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Ularg posted:I don't remember 2033 having multiple stealth levels. I think what did it more for me is having a non-lethal knockout option. Seems cheap to be able to just systematically knock everyone out then make whatever noise you want. Did you play redux or the original? I heard redux changed the gameplay to basically be just like last light in most ways. In the original 2033 your watch had 3 light colors on it, with the best stealth level (no light) requiring the stealth suit. But yes, the addition of the silent knockout made a huge difference too since previously you'd have to use a silent weapon like the pneumatic gun to do it.
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Jun 15, 2017 04:29
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And it still made a degree of noise. Stealth was super hard in 2033 Redux 2033 felt way easier.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Of course you want it be a challenge otherwise you are just wasting time doing tedious bullshit In a stealth game, figuring out the correct way to use available stealth elements an abilities to achieve your goal is basically the core gameplay. In primarily 3rd person shooter open world hunting game, I don't want much more from stealth than using stealth elements to either approach targets and execute them, or avoid them. Because if it was more complicated than that, stealth would take significantly longer than just running and gunning. The tradeoff in the current system is that spend more time moving, because you move slower, but you spend less time fighting, because you either avoid enemies, or execute them. Complicating the process of how to apply stealth in HZD would not improve the game. The fact that a stealth gaming enthusiast is able to identify what stealth path to take in 10 seconds is a pro, and not a con. Because this is not a stealth game. If it was, it would be a con. Stealth isn't supposed to be the "elite" option here, where "if you can figure out how to use all the stealth features, you can stealth instead of fighting". It's just a straight up option for all skill levels: crouch in bushes or sprint in the open. That's just how I feel.
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I hope my horizon Meta Strats of buying all the stuff on the right side of the skill list first will not come back to bite me later
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Digirat posted:I hope my horizon Meta Strats of buying all the stuff on the right side of the skill list first will not come back to bite me later (get the plat it's easy and you get a rad theme)
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Sometimes but also this thread's loudest posters have niche taste. Says the dude that championed for honor for weeks 
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Jun 15, 2017 07:17
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...For Honor is not niche.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:19
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Isn't For Honor dead, though?
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Ularg posted:Isn't For Honor dead, though?  no
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Snak posted:...For Honor is not niche. For Honor is pretty niche, like a slightly more popular chilvary. Well in its prime
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I mean, it topped sales charts in the US and it outsold Nier Automata, which someone recently claimed was not niche. It had memes on the front page of reddit for like a month.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:36
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So the Crash remake trilogy added Coco as a playable character. The usual suspects are mad about it.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:37
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Well I mean in general niche is kind of meaningless but For Honor is not a well known game despite how many play it. It definitely doesn't have the staying power of a COD or Nier. Though that is because there isn't a lot to talk about in For Honor.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:38
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CharlestheHammer posted:Well I mean in general niche is kind of meaningless but For Honor is not a well known game despite how many play it. What does that mean? Tons of people know For Honor exist just because of marketing. It takes me forever to find someone who knows what a Guilty Gear or Persona is without stepping into an anime convention.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:39
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The playerbase has dropped off pretty significantly. https://www.pcgamesn.com/for-honor/for-honor-player-count 95 % of its audience jettisoning itself this early is kind of a bad sign.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:41
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I don't see many people who know about For Honor if we are using useless personal anecdotes for some reason.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:41
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THERE ARE NO PLAYSTATION GAMES THAT ARE NICHE. THEY ALL SELL A BILLION COPIES
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TFRazorsaw posted:The playerbase has dropped off pretty significantly. Wow that's really bad, Chilvary might be doing better.
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Snak posted:...For Honor is not niche. Tons of people out there clamoring for the knights vs samurai technical fighter with an unfamiliar control scheme. You know it's the case because it's so imitated.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:47
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it honestly wouldnt really surprise me if 5% of the initial for honor playerbase is larger than the all time peak chivalry playerbase
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Jun 15, 2017 07:48
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I was being facetious when I called For Honor niche but Nier Automata is about as niche as videogames get what the Christ.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:52
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Macarius Wrench posted:I was being facetious when I called For Honor niche but Nier Automata is about as niche as videogames get what the Christ. For Honor is more niche than Nier, Jesus Christ.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:53
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Let's discuss which games that pushed millions of copies are and aren't niche for more pages
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Jun 15, 2017 07:54
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Ryoga posted:I still have no idea how people get sick/dizzy from playing in vr. Like I know the science and have seen people get physically ill, but I have never experienced motion sickness myself. All these years of video games and ocean diving have prepared me well I guess. One of the complaints about Descent was that it gave people vertigo or motion sickness. In 1995 on a CRT monitor.
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Motto posted:Let's discuss which games that pushed millions of copies are and aren't niche for more pages It's the games I don't like.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:55
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We all clearly have different definitions of what constitutes niche, because I wasn't talkijg about the genre, which probably is. And I also don't consider player falloff to really matter. If it sold well and obtained mainstream popularity and media saturation at launch, it's not niche. A lovely game that burned out isn't the same thing as a niche game. The fact that people we're asking for a vikings versus knights versus samurai game doesn't mean it didn't appeal to a bunch of people, who said "that looks awesome" and bought it. So what if it turned out not to be awesome, it sold more copies than any other other video game in the US, across all platforms, digital and physical, in February. How can you say that something that outsold every other game, only appeals to a small number of people?
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Jun 15, 2017 07:56
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It didn't sell more than every other game so you got me.
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CharlestheHammer posted:It's the games I don't like. I don't like/never played For Honor though.
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Jun 15, 2017 07:58
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It's not exactly niche but it's not super popular either. Niche games can have more staying power than big ones, which is what is described as a cult following. Big general audience games can end up failing just because they suck. Remember Evolve? Everyone remembers it but only because it was marketed to a ridiculous extent while having a comically tiny player base. See also Battleborn. I would say For Honor was a somewhat niche game concept like Chivalry but the devs tried to bring it mainstream with middling results.
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Star Man posted:One of the complaints about Descent was that it gave people vertigo or motion sickness. In 1995 on a CRT monitor. Once again I had no problem with descent and that was honestly my very first home PC game I ever had.
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CharlestheHammer posted:For Honor is more niche than Nier, Jesus Christ. Definitions of niche aside this is quite a wrong statement. Edit: that's not the best way to word things but yeah For Honor had massive sales and a big marketing push, 2 things I wouldn't associate with niche. Macarius Wrench fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Jun 15, 2017 09:21
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CharlestheHammer posted:For Honor is more niche than Nier, Jesus Christ. lol
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Ausgoons, Big W's apparently undercutting everyone on the Crash Bandicoot Trilogy with a price of only $39AU.
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Current banner on Amazon.co.uk  The worst thing about this dumb niche argument is the fact that most of you probably pronounce it with a hard "ch"
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Nicky?
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Every game is a stealth game because I just avoid enemies all the time.
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Jun 15, 2017 10:26
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Sakurazuka posted:Nicky? Nitch instead of neesh. Just a dumb personal thing. On an Amazon related note .co.uk has the official wireless headphones for £20 at the moment. Which is good because my old pair died and I've been waiting for a discount.
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Look at all those niche titles!
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