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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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Niwrad posted:They just seem incredibly valuable. Unprotected picks from bad teams. There's a decent chance that Lakers pick is top-5 next year and that Kings pick is top-3. And this doesn't seem like a draft with a huge gap between players on top to move up two spots. I think it makes sense. Fultz and Jackson are definitely two players where one GM could see them as more or less equal prospects, and another could see a huge gulf between them. Fultz is a great fit for Philly's needs, and Jackson is the type of prospect that Ainge seems to really like. Hinkie-worshippers like to give Colangelo poo poo, but I think the Sixers are at the point where they can overpay for what they think is the Last Piece before they push toward contention.
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Jun 17, 2017 18:29
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who fathoms with a pole instead of a sounding line y'all sailors are crazy I'm never setting foot aboard your shipsxbilkis posted:Hinkie-worshippers like to give Colangelo poo poo, but I think the Sixers are at the point where they can overpay for what they think is the Last Piece before they push toward contention. this seems premature to me
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Jun 17, 2017 18:33
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EvanTH posted:who fathoms with a pole instead of a sounding line y'all sailors are crazy I'm never setting foot aboard your ships It's gotta be a really big pole and it's fine. The biggest pole you ever seen.
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Jun 17, 2017 18:35
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xbilkis posted:I think it makes sense. Fultz and Jackson are definitely two players where one GM could see them as more or less equal prospects, and another could see a huge gulf between them. Fultz is a great fit for Philly's needs, and Jackson is the type of prospect that Ainge seems to really like. If they are real high on Fultz I get it. I still think if you want a championship, you need a generational talent. The Lakers and Kings pick are a couple more shots at getting that player. Philly won 28 games last year. I don't think they can afford to overpay.
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Jun 17, 2017 18:35
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Niwrad posted:
Counterpoint: Their "Big 3" played 30 games combined in the NBA. It is all risky.
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Jun 17, 2017 18:39
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https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/876130480474738688 I'd be fine with it
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Jun 17, 2017 18:44
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Niwrad posted:They just seem incredibly valuable. Unprotected picks from bad teams. There's a decent chance that Lakers pick is top-5 next year and that Kings pick is top-3. And this doesn't seem like a draft with a huge gap between players on top to move up two spots. 2018 is shaping up to be frontcourt heavy, which is what the Sixers dont need if they believe in the existing core. And I have full faith in Magic blowing his load and signing Rudy Gay to lead the Lakers to the 8th worst record. And every player bar Fultz has a severe weakness that could derail his career
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Jun 17, 2017 18:46
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EvanTH posted:this seems premature to me I don't think they should be signing Lowry to a huge deal just to try to get the 8th seed in the East or anything. They'll probably benefit from another year or two of mid-to-late lottery picks to flesh out the roster as their young guys learn to play together (and stay healthy, hopefully). But if they think Fultz is a star-level player, they have Embiid, Simmons and Fultz all with franchise centerpiece potential. At a certain point, you should probably get antsy to get out of the high lottery, and I think the 76ers are in a place where they can do so. Plus they'll always have the Kings 2019 pick to fall back on if one of their young players flames out!
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Jun 17, 2017 18:48
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Summer League is gonna be so loving good this year.
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Jun 17, 2017 18:49
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I'm very much hoping this sandcastle phili built on the shoreline holds up and becomes a new standard of excellence
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Jun 17, 2017 18:51
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EvanTH posted:who fathoms with a pole instead of a sounding line y'all sailors are crazy I'm never setting foot aboard your ships He's a good enough player+fit that I'm okay with a slight overpay, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a series of protections on the Lakers pick to avoid a potentially massive overpay. Like CBM said, it'll take more than some seconds to compensate for dropping from 1-3, but, at the same time, I think the talent gap between Fultz and Jackson isn't large enough to justify giving up Doncic, Bamba, or Porter Jr.
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Jun 17, 2017 19:00
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Redgrendel2001 posted:He's a good enough player+fit that I'm okay with a slight overpay, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a series of protections on the Lakers pick to avoid a potentially massive overpay. I think Fultz is leagues better than Jackson. And I dont like the fit of Bamba or Porter
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Jun 17, 2017 19:06
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I think Fultz is leagues better than Jackson. And I dont like the fit of Bamba or Porter You don't necessarily have to keep Bamba, Porter, et al. Also https://twitter.com/JoelEmbiid/status/876138789378433024
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Jun 17, 2017 19:14
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Fultz is good and if phili gets him they should be happy and so should the fans
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Jun 17, 2017 19:17
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Redgrendel2001 posted:You don't necessarily have to keep Bamba, Porter, et al. Drafting Bamba et al only to trade then later is basically whats happening already with the Lakers pick?
