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Unormal
Nov 16, 2004

Mod sass? This evening?! But the cakes aren't ready! THE CAKES!
Fun Shoe

Weedle posted:

Since you're here, have you considered adding some kind of cloud save support to Sproggiwood for iOS? All of my progress is on my phone but I would love to play it on my iPad as well. Even just some kind of Dropbox upload would be great.

Yeah, it's much requested, I got cloud saves working in a recent patch on Steam, so it's a matter of finding the time to port the tech to iOS. I'm fighting for hours in the day atm.

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Zeerust
May 1, 2008

They must have guessed, once or twice - guessed and refused to believe - that everything, always, collectively, had been moving toward that purified shape latent in the sky, that shape of no surprise, no second chance, no return.

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

Lua's kind of a weird language, but it's not awful, and definitely being able to tweak things and then see those things changed in-game is great for motivation and for understanding how stuff works.

Are you thinking about ToME 2 or the TOME that's on Steam? Definitely don't look at ToME 2's code, it's a horrible Frankenstein-shoggoth thing.

Oh, no, yeah, I meant TOME4. I've goofed around extremely briefly with Python and C# when I took a look at Unity a while back, but being able to see and get my hands into the meat of a game that actually exists instead of trying to build something from scratch feels like it might make more sense.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Unormal posted:

I'm fighting for hours in the day atm.
Sproggiwood Switch port must have you really busy :eyepop:

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Ok so I've been playing Streets of Rogue lately and

the Scientist is the most fun I have had with this game and I have a lot of loving fun with this game

rage poison is so goddamn hilarious

ExiledTinkerer
Nov 4, 2009
Yeah, MidBoss dev is just venting while working---I don't even flinch at the likes of this anymore since it is virtually guaranteed to happen with any commercial Roguelike dev trying to put out a comprehensive effort in the wake of Dredmor(Hell, they went through much of the same!) and thread the various needles of folks out to dump on whatever they do via impossible standards whereas they'd have probably passed the game over had they not made any effort to strive at all while also tending to folks that are harsh as hell with critique out of love of the game and wanting to make an impression on their concerns such that things hopefully get that much better.

"Attempts at improved U/I/options/etc? In 2017? How Dare You!"

You can pick up on notes of this in the Roguelike Radio ep, not about "get gud casual" so much as Behold My Bold Cat Herding Machinations!(Please bear with me as I get mauled by cats while the kinks gets worked out~)

General Emergency
Apr 2, 2009

Can we talk?
MidBoss is well reviewed on Steam anyway and deservedly so.

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

Kobold Sex Tape posted:

ADOM keybinds: At Least It's Not Nethack

Nethack did nothing wrong :colbert:

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Rappaport posted:

Nethack did nothing wrong :colbert:
Nethack is the roguelike version of your racist grandpa whose jokes you tolerate because it was a different time back then, and he's really pretty alright most of the time, you just wish he'd stop talking so much about "the coloreds".

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

PMush Perfect posted:

Nethack is the roguelike version of your racist grandpa whose jokes you tolerate because it was a different time back then, and he's really pretty alright most of the time, you just wish he'd stop talking so much about "the coloreds".

Except in NetHack's case they'd probably be ranting about how back in their day they didn't have color.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

Except in NetHack's case they'd probably be ranting about how back in their day they didn't have color.
I like my metaphor more, because Nethack really does generate some good stories, it's just run through the filter of "oh, right, this story happened back when these kinds of things were okay to do/say". See: Cockatrice shenanigans.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

PMush Perfect posted:

I like my metaphor more, because Nethack really does generate some good stories, it's just run through the filter of "oh, right, this story happened back when these kinds of things were okay to do/say". See: Cockatrice shenanigans.

Now I'm trying to think of a game with modern design sensibilities that could allow for the types of shenanigans that NetHack does. I think you'd have to set it up as a series of micro-scenarios, each of which is crafted to exploit the edge cases of the system. So you'd have a level where the player's only weapon is a cockatrice corpse, and the level would be set up to try to trick them into stoning themselves with it.

I don't think such a thing would necessarily work well as a roguelike, but it could be a fun game. You could name it The Dev Team Thought of Everything.

madjackmcmad
May 27, 2008

Look, I'm startin' to believe some of the stuff the cult guy's been saying, it's starting to make a lot of sense.

PMush Perfect posted:

Nethack is the roguelike version of your racist grandpa whose jokes you tolerate because it was a different time back then, and he's really pretty alright most of the time, you just wish he'd stop talking so much about "the coloreds".
Mine would go "They all speak that boogedyboogedyboogedy" and wave his hands around. There wasn't any one particular race in his crosshairs, it was everyone.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Roguelike devs, take note: loot has never been more precious to me as a player as when it explodes in my face because I didn't reach it in time.

megane
Jun 20, 2008



StrixNebulosa posted:

Roguelike devs, take note: loot has never been more precious to me as a player as when it explodes in my face because I didn't reach it in time.

Nuke Throne does this the best, I think. Pickups, including XP, time out, so you have to charge forward to get them instead of plinking away from safety. Cursed ammo pickups are better than normal ones, but don't last as long and literally explode when they do. That explosion can kill you. Yes, I have died to trying to get ammo.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

megane posted:

Nuke Throne does this the best, I think. Pickups, including XP, time out, so you have to charge forward to get them instead of plinking away from safety. Cursed ammo pickups are better than normal ones, but don't last as long and literally explode when they do. That explosion can kill you. Yes, I have died to trying to get ammo.

