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A nice 4 hour nap after the race and I'm feeling human again. Man what s great race that was
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quote:The pole-sitting No. 7 Toyota of Kobayashi retired in the 10th hour with clutch failure, in what Vasselon said was triggered by a bizarre pit lane incident. http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/vasselon-frustrated-with-toyotas-missed-opportunity/
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Jun 18, 2017 19:00
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it was me I was the fake marshal
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Jun 18, 2017 19:44
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https://streamable.com/kvdca I tohught he would be dressed up as a marshal but no it's literally a driver in his full driving regalia lmao
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Jun 18, 2017 20:23
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That crash for corvette  But holy poo poo, ACO somehow got BOP right this year.
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Jun 18, 2017 20:24
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They should ditch the LMPs and just get even more manufacturers in GT.
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Jun 18, 2017 20:28
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julian assflange posted:They should ditch the LMPs and just get even more manufacturers in GT.
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Jun 18, 2017 20:29
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Make the hybrid stuff optional.
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Jun 18, 2017 20:42
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Wirth1000 posted:Make the hybrid stuff optional. Why
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Jun 18, 2017 20:45
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I wonder if any new manufacturers will arrive in LMP1 after the new regs were announced. Nissan said they will defo return. I'd love it if Ferrari participated again.
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julian assflange posted:I wonder if any new manufacturers will arrive in LMP1 after the new regs were announced. Nissan said they will defo return. I'd love it if Ferrari participated again. Aren't there a whole bunch of new privateer entries joining, too?
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gret posted:http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/vasselon-frustrated-with-toyotas-missed-opportunity/ uh wtf, why i hope the fia find out which driver it was and bar him from competing
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wicka posted:Aren't there a whole bunch of new privateer entries joining, too? Kolles, Dallara and Ginetta signed up for LMP1 next season. A few LMP2 teams are looking at it since the rule change iirc
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Jun 18, 2017 21:02
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Wonder who will provide engines
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Jun 18, 2017 21:15
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julian assflange posted:They should ditch the LMPs and just get even more manufacturers in GT. I've been saying this for twelve loving years.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:38
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I figure that would just lead to GTs becoming quasi-prototypes like in the 90s FIA-GT years. The Ford GT's already halfway there.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I figure that would just lead to GTs becoming quasi-prototypes like in the 90s FIA-GT years. The Ford GT's already halfway there. They're all already halfway there. The diffusers on the Aston look ridiculous and like they belong on a JDM time attack car. It's funny cause I remember Richards talking about it a while back saying how great it was cause he didn't need to do any car development and BOP would just take care of everything, kinda looks like that turned out to be wrong.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I figure that would just lead to GTs becoming quasi-prototypes like in the 90s FIA-GT years. The Ford GT's already halfway there. I see nothing wrong with this.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:04
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Wirth1000 posted:https://streamable.com/kvdca this might be the greatest thing ever
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Jun 18, 2017 22:08
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Norns posted:I see nothing wrong with this. Yeah but isn't the appeal of GT that they at least sort of look like road cars? I think you kinda lose that when "GT" cars end up looking like this. 
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Jun 18, 2017 22:08
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I think you'll find that homologation is The One True Path
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Jun 18, 2017 22:09
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Looking sexy as gently caress isn't a negative.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:09
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I think the GT1 homologation rules at some point were one road car (which you didn't have to actually sell), with enough cargo space to hold a briefcase. Toyota successfully argued that you could hold a briefcase in the fuel tank.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:10
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Yeah but isn't the appeal of GT that they at least sort of look like road cars? I think you kinda lose that when "GT" cars end up looking like this. Unless they state in the rules that the road car also has to look like that which makes it a loving win-win.
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Im a big autistic nerd and am making a spreadsheet of every car entered in Le Mans in recent years. Weird trivia! In 2000 three different teams entered the same chassis (A Raynard Motorsport 2KQ-LM, pictured below) with three completely different engines.  In the more powerful LMP900 class, Mopar Team Oreca raced two cars powered by a 6 liter Mopar V8, Johansson-Matthews Racing brought one car with a Judd 4 liter V10 and in the less powerful LMP675 class, the Racing Organisation Course team raced with two cars powered by a volkswagen 2.0 liter turbo 4!
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I think the GT1 homologation rules at some point were one road car (which you didn't have to actually sell), with enough cargo space to hold a briefcase. Toyota successfully argued that you could hold a briefcase in the fuel tank. yeah, homologation requires that the sanctioning body hold firm to certain rules, and it's a fairly easy way to dictate what level of performance you want balls out protos? make it like 5 cars somewhat tamer but still fast? make it 50 similar speed but allowing privateers easier access? make it 100 etc etc
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Jun 18, 2017 22:15
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I don't think it's necessarily productive but we're already at the point where LMP1s are referred to as sports cars instead of "thinly veiled open wheelers with closed cockpits" like they should be. Moving to GTE would if anything be more rational, I doubt it would happen without scrapping bop though.
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hell having a GT division with no bop would probably be pretty badass, tbh
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Group A died because of the evolution rule, where the number of models in the range of cars in production went from like 2,500 to something like 100. On the other hand, it gave us some insane homologation specials like the Skyline GTR, the various Lancer Evos, and the Sierra Cosworth.
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I'm pretty sure there's almost zero appetite from manufacturers to return to homologation. Scrapping BOP would be cool but it would also cause almost all the manufacturers to drop out as well. I don't think there's any easy solution to the current problems and it's why we're stuck with this LMP structure.
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I'm 30 minutes into Mad Max Fury Road for the first time and I already know this is literally what Sports Car Racing and the 24 Hours of Le Mans needs to become.
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Jun 18, 2017 22:24
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There's an entire class for people who want to pretend their car is related to the vehicle racing so please stop trying to ruin the cutting edge race cars out there, thanks in advance
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Proud Christian Mom posted:There's an entire class for people who want to pretend their car is related to the vehicle racing so please stop trying to ruin the cutting edge race cars out their, thanks in advance Also, this.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Yeah but isn't the appeal of GT that they at least sort of look like road cars? I think you kinda lose that when "GT" cars end up looking like this. I put so much into Gran Turismo 2 to get this car as a kid
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I think GTE and GT3 are in a good spot, along with GT4. Homologation special rules are way too exploitable (though it did give us Group B road cars), and I like the rules for GTE. Though it'd be interesting to see some hybrids in GTE.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:There's an entire class for people who want to pretend their car is related to the vehicle racing so please stop trying to ruin the cutting edge race cars out there, thanks in advance Yeah thanks Buemi.
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Wirth1000 posted:https://streamable.com/kvdca Omg this is amazing.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Yeah but isn't the appeal of GT that they at least sort of look like road cars? I think you kinda lose that when "GT" cars end up looking like this. It technically is a road car.
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The most bullshit/badass move ever was Dauer building a road going version of the 962 so they could still keep racing at LeMans with it.
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