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Jun 17, 2017 19:20
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Metapod posted:I'm very much hoping this sandcastle phili built on the shoreline holds up and becomes a new standard of excellence You are a good man
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Jun 17, 2017 19:32
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So how do you split up minutes between Saric and Simmons? Do you run Saric off the bench as a sparkplug or can one of them slide to SF? Neither seems ideal to me.
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Jun 17, 2017 19:32
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dokmo posted:Summer League is gonna be so loving good this year. This is going to be the summer league that makes me think Brussino has become a better player than he is.
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Jun 17, 2017 19:52
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Go to summer league where you can see Glen Rice Jr. drop a billion points on the Spurs and you think the Wiz have a new starter
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Jun 17, 2017 19:54
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Ben Simmons was very fun in Summer League last year  I hope he's gonna be good.
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Jun 17, 2017 19:57
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attackmole posted:So how do you split up minutes between Saric and Simmons? Do you run Saric off the bench as a sparkplug or can one of them slide to SF? Neither seems ideal to me. There will be enough minutes for both of them. You can play them both at the F spot against teams that don't have SF who are major threats and you can even go small with no center at other times. I'd probably plan on bringing Saric off the bench, but you can easily find 30 minutes for him.
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Jun 17, 2017 19:59
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Did you guys know Darius Miles filed for chapter 7 bankruptcy. That guy made about 30m after taxes, 61m total salary. Money spends. People will take all the money you give them and not think twice. FrighteningWhyteRyce posted:Go to summer league where you can see Glen Rice Jr. drop a billion points on the Spurs and you think the Wiz have a new starter He's going to follow Tim Hardaway Jr and become a volume scorer for the Hawks
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Jun 17, 2017 19:59
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tanglewood1420 posted:Ben Simmons was very fun in Summer League last year the release on that pass is so quick it looks like a video game move
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Jun 17, 2017 20:00
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attackmole posted:So how do you split up minutes between Saric and Simmons? Do you run Saric off the bench as a sparkplug or can one of them slide to SF? Neither seems ideal to me. Saric looks like a perfect fit to be 6th man leading the bench mob.
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Jun 17, 2017 20:01
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Saric looks like a perfect fit to be 6th man leading the bench mob. I think the interchangeability is great for the Sixers, whenever Simmons is on the bench they can still run a playmaking big. I think they'll have healthy Thiago Splitter, you can start putting together lineups that look decent, they're going to be an NBA team if Embiid and Simmons are healthy. Fultz/Henderson/Covington/Simmons/Embiid, Sergio Rodriguez(if they re-sign him)/Hot Sauce-Timothe/Saric/Splitter(if they re-sign him)or Jahlil Okafor, Then you have Richaun Holmes who's solid, Jerryd Bayless if he's ever healthy, that's bad NBA team caliber. The Nets are exponentially worse, despite having the future NBA star Spencer Dinwiddie and current ALL STAR SNUB Sean Kilpatrick and signing Kentavious Caldwell Pope to a max offer sheet. If they want to be bad again, they'll let Rodriguez sign with the Rockets and Splitter return to the Spurs, be safely in the bottom 3. They still have to deal with Emeka's cousin Jahlil. But it's rough because Greg Monroe is on the market, and he rebounds and gets steals, passes really well, if you're shopping for a post up center for your bench or to be your starter if you have some rim protecting 4 and you aren't reaching for the stars. There are also a few post up bigs in the draft that can be had for a low low price. Not to minimize how good at Jahlil is at scoring, but moving him before the trade deadline probably would have gotten them a better return. I feel like Colangelo is under some league mandate to spend money in free agency, so they'll sign somebody to something Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Jun 17, 2017 20:24
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dokmo posted:Summer League is gonna be so loving good this year. What a world where Summer League is looked forward to more than the NBA finals. Suck on that KD you piece of dung.
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Jun 17, 2017 20:30
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Mr. Mambold posted:What a world where Summer League is looked forward to more than the NBA finals. Suck on that KD you piece of dung. Every June 28 teams are more excited about summer League than anything that happens in the finals, they actually have some control over what happens and benefit from good decisions.
