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Farchanter posted:My girlfriend restarted her phone and all of her SMS threads were gone. Is it a OnePlus?
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CLAM DOWN posted:Is it a OnePlus? It's a Droid Turbo. She's lost her patience with it and is replacing it today anyway, but she'd like to get her messages back if possible.
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Jun 16, 2017 18:47
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Farchanter posted:My girlfriend restarted her phone and all of her SMS threads were gone. Did she ever back them up? Either with something like SMS backup +, or with general system backups? If not, one key part of having any hope at recovering lost data is prevent overwrites (turn it off) until you're ready to salvage or clone. Good luck, but just install SMS backup + for the future. Periodically sends your SMS and MMS to a Gmail subfolder. Edit: was literally nothing else lost?
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Jun 16, 2017 18:51
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Try a different SMS app. Textra maybe?
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Jun 16, 2017 18:51
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sweart gliwere posted:Did she ever back them up? Either with something like SMS backup +, or with general system backups? She never backed up. She only noticed that the texts were gone, but her phone is now off.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:02
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Farchanter posted:She never backed up. She only noticed that the texts were gone, but her phone is now off. Well she could pay several hundred dollars to a data recovery place to have a shot at getting some of it back, that's about it. It could easily have been mostly overwritten in the boot process and startup though.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:10
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I had a similar thing happen once where all of my texts just vanished, never to be seen again, but that was waaaaaaaaaaaaay back on my original Moto Droid.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:23
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Is there anything that acts like MS paint? I just want to make dumb photo edits and do stuff like copy paste part of an image and overlay text. There's a ton of photo editing apps but basically I just want like snapchat functionality without all the baggage or giving my data away to some weirdo.
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Stan Taylor posted:Is there anything that acts like MS paint? I just want to make dumb photo edits and do stuff like copy paste part of an image and overlay text. There's a ton of photo editing apps but basically I just want like snapchat functionality without all the baggage or giving my data away to some weirdo. Snapspeed is Google's image editing app and does text. It's fairly robust but adds text easily enough. Markers is a very simple drawing app made by a Google employee that let's you load files and you draw on them like actual mspaint but doesn't do actual text. For both I actually use Allo. I created a group chat with myself and my GV number. Allo's built in image editing does drawing and text. Just swipe away the extra Hangouts notification when you're done. Hangounts will not give you any further notifications of images sent there since it doesn't know what to do with those. Plus things you create there can be moved around via Google Photos like anything else. e: I'm sure there's something more all in one out there someone will post though. 
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Jun 17, 2017 00:07
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It's actually snapseed. Just saying in case he looks and can't find snapspeed 
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Jun 17, 2017 00:19
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And definitely watch out for Snapespeed which is an app that extensively tracks how fast Alan Rickman walks.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:24
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Oh cool. Didn't realize Snapseed had text functionality. Guess I didn't poke around in it enough.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:27
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vyst posted:It's actually snapseed. Just saying in case he looks and can't find snapspeed I've been saying it wrong for years and never noticed. 
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Jun 17, 2017 00:29
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Why do so many apps show up as using ram when I look android settings -> "memory". I know I haven't run some of them in months, and have updated and rebooted the phone many times in between. Is there any way to prevent some apps from auto loading in the background? (aside from completely uninstalling them).
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Jun 17, 2017 07:09
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peepsalot posted:Why do so many apps show up as using ram when I look android settings -> "memory". I know I haven't run some of them in months, and have updated and rebooted the phone many times in between.
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Jun 17, 2017 07:22
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What Tunga said, if the memory is not needed for some other task then the OS will keep the app in memory. The issue is when badly coded apps hog RAM they don't need.
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Jun 17, 2017 08:43
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Don't computer janitor your phone.
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Jun 17, 2017 15:36
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I dunno I can see why you would want to prevent apps from running at startup and in the background, it's possible to prevent if you use xposed or a custom rom as well. It should be possible by default imo
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Jun 17, 2017 15:53
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Blue Train posted:I dunno I can see why you would want to prevent apps from running at startup and in the background, it's possible to prevent if you use xposed or a custom rom as well. It should be possible by default imo No and I hate you.
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Jun 17, 2017 16:06
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Were you mad when they changed the permission style to disallow certain permissions rather than just granting them all on install
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Jun 17, 2017 16:18
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Well if you want to prevent an app from taking up memory and you haven't used it in months.. why haven't you uninstalled it?
