, Sandwolf, The Ninth Layer, Added Space, Raeg, Dr. Hurt, Tired Moritz, Kasumeat [1] The Ninth Layer: TMMadman [5] Not Voting: chaoslord, CirclMastr, Ernie., GulagDolls, Hal IncandenzaWith 14 alive, it's 8 votes to lynch. The current deadline is June 11th, 2017 at 3 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 0 minutes.
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Jun 13, 2017 14:06
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 GulagDolls, Brad Friedel, Goalkeeper, VT has been cut! He was also voted MOTM, but since he's no longer on the roster, Chaoslord has been awarded a boon! We'll shoot for Thursday night EST for deadline. Day 3 begins! t a s t e fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 14:09
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Hmmm... this is a pickling problem.
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Jun 13, 2017 14:15
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Why was I not MOTM? I got the death miller lynched 
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Jun 13, 2017 14:17
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So did Gulag not have a role, or is Goalkeeper a role I don't know about?
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Jun 13, 2017 15:06
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yeah, i'm tired.
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Jun 13, 2017 15:11
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I voted chaos for MotM. And no 2nd kill today which is interesting.
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Jun 13, 2017 15:15
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If you're a town vig who vigged n1 you should claim now instead of muddying up the thread later.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:57
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Gulag was a good poster. He will be missed. Also I MOMT Ernie.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:10
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Ernie. posted:If you're a town vig who vigged n1 you should claim now instead of muddying up the thread later. Maybe Infi is the SK and just no-killed in case there's a tracker or watcher.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:37
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I MOTM Gulag cuz I was en-thrall-d. Also Inf do you still think Sandwolf is badguy?
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Jun 13, 2017 17:37
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I MOTM Tired because why not, that's why.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:40
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CirclMastr posted:Maybe Infi is the SK and just no-killed in case there's a tracker or watcher. I've also seen SKs killing on alternative nights in medium sized games before.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:41
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Man, if AS was scum so would have fallen into place, now I gotta reevaluate. Maybe Sandwolf just has a magical read in the situation. Chaoslord is an interesting choice for MOTM
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Jun 13, 2017 17:44
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I still think TNL and Sandwolf are scum.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:11
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I find it confusing as gently caress that Added Space is town. Like... did they really believe that Infinitum was an SK and said nothing in the thread? Also Ixt hasn't posted at all, so ##vote Ixt
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Jun 13, 2017 18:14
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Tired Moritz posted:Also Ixt hasn't posted at all, so ##vote Ixt Ixt got replaced by Hal at the beginning of the second day. Jonathan Fisk posted:Hal has replaced Ixt!
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Jun 13, 2017 18:18
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oh what the gently caress? thanks ##unvote I guess with Added Space flipping town, Infinitum really is the most suspicious but I don't understand why an Sk would even do such a gambit.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:22
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Just FYI I'm going to be gone most of the day today so I won't be posting, but given the way events have shaken out I think an Infi vote is justified. We'll see what happens with the discussion before then though.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:45
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CirclMastr posted:Just FYI I'm going to be gone most of the day today so I won't be posting, but given the way events have shaken out I think an Infi vote is justified. We'll see what happens with the discussion before then though. You probably won't answer this for a while and that's fine, but do you think Inf is actually scum? Essentially what are you using as justification for lynching?
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Jun 13, 2017 19:02
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My gut says Inf is still SK but my gut also thought Sandwolf clear as day were linked, so who knows.
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Jun 13, 2017 20:44
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TMMadman posted:You probably won't answer this for a while and that's fine, but do you think Inf is actually scum? Are you even playing the same game as the rest of us? Inf is an incredibly obvious SK candidate. The fact that you don't even seem to consider this makes me wonder whether this is a SK slip.
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Jun 13, 2017 21:12
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why would an sk would reveal himself, like ever?