Roguelikes really are the best genre. :allears:

I wish I were good enough at Nuclear Throne to have that kind of experience, though. Ah well - now I can do it in Dungeonmans!

Eela6
May 25, 2007
Shredded Hen
Nethack is a bad game but a hell of an experience. I can't recommend it in good conscience now, but I've had more fun with nethack than dozens of 'better' games.

^^Strix - just keep playing. You'll get there.

Nuclear Throne is so good. Only a crippling injury stopped me from playing that game daily.

Floodkiller
May 31, 2011

Eela6 posted:

Nethack is a bad game but a hell of an experience. I can't recommend it in good conscience now, but I've had more fun with nethack than dozens of 'better' games.

^^Strix - just keep playing. You'll get there.

Nuclear Throne is so good. Only a crippling injury stopped me from playing that game daily.

Bad games can still have an amazing experience, they just lack replayability after the experience runs stale.

Anticheese
Feb 13, 2008

$60,000,000 sexbot
:rodimus:

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

Now I'm trying to think of a game with modern design sensibilities that could allow for the types of shenanigans that NetHack does. I think you'd have to set it up as a series of micro-scenarios, each of which is crafted to exploit the edge cases of the system. So you'd have a level where the player's only weapon is a cockatrice corpse, and the level would be set up to try to trick them into stoning themselves with it.

I don't think such a thing would necessarily work well as a roguelike, but it could be a fun game. You could name it The Dev Team Thought of Everything.

Space Station 13 is pretty much this. There's over a decade's worth of interlocking parts made by countless devs that, when put together in a chaotic environment, create amazing stories.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Anticheese posted:

Space Station 13 is pretty much this. There's over a decade's worth of interlocking parts made by countless devs that, when put together in a chaotic environment, create amazing stories.

It also allows for DMs to step in and use their god-powers to create off-the-cuff interesting scenarios, like the classic Doom Peel.

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
Death Road to Canada had another major update adding ~incremental progression~ system! And featuring special characters such as

notCloud!
notSamedi!
notGodzilla!
from top to tip, that's a Bort!

And the best bit of the patch notes:

New Traits posted:

- Anime Fan: Has an overpowered unbreakable True Japanese Steel Katana. Warning: Do NOT hit max morale. Do NOT look at anime. Do NOT interact with the anime truck.

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

i met the anime club.

hito
Feb 13, 2012

Thank you, kids. By giving us this lift you're giving a lift to every law-abiding citizen in the world.
Have any Dream Quest nerds figured out how the heck you win with Priest? I've won with the other basic classes but Priest just seems sorta bad at everything. They seem like maybe you're supposed to spec them into defense spellcasters who use things like poison / shields, but that archetype seems bad because there are just too many enemies you need to burst down quickly. Maybe this is just me being generally bad at spells talking, though - my only Wizard win was basically going pure electricity thindeck which seems like the most brainless way to use spells.

Pollyzoid
Nov 2, 2010

GRUUAGH you say?
Siralim 2 for Android is free this weekend on Google Play, go get it!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thylacinestudios.siralim2

Pollyzoid fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Jun 17, 2017

Woebin
Feb 6, 2006

Roobanguy posted:

i met the anime club.

Please tell me it's the KC Green one.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
we need more anime roguelikes so gearhead is less lonely

Kobold Sex Tape
Feb 17, 2011

Snooze Cruise posted:

we need more anime roguelikes so gearhead is less lonely

elona

e: animeband :twisted:

Unormal
Nov 16, 2004

Mod sass? This evening?! But the cakes aren't ready! THE CAKES!
Fun Shoe
c@oboybeeb@p

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
Neethack

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

Woebin posted:

Please tell me it's the KC Green one.

:hai:

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post

Well I didn't mention it because it was the obivous exa-


What hell is this

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
Little Witch @emia

Kobold Sex Tape
Feb 17, 2011

Snooze Cruise posted:

What hell is this

"All of the classes and races from Angband (and most of the monsters) have been changed. For example, races include DBZ Saiyajins and Androids, Moogles from the Final Fantasy series, and 'Hententmons' (a combination of hentai tentacle beasts and Pokémon). Classes include your typical adventuring classes, as well as off-the-wall classes like Students, Cosplayers and Sentai Heroes (Power Rangers-style Japanese superheroes)."




hhhhententmons

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
Well that is Gastly

spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer

Killer-of-Lawyers
Apr 22, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
I guess gotta catchem all does describe my porn folder, at least....

Benly
Aug 2, 2011

20% of the time, it works every time.
I remember Hengband being way better than animeband, although I don't know if it's still being maintained. It was a ZAngband-derived variant made by a Japanese dude and slightly shakily translated, with piles of anime and video game crap loaded in. It also had piles of new mechanics and absolutely awful game balance, but in the fun "everything is exploding" kind of way.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
PosChengband (goddamn these variant names get ridiculous) is descended from Chengband which I think is descended from Hengband which came from ZAngband which came from Angband. And PosChengband is still actively developed. I don't know how anime it is though.

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


if you've never played angband you owe it to yourself to do it

much like nethack it's a relic of a different time but unlike nethack it's not abandoned, so you do get a more modern experience in some ways

it's diablo 2 hardcore in ascii more or less

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TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
Tooting my own horn, but for those that can't be arsed to play it, I did LPs of Angband and ToME 2. The ToME 2 run is pretty twinkish and more focused on seeing the sights (including a visit to the Void, the bonus postgame dungeon), while the Angband LPs are just straight-up dungeon diving.

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