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Jun 17, 2017 16:19
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Blue Train posted:I dunno I can see why you would want to prevent apps from running at startup and in the background, it's possible to prevent if you use xposed or a custom rom as well. It should be possible by default imo I can see why you'd want to: you don't understand the way modern operating systems manage memory. This is ok. Lots of people don't. There's two key facts: Writing to empty ram isn't any faster than overwriting ram that has poo poo in it; you still have to write the same bits. Unused ram is wasted, doing literally no good. Put these two facts together, and the sensible thing to do is use ram that would otherwise just be empty to cache applications you're not currently running just in case you decide to run them. If another app suddenly needs that memory, it can just overwrite the cache since it knows the cached data already exists in the flash storage. It's functionally equivalent to that ram being empty. It can even move poo poo around in the cache to re-cache the evicted data, since it can do that asynchronously as you continue to use the device. This incurs no performance penalty, and in fact dramatically speeds up starting any of the cached apps. Apple OS X and non-ancient versions of Windows do something similar. Their creators just had the sense to make the software lie to the user about how much memory is in use to prevent this exact situation we're in now: users actively crippling their devices because they don't realize how much they don't know.
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Jun 17, 2017 16:27
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I'm not saying it should be possible because of memory management, it should be possible because it's been shown that apps objectively can phone home in the bg for no reason
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Jun 17, 2017 16:34
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I also think you should be able to deny internet access as a permission without having to install a third party app to do it
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Jun 17, 2017 16:36
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Blue Train posted:I also think you should be able to deny internet access as a permission without having to install a third party app to do it If you don't trust an app to have any network access, you should not install it at all.
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Jun 17, 2017 16:44
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I would agree but there have been multiple cases of apps in the play store being malware so it is actually Google that I can not trust
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Jun 17, 2017 16:48
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Also that same argument could be made against granular permission control, which I think we all agree is good
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Jun 17, 2017 16:50
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Blue Train posted:I'm not saying it should be possible because of memory management, it should be possible because it's been shown that apps objectively can phone home in the bg for no reason (Obviously OS components are a different matter and therefore a preinstalled app could be run by OS code if your phone is made by a lovely OEM.)
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Jun 17, 2017 17:08
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You know apps can start on boot right
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Jun 17, 2017 17:18
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Tunga posted:Because the OS understands memory management better than you do. What actual problem is this causing?
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Jun 17, 2017 18:35
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peepsalot posted:The actual problem is that I can't switch between a game and a browser without it having to completely reload the game. As soon as the browser loads a page, I'm out of RAM and it unloads the game. Sounds like the game is shittily programmed
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Jun 17, 2017 18:44
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That or the phone is lovely E: or the website is just bad like the verge
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Jun 17, 2017 18:48
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Blue Train posted:That or the phone is lovely
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Jun 17, 2017 18:52
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Blue Train posted:You know apps can start on boot right
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Jun 17, 2017 20:23
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peepsalot posted:The phone is a 5X, which claims to have 1.8GB in the memory settings. The game uses about 250MB of that. Also its not that I'm losing game progress, I'm just tired of watching the loading screen after a quick task switch. My 5X also frequently closes apps when switching between them, I guess 2GB is just not a lot of RAM in 2017. 
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Jun 17, 2017 21:26
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Incessant Excess posted:My 5X also frequently closes apps when switching between them, I guess 2GB is just not a lot of RAM in 2017.
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Jun 17, 2017 22:31
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peepsalot posted:The phone is a 5X, which claims to have 1.8GB in the memory settings. The game uses about 250MB of that. Also its not that I'm losing game progress, I'm just tired of watching the loading screen after a quick task switch. That's more likely the game than the phone. peepsalot posted:I wonder how much updates have bloated android over the years. LIke how much more RAM the base OS uses compared to when the 5X was originally released. Feels like planned obsolescence via software RAM bloat. Memory bloat is a good thing in an OS. It allows important things to be kept in memory so they don't have to be reloaded. Android has gotten significantly faster over the years with optimization updates, not the other way around. The planned obsolescence with Android is just that phones don't get updates. Or they bootloop, in the case of yours.
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Jun 17, 2017 23:24
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But wouldn't that force it to page to its hard drive when RAM runs out, rig..... oh, wait.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:46
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I think android uses zram in place of swap and for the same general reason but I'm not 100% on it
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Is there a battery widget that gives a realistic estimate of how much time you have left that isn't just assuming you're not going to touch your phone until the battery drains?
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