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Jun 13, 2017 21:14
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Kasumeat posted:Are you even playing the same game as the rest of us? Inf is an incredibly obvious SK candidate. The fact that you don't even seem to consider this makes me wonder whether this is a SK slip. SKs can not tradionally withhold a kill. It's possible that Inf is an SK and either also tried to kill Gulag or tried to kill someone that a doctor protected. However, my concern is the way Circl phrased his issue like it was an inevitability that Inf was the one getting lynched today. That kind of thing is something scum do, so I wanted to know if Circl actually think Inf is scum or if he just wants to hang Inf because Inf made a stupid play.
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Jun 13, 2017 21:23
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Because he was planning on a bizarre gambit. We already have complete confirmation that Inf made some bizarre gambit, that's just one more level on top of it. SK Inf could've made that initial SK "joke" planning to be just a joke, but hoping for the small chance that a newb AS scum would get baited and Inf would be able to reveal the scum for huge towncred. Are you forgetting that they discussed killing Jam? It's possible that that's coincidence, but in a 16-player game, it's not loving likely.
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Jun 13, 2017 21:28
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CirclMastr posted:Just FYI I'm going to be gone most of the day today so I won't be posting, but given the way events have shaken out I think an Infi vote is justified. We'll see what happens with the discussion before then though. What were you doing visiting him?
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Jun 13, 2017 21:35
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TMMadman posted:SKs can not tradionally withhold a kill. It's possible that Inf is an SK and either also tried to kill Gulag or tried to kill someone that a doctor protected. Where do you think the 2nd NK came from then? I think a Vig would've claimed at this point to avoid the potential mislynch on Inf. Because Inf sure as gently caress isn't scum, with AS being town.
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Jun 13, 2017 21:35
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eeeeh, I don't get it. I see a lot of people going "Infi is crazy and do dumb gambits all the time" but I don't think I ever see Infi do a crazy gambit, like ever. I like to believe that people would actually play towards their wincon. And there's no way an SK would risk something like this. All the people going "WELP I GUESS THIS MAKES INFI THE SK" sounds lazy as hell. It's a blah opinion that anyone would get if they don't think critically, with the usage of the "Infi pulls gambit" meta evidence as weak supporting reasoning to not consider any other options. Hell, we have no idea if there's even an Sk in this game. it could be an maf with an extra night kill or a town vig who isn't saying anything.
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Jun 13, 2017 21:36
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Tired Moritz posted:eeeeh, I don't get it. I see a lot of people going "Infi is crazy and do dumb gambits all the time" but I don't think I ever see Infi do a crazy gambit, like ever. I like to believe that people would actually play towards their wincon. And there's no way an SK would risk something like this. If AS had flipped scum, would you be more or less inclined to lynch Inf?
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Jun 13, 2017 21:38
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Kasumeat posted:Where do you think the 2nd NK came from then? I think a Vig would've claimed at this point to avoid the potential mislynch on Inf. Because Inf sure as gently caress isn't scum, with AS being town. How do you know Inf isn't scum? I think it could be possible for him to be scum. Inf is known to pull wild gambits as both alignments and then hope for the best. And I've also seen vigs use their shot on D1 and then never tell the thread about it until the game was over. In fact, I'm pretty sure that the mod of this very game was one of the people I've seen do it. I'm not taking anything for granted, but I'm also not going to assume that Inf is the SK (or scum) because of his gambit.
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Jun 13, 2017 21:42
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I would had been less inclined actually. If AS flipped scum, I would assume that it would be town infi doing a play. Now it just seemed like two dumb townies loving up by lying at each other.
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Jun 13, 2017 21:42
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TMMadman posted:How do you know Inf isn't scum? I think it could be possible for him to be scum. Inf is known to pull wild gambits as both alignments and then hope for the best. Why in god's loving name would scum ever knowingly "out" a townie in a gambit like this? This is the dumbest poo poo I've ever loving heard. This is not the opinion of a townie actually thinking about the game, it's scum trying to throw shade on everything he possible can. ##vote TMM
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Jun 13, 2017 21:52
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Tired Moritz posted:I would had been less inclined actually. If AS flipped scum, I would assume that it would be town infi doing a play. Of course you'd be less inclined, that's the purpose of the gambit, and exactly why it might be a conceivable thing for a person who likes to gambit to do as SK. You say it's an incredibly risky thing to do, but tell me, how high do you think the risk really is? Who is actually going to seriously push him as SK when it's such a brazen claim like that?