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Jun 17, 2017 20:41
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Sergio Rodriguez was really really not good last season, TJ McConnell was better offensively and way way better defensively (not super important at PG but the difference between him and Rodriguez was night and day). I don't see any scenario where Philly resigns him and if they do then TJ will be ahead of him on the depth chart for sure, as will Bayless if he is healthy. Also I don't see why they would resign Splitter unless they like him as a veteran presence in the locker room (very possible). Holmes was very promising last year in limited minutes (.184 WS/48) so I think they are better off seeing what they have with him as the primary backup center getting 20 mpg. Okafor is on a good value rookie contract even if he is your third big playing 10-12 mpg. tanglewood1420 fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Jun 17, 2017 20:43
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tanglewood1420 posted:Sergio Rodriguez was really really not good last season, TJ McConnell was better offensively and way way better defensively (not super important at PG but the difference between him and Rodriguez was night and day). I don't see any scenario where Philly resigns him and if they do then TJ will be ahead of him on the depth chart for sure, as will Bayless if he is healthy. Yup. I doubt Sergio comes back and there's a slight possibility that they release Henderson if Bayless is healthy and TLC looks like he can play a solid 20-25 mpg.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:01
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tanglewood1420 posted:Sergio Rodriguez was really really not good last season, TJ McConnell was better offensively and way way better defensively (not super important at PG but the difference between him and Rodriguez was night and day). I don't see any scenario where Philly resigns him and if they do then TJ will be ahead of him on the depth chart for sure, as will Bayless if he is healthy. It was a recalibration season, he had to get used to playing with NBA length and athleticism, like when he was a young man on the Blazers. TJ McConnell is TJ McConnell. Sergio is going to tutor these young men and teach show how basketball should be played, like a don, he's probably the best free agent point guard this offseason, even if he's a combo guard who weighs 150 lbs. Let's go through the list, Mike Lowry, we've seen him fail in the clutch time and time again, he lets his policework get in the way of ball. Jrue Holiday, a good player, I'll admit, but he told me he hates the city of Philadelphia and he'd rather die than play there. Jeff Teague, seen as worse than Sergio Rodriguez by any unbiased observer, George Hill, He's arlight, but he told me he thinks Cameroonian people are repulsive, so he's out, Shaun Livingston? Too tall. Darren Collison? Too short. Patty Mills, the less we say about him, the better. Brandon Jennings? I love him, but his achilles is gone and it's not coming back. Bobby Brown? Now you're talking, a future franchise cornerstone, probably will get the max from the Rockets, the 76ers don't have a chance. Trey Burke? An NCAA legend who told me he considers himself the best backup pg in the league, and I think 9/10 unbiased observers would say that's absolutely true. Now we get to the cream of the crop; Sergio Rodriguez: can dribble, pass, and shoot, experienced in all sorts of offenses, has played with players from around the galaxy. He's both a star and a mentor. Pay him everything he asks for and put a playoff bonus of 4m on top.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:02
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I'm now more excited for the draft than I was for the finals. I hope Lonzo goes to the not-Lakers and his dad melts down in front of a camera.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:07
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Or the Sixers take Ball at 1.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:12
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Dejan Bimble posted:It was a recalibration season, he had to get used to playing with NBA length and athleticism, like when he was a young man on the Blazers. TJ McConnell is TJ McConnell. Sergio is going to tutor these young men and teach show how basketball should be played, like a don, he's probably the best free agent point guard this offseason, even if he's a combo guard who weighs 150 lbs. Sorry dude, I didn't realise you were his agent. Keep fighting the good fight.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:17
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Hand Row posted:Or the Sixers take Ball at 1. Ball could work just fine on the Sixers, they'd be huge and Simmons is a great complement to his style even if Embiid isn't particularly. Fultz just seems a lot less risky with the same potential though.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:18
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I hope this trade happens and we get some amazing Bucks-76ers series in a few years.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:28
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tanglewood1420 posted:Sorry dude, I didn't realise you were his agent. Keep fighting the good fight. Dejan gonna Dejan.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:35
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DeimosRising posted:Ball could work just fine on the Sixers, they'd be huge and Simmons is a great complement to his style even if Embiid isn't particularly. Fultz just seems a lot less risky with the same potential though. Yea I would take him at 3 no doubt. It would just be hilarious if they trade up and passed on Fultz for Ball.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:47
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I think I'll go to Summer League this year. Now to find someone to go with me.
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Jun 18, 2017 00:17
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I can't wait for the Bulls to once again renew their chase for the Summer League Championship. To repeat as Champions. Valentine, Cam Payne, Portis(?), Zipser, Felicio? and scrubs are set to repeat.
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Jun 18, 2017 00:20
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I think MV shows up to vegas
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