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Jun 13, 2017 21:56
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Kasumeat posted:Why in god's loving name would scum ever knowingly "out" a townie in a gambit like this? This is the dumbest poo poo I've ever loving heard. This is not the opinion of a townie actually thinking about the game, it's scum trying to throw shade on everything he possible can. What does this even mean? Scums goal is to kill townies. If Inf, as scum, can say " I'm in an unconfirmed masonry with Added and he scum claimed" in order to get town to waste a day then it's a good day for scum. Sure it puts Inf at risk and maybe he's the next lynch, but it's just as possible that he avoids it by saying something along the lines of 'well I was wrong but wrong doesn't equal scum' (which is a valid argument). Maybe Inf is the best lynch today or maybe something else will come up. Again, my issue is that Circl seemed to say that Inf being next was a foregone conclusion because it was justified and not because he thought Inf was scum/SK. The way it was phrased reeked of someone trying to get the lynch to go a certain way. Not to mention that he didn't even drop a vote even though it's early in the day. So it also felt like a trail balloon before actually voting.
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Jun 13, 2017 22:05
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Kasumeat posted:Why in god's loving name would scum ever knowingly "out" a townie in a gambit like this? This is the dumbest poo poo I've ever loving heard. This is not the opinion of a townie actually thinking about the game, it's scum trying to throw shade on everything he possible can. I agree. ##vote TMM I also think Inf should be lynched real bad.
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Jun 13, 2017 22:08
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Sandwolf posted:I agree. This right here is the scum. ##vote Sandwolf He spent most of yesterday pushing to quickly lynch Added based on a lovely reason. He isn't actually looking for scum, he's just throwing poo poo and hoping it sticks.
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Jun 13, 2017 22:13
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I would vote for Sandwolf but first I want to know what CirclMastr did to Infinitum last night.
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Jun 13, 2017 22:26
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TMMadman posted:What does this even mean? Scums goal is to kill townies. If Inf, as scum, can say " I'm in an unconfirmed masonry with Added and he scum claimed" in order to get town to waste a day then it's a good day for scum. Sure it puts Inf at risk and maybe he's the next lynch, but it's just as possible that he avoids it by saying something along the lines of 'well I was wrong but wrong doesn't equal scum' (which is a valid argument). You're suggesting that it's a reasonable gambit for scum to out a player for scumclaiming. Scum would know that the other player was town (or like ~1/12 of being SK) and then when that player got lynched the scum would be almost certainly murdered. Which was going to happen until you scumclaimed with this loving retarded attempt to throw shade on me. There is literally 0% chance that scum ever does this. "How does this guy know Inf isn't scum guys, that's pretty shady!!!" rofl
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Jun 13, 2017 22:34
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Kasumeat thirsty for that Inf lynch
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Jun 13, 2017 22:38
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Kasumeat posted:You're suggesting that it's a reasonable gambit for scum to out a player for scumclaiming. Scum would know that the other player was town (or like ~1/12 of being SK) and then when that player got lynched the scum would be almost certainly murdered. Which was going to happen until you scumclaimed with this loving retarded attempt to throw shade on me. There is literally 0% chance that scum ever does this. "How does this guy know Inf isn't scum guys, that's pretty shady!!!" rofl It's absolutely reasonable for scum to make a gambit of 'hey my mason buddy scum claimed!" because it essentially forces the game to focus solely on one player for the day. That is a goal of scum. If the days conversation is focused on one player who isn't scum, then scum don't have to worry about being lynched which is generally speaking the only way town can kill scum.
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Jun 13, 2017 22:40
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